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Old March 8th, 2012, 02:49 PM   #1041
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As noted, neither Brookfield, nor any other developer, can compete with Related on pricing. Unlike any other developer, Related seeks to merely break even on its office project and seeks no profit whatsoever.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2012/03...r-builder.html

The Last Master Builder
Stephen Ross is putting his billions, and his legacy, on the line to fix Manhattan's West Side-
and prove that private developers can still profitably transform the urban landscape.

Morgan Brennan
03.07.12


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Staring across Manhattan’s last untamed strip, the rows of sleek silver commuter trains sliding along the island’s only active rail yard, the Related Companies’ Stephen Ross points to the future. There, flanking the wildly successful High Line elevated park, is where the 56-story South Tower will go. And over there, on the other side of 33rd Street, where massive cranes bisect the sky, will be the new subway entrance.....If he can pull this off, Hudson Yards will become the most significant private development project in Manhattan since John D. Rockefeller Jr. spent $250 million (more than $3 billion in today’s terms) to create the 22-acre Rockefeller Center in the 1930s, expanding and recentering America’s largest and densest city.

In the 1980s the Metropolitan Transit Authority carved out train yards but also had the foresight to construct them in a way that would one day allow for platforms and buildings over the open-air tracks.....Before all the buildings can join Manhattan’s skyline, Tishman Construction, the master builder for the project, will stretch 17 acres’ worth of roughly 6-foot-thick steel-and-concrete platforms over the train yards--without disrupting service for more than 300,000 New Jersey and Long Island commuters a day. It will cost an estimated $800 million just to cover the eastern section of the project area.

Compounding that challenge: 1 World Trade Center, the 105-floor megatower rising at Ground Zero 3 miles to the south, which will open next year. Sixty percent leased, 1 WTC still has more than 1 million square feet empty, about the same amount that remains unfilled in the first of Related’s two high-rise towers. Ross is countering with an unheard-of deal for New York’s commercial tenants: the option to either lease or buy their space--at cost. In other words, Related and Oxford will not turn a profit on the office space but rather will use their tenants as de facto lenders, selling their commitments to cover the upfront costs of platform and building construction. Coach, the *luxury-handbag maker, has been the first to commit, buying 15 stories of the 56-story southern tower. “We will make our money in residential and retail,” says Ross. “We don’t need to make our money in office space.The glass-covered, LEED-certified, high-tech new buildings planned for the Yards represent a minute supply of streamlined, more cost-efficient office space. New York City has exponentially more office space than any other city in the U.S. Yet in Manhattan, where most of that Class A office building stock lies, more than 65% of it is 50 years or older. And only a fraction of that remaining 35% has been built within the past 10 years since light-filled glass walls, energy-cutting technology and wide-open work spaces gained popularity.

Ross says that his team is negotiating with tenants who could assume up to 22 million square feet in aggregate, though that will take some master salesmanship. Hearing that the window of opportunity to snag a prospective tenant is closing, I watch as Ross tells Cross to visit the company’s president immediately--despite the fact that a meeting has not been formally arranged and that it is Cross’ birthday.
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Old March 12th, 2012, 10:39 PM   #1042
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New 800 ft tower?

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The team at Kohn Pedersen Fox is already hard at work on its design for a pair of towers at Hudson Yards, with Coach set to move into the first one in 2015. Developer Related wants the site's first residential building to be done around the same time, and Related's just chosen the architects at Diller Scofidio + Renfro for the project. The Journal has the deets on the building: it will be around 800 feet tall and have 700 units. DS+R, which has never built a skyscraper, would work with the Rockwell Group on the design. The DS+R-Rockwell team is also working on an arts center to the east of the tower, and Elizabeth Diller tells the Journal they're "very conscious of the adjacency to the High Line," so until renderings are available, we can imagine what that means for the building's design.

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Old March 12th, 2012, 10:42 PM   #1043
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Nice to see they're going to build the office and residential towers at the same time. Going to be lots of cranes in that corner of Manhattan.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 05:30 AM   #1044
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I love the oval shape of the planned hotel pictured above.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 09:18 AM   #1045
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The building to the left reminds me of Trump Chicago.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 12:56 PM   #1046
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Old March 13th, 2012, 10:44 PM   #1047
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The building to the left reminds me of Trump Chicago.
Just wanted to wrote exactly the same
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Old March 14th, 2012, 02:57 AM   #1048
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HuffPost NY had this article about the High Line park designs at the Hudson Yards project and it includes a few renderings.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...l?ref=new-york

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Old March 14th, 2012, 11:58 PM   #1049
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wow. that is really cool.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 03:11 AM   #1050
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Hmm.. In the second and last picture, the building in the top left, that's part of the Hudson Yards? There was an old small brick building on that spot that was across the street from the main yards complex, it was demolished a couple months ago. Last time I visited the yards I wondered what's gonna be there in the near future...
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Old March 15th, 2012, 03:44 PM   #1051
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The building you're referring to is not part of the Related's Hudson Yard development, and the building that used to be there has been gone for years. It's called 360 10th Ave, and was owned by Extell but the site was foreclosed on in 2009. Extell was planning on building a 774 foot, 236 meter, 61 story mixed use building designed by Steven Holl on the site. The design was pretty mediocre so nothing was lost.

But the site is still zoned for about 650,000 sf feet of development, and the lot is very small, so something tall will eventually rise there, but we probably won't see any movement there until Related's Hudson Yards project across the street really starts to get moving and the neighborhood as a whole starts to turn around.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 12:26 AM   #1052
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Old March 16th, 2012, 07:03 AM   #1053
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Update!
Today at 3 I noticed a large white crane above 32 street. I walk over and see dozens of workers over the prep hole of the Hudson Yards. The gate to the yards was still open and I see a large truck leaving the site I took quick shots of the truck and crane. Then I walk over to the hole and notice that it is much larger as before with an excavator and workers digging in to the back side. Also, the site with the Coach building proposal is also very busy. My phone is not cooperating with my computer right now but I will surely have pictures up by tomorrow afternoon.
Edit: Also, there is work being done at the Brookfield site. According to SSP and others, there is foundation work being done.
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Nice, thanks for your update, let's see the pics.
Besides, at skyscraperpage in the maps section of NYC, the Hudson Yards ER 2 is shown as the highest tower of the city, and it's 800 meters tall.
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Today at 3 I noticed ...the site with the Coach building proposal is also very busy. My phone is not cooperating with my computer right now but I will surely have pictures up by tomorrow afternoon.
Edit: Also, there is work being done at the Brookfield site. According to SSP and others, there is foundation work being done.
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Look at skyscraperpage in the database of NYC. First Hudson Yards ER 2.
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Related updated its brochure, and the Coach tower is now over 1,000 feet tall.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 09:42 PM   #1058
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Related updated its brochure, and the Coach tower is now over 1,000 feet tall.
Yup, now 1,017 feet/54 floors. Second tower is 1,292 ft/65 floors.

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New promotional materials for the Hudson Yards project, passed along by a tipster, outline the transformation of of the train yards site between 10th and 12th avenues into a completely new neighborhood, or high-end superblock shopping/condo/office enclave. The prospectus is titled Hudson Yards: New York's Next Great Neighborhood, although the renderings convey a sort of Corbusier-superblock grandiosity that flies in the face of the word "neighborhood." Plan diagrams show the first building slated for completion is the south office tower in the Eastern Rail Yard (2015). There are no scheduled dates of completion for the proposed primarily residential Western Rail Yard's development, but there's no disputing that the entire project could be transformative to the West Side.

One feature we enjoyed in the plans: a Cultural Shed exhibition space in the Eastern Rail Yards. It sounds like a place where one can store one's over-sized sculptures next to the lawn care equipment. Case in point: one can see Jeffrey Koons' proposed long-stalled hanging locomotive piece suspended from the ceiling of the Cultural Shed in the background of a rendering. We don't care what type of engineering miracles that will require

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