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Old October 25th, 2012, 11:04 PM   #1541
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A 1,337 foot tower, together with an 876 foot tower, and another 1,000+ foot tower on Phase 1 alone is hardly grounds for dismay.
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Old October 25th, 2012, 11:09 PM   #1542
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A 1,337 foot tower, together with an 876 foot tower, and another 1,000+ foot tower on Phase 1 alone is hardly grounds for dismay.
Just ignore that, RW. I am more then pleased to see the first phase developing the way it does. :-)
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Old October 26th, 2012, 12:11 AM   #1543
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So the north tower has had a height increase into the 400's and people are complaining/raging? wow...

but this is great news! the Coach tower is taller than i expected from when i first saw the redesigns! can't wait for these to take off
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Old October 26th, 2012, 12:12 AM   #1544
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http://observer.com/2012/10/hudson-y...ervation-deck/

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Hudson Yards Will Be Taller Than the Empire State Building, Including a Higher Observation Deck
By Matt Chaban 4:43pm



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Party on the skyline. (Visualhouse/Related)
Earlier this week, the Related Companies announced it had found backers to begin building the first tower of its Hudson Yards project (at the same time that it is trying to get a break from the MTA for payments on the entire 16-acre complex). Should the project get off the ground, it will have a long way to go.

Sure, in terms of time, as it will takes years, if not decades, for the entire 12 million square feet of office, residential, retail and cultural space to be built. But there is also a long way to go in terms of distance. As the design team puts the finishing touches on the first phase of the project, it turns out the other office tower on the site, which has yet to find an anchor tenant or an announced start date, will become the second or third tallest building in the city when it is completed, surpassing the Empire State Building.
At 1,300 feet, the tallest of the Hudson Yards towers (designed by KPF) will fall just short of 1 World Trade Center (sans antenna, er, spire) and the even taller 432 Park, CIM and Harry Macklowe’s new luxury tower at the corner of 57th Street and Park Avenue, which reaches a spindly 1,397 feet into the skyline.

But this is not the only place where Hudson Yards will surpass the Empire State Building. It will also boast both a observation areas closer to heaven than at the Empire State Building, both indoors and out.

Perhaps you noticed an unusual shard jutting out from the side of the tallest tower in the latest set of renderings, first revealed a few weeks ago in New York magazine? That is an open-air observation deck located at 1,100 feet. That puts it 50 feet above the Empire State Building’s famous outdoor terrace, that iconic movie set and marriage proposal destination.

And above Hudson Yard’s outdoor observation space will be a veritable playland of attractions reaching to the top of the tower, and by extension beyond the Empire State Building’s topmost observation room, at 1,250 feet, the place where zeppelins were once meant to dock.

“It’s more akin to the Rainbow Room to be honest,” Related spokeswoman Joanna Rose explained. “We have a ballroom, restaurant and bars above the observation deck that offer panoramic views. And yes, we are looking at locating some of those above the 1250 mark.”

They are just going after all the landmarks—not just the Empire State Building but Rockefeller Center, too. And it will be hard to compete, since as previously reported, that master of hospitality Danny Meyer will be running the show way up in the clouds.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #1545
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In that new brochure they updated the heights and I think only the render of the first page, the rest are clearly the older renders, kind of odd. And the observation platform is not seen or mentioned. Will still be made? at least in the only render that is updated, it is not shown since it would be at the opposite corner that the shown in that render. edit, in the article posted above says it will still be there.

BTW the height figures must be the total height, they never give the height of a building as the top floor, but the tip of the building.

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Old October 26th, 2012, 12:40 AM   #1546
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No matter how it looks, the observation platform will be one of the best places to be in the city and besides, it isn't that big to be a disruption in the building's design. Outdoor observatories always had the unique feeling of the winds blowing around you
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Old October 26th, 2012, 01:08 AM   #1547
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Great development. The 407m tower is beautiful. Congrats to NY, soon to be a jungle of supertalls.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 01:19 AM   #1548
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The tower has 67 office floors, the top floor is 73, look again at the diagram

either way NYC RULES!
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Old October 26th, 2012, 02:11 AM   #1549
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This whole ******* development is a dream come true. It's really starting to hit me how huge and important it is. It's the private sector response to the WTC.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 02:17 AM   #1550
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I swear, this project just keeps getting better and better every day (unlike its rival downtown, not mentioning any names ).
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Old October 26th, 2012, 02:18 AM   #1551
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I swear, this project just keeps getting better and better every day (unlike its rival downtown, not mentioning any names ).
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Old October 26th, 2012, 02:23 AM   #1552
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The design got worse for this building, the base got better for the WTC!
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Old October 26th, 2012, 02:35 AM   #1553
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Old October 26th, 2012, 02:39 AM   #1554
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Observation deck!
yup, forget about 1 WTC and the NY Wheel, this one will have a full panoramic view of Manhattan from it's location
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Old October 26th, 2012, 02:44 AM   #1555
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Observation deck is on level 73 which is the top floor, could you change the thread title? It is visible in the diagram on the page before.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 03:05 AM   #1556
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Observation deck is on level 73 which is the top floor, could you change the thread title? It is visible in the diagram on the page before.
For whatever reason, Related only counts the floors with office space -- not observation decks, etc.

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Old October 26th, 2012, 03:21 AM   #1557
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The design got worse for this building, the base got better for the WTC!
How did you know I was referring to the WTC?

I, along with many others, beg to differ concerning changes to the two complexes. For HY, the main building has gotten taller, now it has an outdoor observatory, and the residential towers will be bigger and the designs are so much better that the originals. 1WTC had its mast stripped, 3WTC was scaled down, 2WTC is on hold, and a lack of funding is causing massive delays on all 4 towers. I prefer the new base cladding on 1WTC slightly over the old, but I am not a fan on the squared off base. It looks foreign and out of place on the tower.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 03:36 AM   #1558
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For whatever reason, Related only counts the floors with office space -- not observation decks, etc.

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Yes but that doesn't change the fact that the top floor is the 73rd and that the building has 73 floors. So, title should be changed to 73 floors
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Old October 26th, 2012, 03:45 AM   #1559
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I don't disagree. I was simply following the developer's terminology.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 04:58 AM   #1560
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Don't believe this ever got posted here.



Disappointed they changed the direction of the crowns. Looked like an explosion before with focus on the center(like 2 wtc), now it's more awkward.
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