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Old December 1st, 2012, 11:48 PM   #1721
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Visualize, all in this one shot, at least two 900+ ft towers in front of the Railyards for Brookfield's project, a 900+ footer for One Hudson Yards, two more supertalls to the right of the North Tower (the Girasole and Sherwood Equties' tower) and another supertall (15 Penn Plaza) behind MSG.

The West Side is a hotbed for development.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 11:57 PM   #1722
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prep start. As the name says, they start to dig, braking the flat ground surface.
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 12:06 AM   #1723
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Construction starts in earnest on this project ASAP. Coach and the other tenants need to be in by md-2015.
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 12:32 AM   #1724
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Am I the only one who thinks those tilted skyscrapers don't fit NYC at all? I think they look out of place. But it sounds like everyone in this thread thinks they're perfect.
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 12:37 AM   #1725
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You're not the only one. I too don't like their design very much, not because they are tilted but because their bases are so wide when viewed from 2 of the 4 directions
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 12:40 AM   #1726
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Am I the only one who thinks those tilted skyscrapers don't fit NYC at all? I think they look out of place. But it sounds like everyone in this thread thinks they're perfect.
NYC has 400 years of architecture. Styles change. No American city is as varied as NY.

This incredibly underutilized area will have a bigger "downtown" than any city in America or Europe in 20 years other than Chicago, and yet, it's a sub-sub-market!


Imagine this area covered with supertalls!

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Old December 2nd, 2012, 12:48 AM   #1727
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Visualize, all in this one shot, at least two 900+ ft towers in front of the Railyards for Brookfield's project, a 900+ footer for One Hudson Yards, two more supertalls to the right of the North Tower (the Girasole and Sherwood Equties' tower) and another supertall (15 Penn Plaza) behind MSG.

The West Side is a hotbed for development.
Don't forget the future potential of a redevelopment of MSG.
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 12:51 AM   #1728
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NYC has 400 years of architecture. Styles change. No American city is as varied as NT.
I agree. I think when people say that something is out of place 50% of the time it's because they are scared to trade familiarity with something new. Its out of place because its not what they're used too. Not that that's a bad thing, it's just that sometimes people need to be more accepting of new things and try to imagine a different New York. That being said. I think tapering is fine. I agree with Kano though, it does look very fat
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 12:52 AM   #1729
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Am I the only one who thinks those tilted skyscrapers don't fit NYC at all? I think they look out of place. But it sounds like everyone in this thread thinks they're perfect.
I really don't see how they look out of place. They look "21st century" NY to me. An updated version of the typical 20th c. corporate box with the addition of the more pointy tops reminiscent of the art-deco scrapers of old. Now, if they were organic twisting feminine towers, they may look odd in the masculine skyline of NY, but I'd still welcome them all the same. NY really is an amalgamation of styles, and long may it be so.

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Old December 2nd, 2012, 01:06 AM   #1730
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Someone should really make a render of what that view would look like if all of those buildings are implemented into the skyline.
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 01:16 AM   #1731
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I agree. I think when people say that something is out of place 50% of the time it's because they are scared to trade familiarity with something new. Its out of place because its not what they're used too. Not that that's a bad thing, it's just that sometimes people need to be more accepting of new things and try to imagine a different New York. That being said. I think tapering is fine. I agree with Kano though, it does look very fat
Completely agree. New York would be nowhere if architects didn't take chances or try to change common perceptions. For example, would the ESB have been built 80 years ago if no architect believed such a massive building were feasible??
Now that New York is undergoing a revival, architects must make bold decisions in order to stand out. Many on here think that 432 park's dimensions will make it look hideous or that hudson yards' looks fat but I am sure in 10 years those two projects will be staples in the skyline with as much recognition and almost as much praise even ESB.
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 02:23 AM   #1732
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Construction starts in earnest on this project ASAP. Coach and the other tenants need to be in by md-2015.
If I remember,Q2 2013?
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 03:42 AM   #1733
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If I remember,Q2 2013?
This Tuesday. Check last page.
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One more question, iirc the Coach Tower can begin construction even without the rebuilding of the rail tracks that is to be finished in 2015 but the North Tower can't. Is this true or is my memory playing tricks on me?
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 02:33 PM   #1735
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One more question, iirc the Coach Tower can begin construction even without the rebuilding of the rail tracks that is to be finished in 2015 but the North Tower can't. Is this true or is my memory playing tricks on me?
That's correct.
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 02:43 PM   #1736
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Am I the only one who thinks those tilted skyscrapers don't fit NYC at all? I think they look out of place. But it sounds like everyone in this thread thinks they're perfect.
If you see these historic drawings, drawn after the new zoning laws early 20th century, I don't see why it shouldn't fit NYC:



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Old December 2nd, 2012, 02:44 PM   #1737
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That's correct.
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 05:44 PM   #1738
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Hardhats to begin construction of Hudson Yards project on Tuesday

After nearly a decade in the making, construction workers will finally break ground Tuesday on the Hudson Yards project, the city’s largest privately-funded development project since Rockefeller Center, sources said.
A groundbreaking ceremony will be held Tuesday morning at the 26-acre site, expected to be anchored by a tower that will soar higher than the Empire State Building.

The first shovel in the ground comes more than two years after the Metropolitan Transportation Authority signed an agreement with the Related Companies and Oxford Properties group to develop the site, bounded by 30th and 33rd Sts., 10th Ave. and the Hudson River.
The early groundbreaking means the MTA can start collecting monthly lease payments of $230,000 before the final closing on the 99-year lease. Developers agreed to pay the MTA close to $1 billion to lease the site for 99 years.

The six-tower development will be built atop two $750 million platforms that will serve as foundations over the existing rail yards. The site will house a public school, 5,000 apartments with affordable housing, restaurants and movie theatres, a five-star hotel, and 14 acres of public space. An extension of the 7 train will be accessible from the center of the project.

MTA on Wednesday agreed to amend its deal with the developers to allow $50 million worth of site improvements to begin before a final closing. The MTA gets to convert $17 million held in escrow to cash. The $230,000 monthly lease payments increases by $200,000 a month if there is no closing by Feb. 1, said MTA Real Estate Director Jeffrey Rosen. He said the developers are committed to closing by June 1.

The fashion company Coach has agreed to purchase 750,000 square-feet in the first office building, designed by New York-based architecture firm Kohn Pederson Fox. Rent for the space has not been released.

Mayor Bloomberg earlier unsuccessfully sought to have a football stadium built there for the New York Jets, which would have also been used for the 2012 Olympics had the city won the bid.

The first phase of Hudson Yards, which includes the entire eastern portion, is expected to be complete by 2017.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...#ixzz2DuTQV2OD
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 11:28 PM   #1739
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can't wait to follow this project
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Old December 3rd, 2012, 11:49 PM   #1740
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Does this mean we get to move this to the main forum tomorrow?
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