Hellenic Agora - Improvements & Ideas

[krainer]

Reaper I think you are one of the very few users (if not the only one) that miss Kon. Give MetroGardian a break, he hadn't even had the time to implement his duties and improve the Greek forum and you are already bashing him. Jeez!

[Reaper-strain]

I was one of the first to fight with Kon due to the fact that when i started a thread on Polikatikies, he went ballistic saying that those who said they were ugly were not taking into account those living there ect ect. The thread was ruined. However, I never feared him doing the right thing when it came to being civil, arguments and defending Greece from Fyrom nationals which he never let us down. He was not politically correct and that was the key to his success and the reason there were so few banning's in our forum, but everyone respected everyone despite arguments. Yes I miss him. I thought the whole idea of the election was someone to help him out, not for him to leave. The idea of one member incharge of everything to do with Greece is ridiculous and many agreed.

[krainer]

Kon decided to leave and thus we needed a new mod. And believe me we didn't need an addition to the prior mod, we needed a replacement, now should we need an assistant mod for MetroGardian I'm sure he will be the first to ask for it. I just think it's too soon to judge him like that. Metro got picked out of a democratic procedure and as far as I can tell he is not here to abuse his position, he is currently asking for everyone's opinion as to how we want the forum to become. He already answered to your concerns about provocative comments on national issues.

[Reaper-strain]

That is all very nice but it wasn't my question. You have made your judgment on him, I have made mine. Why don't we let time now be the judge. I am sure he does not need you to wipe his nose when he is questioned, he seems more than intelligent enough.

As for your statement on me being the only one to defend Kon, I suggest you read the thread where Kon left and many suggested he stay, but that he needed help. We all have opinions Alemo, but which are right and which our wrong are not for you or anyone to judge, especially now concerning Kon.

[krainer]

That is all very nice but it wasn't my question
Um I wasn't really answering to any question

I know that other users asked Kon not to leave, I just said that you are one of the few or maybe the only one who acutally *miss* him.
Second I'm not "wipining" anyone's nose. I know that MetroGardian is intelligent, I wouldn't vote for him otherwise and I'm not speaking on behalf of him I'm just stating my personal opinion and I'm supporting him as a mod which is my right.

We all have opinions Alemo
Exactly...

but which are right and which our wrong are not for you or anyone to judge
I just stated my personal opinion just like you did. Just because my opinion is different than yours it doesn't mean that I "judged". I have the right to disagree and consider something wrong, if that means judging (cause this word could mean more than one things) then excuse me but you don't have the right to tell me that I shouldn't use my free judgment. This isn't 1970 and the mod is no longer Kon.

especially now concerning Kon
Especially (??) about Kon? It's OK to judge anyone else but Kon? And then I'm the one who wipes noses? Jeez, now I know why you liked Kon, you are much more alike than you think.

Anyways, we're getting totally off topic here, I'll leave it there, you got your opinions I got mine, bottom line is that the Greek forum needed a change and now it is getting healthier.

[Reaper-strain]

Ok firstly relax.

Now look above. Nicky asked the question about Fyrom, not me. So this:

That is all very nice but it wasn't my question
Um I wasn't really answering to any question

kinda scares me./ The rest of your post I simply do not understand. Perhaps post it in Greek if that is your first language and I will get back to you.

[krainer]

Originally Posted by Alemo

Anyways, we're getting totally off topic here, I'll leave it there, you got your opinions I got mine, bottom line is that the Greek forum needed a change and now it is getting healthier.

Nuf said

[dewrob]

hunting for witches...

[savas]

Hellenic Agora - Improvements & Suggestions

[MetroGuardian]

Backbone structure of the Forum.

"Hellenic Architecture Agora" hosts 1137 Threads, with 26218 posts.


[Threads - Posts] for each subforum:

• Πανεθνικά [81 - 2771]
• Αθήνα [127 - 4975]
• Θεσσαλονίκη [50 - 1510]
• Κύπρος [35 - 833]
• ==
• Φωτογραφία [9 - 117]
• ==
• ~Διάφορα?~ [835 - 16129]
  

Top10 in views for each subforum amass:

• Πανεθνικά (104.279)
• Αθήνα (176.918)
• Θεσσαλονίκη (70.179)
• Κύπρος (32.429)
• ==
• Φωτογραφία (5.336)
• ==
• ~Διάφορα?~ (178.903)

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The forum is severely unbalanced.

• The section Photography will be eliminated, nobody seems to care much.
• I was surfing through the numerous threads of the main page and there is a huge amount of topics that don't belong there. This page will also be eliminated and a small amount of administrative topics and highlights will reside here.
• Most of the topics that belong here will be moved to a "Discussions" section (name yet to be found).
• There will also be a Transportation & Infrastructure section.
• Athens and
• Thessaloniki will remain as is.
• The last section will be "Rest of Greece"
• Cyprus will certainly have its own section but in a separate position (like Photography now) for increased visibility.

[SouthernEuropean]

will we put subcategories in Rest of Greece as well?I'd like that..Thessaly..Epirus..etc

[NickyF]

Originally Posted by SouthernEuropean

will we put subcategories in Rest of Greece as well?I'd like that..Thessaly..Epirus..etc

I think we need to add sub-categories......to trully reflect the diversity of Greece......i.e Macedonia, Epirus, Cyclades etc.

[SouthernEuropean]

yeah exactly..we can't stuff all the Greek diversity in just one sub forum..

[Ares_K]

How about a geographical poll like this one here that works like a map showing in which part of the world everyone in Hellenic Agora lives.

[NickyF]

And I almost forgot....we also need a sub-category to deal with issues that relate to the mighty.... Hellenic Diaspora. We can't forget this important section of Hellenism....they need to be represented on this forum.

[gm2263]

Remarks:

First, it seems that the majority of the "stray" threads of the Hellenic Agora belong to a general discussions section like "Kafeneion" or something similar. As for the rest, others belong to the Athens or Thessaloniki or the "Nationwide" - "Panethnikon" section, or something like,that.

We should aim for a structure that will allow further expansion and subdivision without having to move many threads from one section to the other in case the number of threads increases dramatically .

Also, the photography section has to somehow be preserved in essence, probably renamed to "landscapes" in order to reflect on all images that are related to the beautiful Greek countryside, or threads which are not strictly related to arhitecture and constructions, 9including of course,general photography.

Also, there are two threads that used to be sticky ones but have ben unstickified for an unknown reason, the one relating to new projects and the other related to constructions in progress. I believe that they should be merged and the merged thread to be stickyfied. I am not sure whether Athens, Tessaloniki or any other regional subthread should have their own constructions subforums.

Finally, a sports/ stadiums section may be organised...

...and that's not all, wait for more.

[MetroGuardian]

Thank you all for your suggestions. I am waiting ideas on this from everybody. Remember thought that we are talking about an organization scheme. So, it hardly drives any demand for threads.

In order to preserve the photography thread, there should exist a substantial number of posts that belong there, or an important new flow of posts. Hosting 9 threads - each one with hardly an important number of views, thus interest -, almost all of which suit easily to other categories, I don't find any meaning in keeping such a section. It doesn't help anyone to navigate or find something easier.

southereuropean,
I wouldn't like to see more subsections for each individual regions. Even Thessaloniki, the second most important city after Athens, hardly has many or diverse threads, despite the important efforts of its members There can be dedicated threads inside the "Rest of the Greece" (or a more suitable name), for each region, archiving all the relative posts to a city/region.

NickyF,
Several of our members belong to the Greek Diaspora and dedicate a substantial effort to the forum. However, I don't find enough diaspora-specific threads to start a new section especially for them.

gm2263
The same counts for a section specific for stadiums. I am not sure if there are enough threads. The only possibility would be to create a special section including sports news and venues. But to be honest with you, I think it doesn't suit the purpose of the forum. There are other places, dedicated and specialized that everybody can visit and discuss. The idea is not just to produce a large number of new members/posts/threads, but also stick to the objective of the forum. We are good at it, let's keep doing it.
- Also on a last note. The large number of threads in the "several" category is due to the omission to move them to their suitable section, ~half of them don't belong to discussions.


The region - roll call, is on the works, inspired exactly from the thread you have suggested, Ares.


I am in favor of organic growth and not artificial. If there are many people that concentrate in a specific category of posts that have substantial differences from others and need to be organized in an individual category for usability reasons I will create it. Otherwise we stick to the current scheme each time, until this occurs, or seems to start occurring and needs a small push - justifiable be the needs of the forum.


As for the sticky threads, there is an ongoing effort to renovate them and the current status is not permanent.

[MetroGuardian]

I am rethinking of the suggestion to add specialized sections for the regions of Greece, but not as sub-subections of "Rest of the Greece" but brand new ones, to help with navigation. What do you think of this Scheme:

• Athens - Attica
• Thessaloniki - Northern Greece (Macedonia,Thrace)
• Central Greece (Thessaly, Sterea)
• Western Greece (Peloponnese, Epirus, Ionian Islands)
• Aegean (Creta, Aegean Islands)

And a special section WorldWideGreece for everything, including diaspora, general compilations about Greece, photograpy.

Update, the Infrastructure section to: Infrastructure - Transportation - Stadiums.

Cyprus, moves to its own division, like I said.

General Discussions, we still miss a sexy name.


(Keep adding proposals, to see how we can merge them. You know what they say about committee decisions though ...)

[Ares_K]

Cafe Απέραντο γαλάζιο...οπως η ταινια, αλλα στ'αγγλικά δε μου βγαινει το ιδιο ομορφο.... ή Eternal blue, timeless blue.. κατι τετοιο. Endless Blue Cafe..? και στην περιγραφη απο κατω "καφε απέραντο γαλάζιο".
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[LEAFS FANATIC]

Originally Posted by Ares_K

Cafe Απέραντο γαλάζιο...οπως η ταινια, αλλα στ'αγγλικά δε μου βγαινει το ιδιο ομορφο.... ή Eternal blue, timeless blue.. κατι τετοιο. Endless Blue Cafe..? και στην περιγραφη απο κατω "καφε απέραντο γαλάζιο".
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What about "Infinite Blue Cafe"?