Hellenic Agora - Improvements & Ideas

[Reaper-strain]

I know this may sound a bit out there, but I would love a section for art. Encompassed in this would be street art, conceptual art and sculpture. I certainly have a lot to post there!

[MetroGuardian]

The forum has to get out of quarantine this week.


Personal Attacks
Not allowed in general. The use of harsh words describing a fellow member is not allowed and will be punished without warning.

Attacks on Views
Can be as strong as possible. The use of harsh words is allowed. The use of excessive swearing is disallowed except in elegant cases, according to my personal taste.

Political Discussions
Allowed in general inside the "Discussions" Section. Outside the section, politics are allowed as far as they are relevant and important to the topic. The promotion or bashing of political parties is not allowed. Pure ideologies can be discussed and argued only inside the "Discussions" Section. The use of harsh language is prohibited for this kind of discussions. Special attention will be taken in case they occur.

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Inflammatory Threads
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Advices & Suggestions
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Additionally, all the above have no power to overrule the general guidelines of Skyscrapercity in case an administrator intervenes.
Rules and Advices 2.0

[MetroGuardian]

This is my final proposal for the structure of the forum. I will submit it by tomorrow. Make your last suggestions.


Greece

• Athens
  Metropolitan Athens
  
• Thessaloniki & Northern Greece
  Thessaloniki, Macedonia & Thrace
  
• Central Greece
  Thessaly & Sterea Hellas
  
• Western Greece
  Peloponnese, Ionian Islands & Epirus
  
• Aegean Islands
  Creta & Aegean Islands

Cyprus

• Republic of Cyprus

My Agora

• WorldWide Greeks
  International and Nationwide Themes, Greek Diaspora, Arts & Spectacles
  
• Infrastructure
  Transportation, Stadiums, Business
  
• Grand Bleu - Club
  General Discussions, Politics, History & Science.

Notes: If there is significant interest in special categories, like Art or Photography I will initialize new sections.

The title of the movie is French: Le Grand Bleu.
In US it was distributed as: The Big Blue
In Greece is was renamed to: Απέραντο Γαλάζιο.

[krainer]

Originally Posted by MetroGardian

The forum has to get out of quarantine this week.


Personal Attacks
Not allowed in general. The use of harsh words describing a fellow member is not allowed and will be punished without warning.

Attacks on Views
Can be as strong as possible. The use of harsh words is allowed. The use of excessive swearing is disallowed except in elegant cases, according to my personal taste.

Political Discussions
Allowed in general inside the "Discussions" Section. Outside the section, politics are allowed as far as they are relevant and important to the topic. The promotion or bashing of political parties is not allowed. Pure ideologies can be discussed and argued only inside the "Discussions" Section. The use of harsh language is prohibited for this kind of discussions. Special attention will be taken in case they occur.

Trolls and Spammers
They are not welcome anywhere. Immediate action will be taken, no questions asked, no excuses. This lies on my personal judgment.

Inflammatory Threads
Allowed in "Discussions" Section. The use of harsh words either for people or opinions is severely prohibited.

Advices & Suggestions
No advices. Rule your words and your mind.


Additionally, all the above have no power to overrule the general guidelines of Skyscrapercity in case an administrator intervenes.
Rules and Advices 2.0

Alrighty, everything sounds good and reasonable except
The use of excessive swearing is disallowed except in elegant cases, according to my personal taste.
I'll be honest, that part I didn't like it so much, in fact I don't totally understand it.
Hehe I guess you meant it in a different way than it sounds?

[MetroGuardian]

Ευτυχώς που υπάρχει και κάποιος που διαβάζει τα όσα γράφω.
Εννοείται πώς αυτή και άλλη μια πρόταση δεν θα συμπεριληφθούν στο τελικό κείμενο.

Θα παρακαλούσα και τα υπόλοιπα μέλη να συνεισφέρουν στη συζήτηση. Μέχρι τώρα μιλούν οι συνήθεις υπόπτοι. Αν σας καλύπτει η άποψη κάποιου άλλου μέλους πλήρως, γράψτε συμφωνώ. Αυτό θα χρησιμοποιηθεί για να διαμορφωθεί η σχετική βαρύτητα ως προς τις διαφορετικές προτάσεις και θα βοηθήσετε και εμένα να αποφασίσω. Αν δεν σας ενδιαφέρει το θέμα, μην περιμένετε να εισακουστούν όποια παράπονα ή προτάσεις σας για τους κανονισμούς εκ των υστέρων.

[Ares_K]

Deleted..

I thought it over again about the categories proposed under Greece and changed my mind. So personally i agree.

[SouthernEuropean]

MetroGardian thanks for finally including subcategories about Greece..also..is Grand Bleu the final name of our skybar? and what exactly is WorldWide Greeks?is it like someone said about posting art,talking about important Greek personalities in a more formal way..etc?

[pilotos]

Πολύ ωραία η νέα δομή, συμφωνώ απόλυτα στην προτεινόμενη μορφή, το μόνο που δεν μου αρέσει είναι το όνομα του χώρου γενικών συζητήσεων, άλλα δεν έχω να αντιπροτείνω κάτι προς το παρόν δυστυχώς.

[MetroGuardian]

Ναι κι εμένα δεν μου αρέσει πολύ για να είμαι ειλικρινής. Αν και η ιδέα με το απέραντο γαλάζιο ήταν γενικά καλή

Deep Blue Cafe?
Infinite Blue Bar?

Επιπλέον το WorldWide Greeks, πιθανότατα θα γίνει WorldWide & NationWide
Με παρουσιάσεις ξένων τόπων και έργων, θέματα Ελληνικού ενδιαφέροντος - υπερτοπικά (παραλίες στην Ελλάδα, μοντέρνα κτίρια στην Ελλάδα, τέχνη και θεάματα κτλ). Επιπλέον παρουσιάσεις θεμάτων της Ελληνικής ομογένειας.

Επειδή θέλω να τελειώσουμε με τη δομή για να αρχίσει το συμμάζεμα του forum, αν κάποιος έχει κάποια εξαιρετική ιδέα για το General Discussions section, ας τη ρίξει στο τραπέζι!

Θα άνοιγα ένα poll, αλλά δεν έχουμε καν αξιόλογα nominations.
Το Hellenic Agora είναι reserved για το όνομα του forum, καθώς από όσους απάντησαν η πλειοψηφία το προτιμά από Greek Forum. Αλλιώς θα ήταν ο τέλειος υποψήφιος.

Κάτι άλλο σε αρχαιοελληνικό μπορεί να είναι Κοινό Ελλήνων.
ή Symposium.

Όποια βοήθεια είναι καλοδεχούμενη.

[Cerises]

Originally Posted by LEAFS FANATIC

What about "Infinite Blue Cafe"?

In Greek it sounds quite nice and the English version isn't bad either.

Originally Posted by MetroGardian

Ναι κι εμένα δεν μου αρέσει πολύ για να είμαι ειλικρινής. Αν και η ιδέα με το απέραντο γαλάζιο ήταν γενικά καλή

Deep Blue Cafe?
Infinite Blue Bar?


Όποια βοήθεια είναι καλοδεχούμενη.

Those are good sugestions too! Some other one's.... "Cafe Mythos", "Arete cafe", "Cafe Logos" or maybe even something with the word
"8alassa" in it? These are just some suggestions and they are in Greek but English is more then welcomed too and I hope that even more ideas will be presented before a final decision is made!

And regarding the overall restructuring of the Hellenic Agora it is coming together very well! Great job to MetroGuardian and everyone involved!

[agnwstos]

Originally Posted by MetroGardian

This is my final proposal for the structure of the forum. I will submit it by tomorrow. Make your last suggestions.


Greece

• Athens
  Metropolitan Athens
  
• Thessaloniki & Northern Greece
  Thessaloniki, Macedonia & Thrace
  
• Central Greece
  Thessaly & Sterea Hellas
  
• Western Greece
  Peloponnese, Ionian Islands & Epirus
  
• Aegean Islands
  Creta & Aegean Islands

Cyprus

• Republic of Cyprus

My Agora

• WorldWide Greeks
  International and Nationwide Themes, Greek Diaspora, Arts & Spectacles
  
• Infrastructure
  Transportation, Stadiums, Business
  
• Grand Bleu - Club
  General Discussions, Politics, History & Science.

Αυτή η κατηγοριοποίηση πιστεύω είναι πολύ ωραία και συμφωνώ με αυτήν.

[NickyF]

Here is my proposal, following on from agnostos suggestions:-

Greece

Athens-City,Metropolitan Area and Attica

Thessaloniki-CityMetropolitan Area and Region

Northern Greece-Macedonia & Thrace

Central Greece-Thessaly & Sterea Hellas

Western Greece-Ionian Islands & Epirus

Southern Greece- The Peloponese

Aegean Islands-Creta & Aegean Islands

Cyprus

My Agora

WorldWide Greeks-International and Nationwide Themes, Greek Diaspora, The Arts and Contemporary Culture

Infrastructure- Transportation, Stadiums, Business and Cultural facilities

Aegean Odyssey -General Discussions, Politics, History & Science.

[MetroGuardian]

Thank you NikcyF (but what were exactly agnwstos suggestions? - I think he liked the structure as is). Still, I find that splitting Greece into 5 sections is already too much and Ι don't want to see it even thinner - some areas will have virtually nothing inside.

However, I like the subtitle "Arts & Contemporary Culture"
Also Odyssey sounds good, but why Aegean?

This "general discussions title" is so trivial, yet so difficult to converge to a satisfying solution:

• Debate
• Round Table
  -
• Dialectics
• Greek Odyssey
• Logos & Mythos (Cherry hybrid)
• Hellenic Odyssey (NickyF hybrid)
  -
• Infinite Blue Cafe (Leafs, Ares)
• Deep Blue Bar
• Pelagos

I kind of like Symposium, because Greeks always eat and drink and celebrate when they talk from ancient times till this day. Is there anyone in support?

[SouthernEuropean]

i am-i like Symposium...a lot actually.

btw about Hellenic Agora....i quite like the name but still i have strong doubts whether we should change the name to something easier for other or actually add something like Greece or..i dont know...hmm

anyway Symposium is nice.

[Reaper-strain]

I say we call it Club Tropicana after one of our most famous clubs/bars

[krainer]

Does it really have to be a club, bar or a cafe? And BTW Club Tropicana?

[Ares_K]

Symposium sounds very nice to me.

A question though. A subject like traditional architecture across Greece, which of those categories does it fall under?

[neorion]

I like Symposium also, quite suitable imho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symposium


Great that World-Wide Greeks is included as well, but perhaps the Arts & Spectacles section should be separted from that.

Good proposals and initiatives for the H.A. at last!!

[pilotos]

Symposium, that sounds great!

[GrigorisSokratis]

Originally Posted by MetroGardian

This is my final proposal for the structure of the forum. I will submit it by tomorrow. Make your last suggestions.


Greece

• Athens
  Metropolitan Athens
  
• Thessaloniki & Northern Greece
  Thessaloniki, Macedonia & Thrace
  
• Central Greece
  Thessaly & Sterea Hellas
  
• Western Greece
  Peloponnese, Ionian Islands & Epirus
  
• Aegean Islands
  Creta & Aegean Islands

Cyprus

• Republic of Cyprus

My Agora

• WorldWide Greeks
  International and Nationwide Themes, Greek Diaspora, Arts & Spectacles
  
• Infrastructure
  Transportation, Stadiums, Business
  
• Grand Bleu - Club
  General Discussions, Politics, History & Science.

Notes: If there is significant interest in special categories, like Art or Photography I will initialize new sections.

The title of the movie is French: Le Grand Bleu.
In US it was distributed as: The Big Blue
In Greece is was renamed to: Απέραντο Γαλάζιο.

Since this is a national sub-forum and not state one, I would prefer not having Greece and Cyprus separated. Furthermore, Thessaloniki is far too big with many issues regarding only Thessaloniki (we're talking about a 1.1 million city). So my suggestion is this:

Regions:

Athens (as simple as that, no metropolitan, or such things, nothing easier than calling the city by its name and understanding instantly we're talking about Athens. All right, maybe an Athens - Attika (or Attiki) sub-division would make too)
Thessaloniki
Macedonia and Thrace
Central Greece - Thessaly & Sterea Ellada
Western Greece - Peloponnese, Ionian Islands & Epirus
Aegean Islands & Crete
Cyprus

General themes:

Infraestructure works and architecture
Economy issues
Symposium (This name is great IMO, great choice Metro!)

What do you think guys?