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Old March 2nd, 2012, 11:23 AM   #2141
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I dont mind the distance between goals and the crowd,i actually prefer it!!
Why?

I don't understand why a lot of new stadiums have more than the regulated 7,5 meters? How much is it at Narodowy? 15? 20 meters? Is it so you can play rugby and American football or what is the reason for placing people much, much further from the action than necessary?
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 12:23 PM   #2143
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Why?

I don't understand why a lot of new stadiums have more than the regulated 7,5 meters? How much is it at Narodowy? 15? 20 meters? Is it so you can play rugby and American football or what is the reason for placing people much, much further from the action than necessary?
I hope to god they thought ahead and did it so Zuzel track can fit!!!
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 12:37 PM   #2144
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Rugby is not very popular in Poland and no rugby match in the world could fill even half of Narodowy! Furthermore, in Gdynia exists already a small stadium just for that sport...
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 12:50 PM   #2145
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New warsaw stadium is definetely a great stadium with great exterior and interior, but i think they did a better job in romania with the national stadium.
Yes, but the same problem in Bucharest as well, with those ugly grey walls. I hope they will put something on them, at least for the EL final.
I don't understand why they don't put commercials on them, like in many similar stadiums in Germany?

Two good examples are: the Veltins Arena, or the Commerzbank Arena. Putting commercials there has more advantages. They are more visible (being a bigger surface, than the boards along the pitch), and they give a bit of color to the stadium.

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Old March 2nd, 2012, 01:38 PM   #2146
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New warsaw stadium is definetely a great stadium with great exterior and interior, but i think they did a better job in romania with the national stadium.
Why? Bucharest stadium isn't in the league of Warsaw one. IMO Bucharest is low-budget stadium. That's nothing wrong, don't offence. Simply, Stadionul Naţional doesn't have:
- underground parking
- 25,000 m^2 of commercial
- exterior

Also details are the clue. On every step we can easily see why Warsaw stadium costed 2,5 times more than Bucharest one. Look at seats:

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The stadium is a beauty,there is no doubt about that,the ONLY gripe i have personally is the grey 'rails' running around the middle of the stadium,could they not colour them or something?reminds of bad times,communsim.
Wait to end of march. Oficial sponsor of Stadion Narodowy will be announced. Analysing all moves in this area, I guess it will be Coca-Cola. Then this places will be fitted with advertisement of this brand. During EC there will be Euro2012 identity bands.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 02:31 PM   #2147
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:37 PM   #2151
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Why? Bucharest stadium isn't in the league of Warsaw one. IMO Bucharest is low-budget stadium. That's nothing wrong, don't offence. Simply, Stadionul Naţional doesn't have:
- underground parking
Not true. It has underground parking.

Anyway...let's not start this discussion again. (it's sooooo boring, guys...)
Narodowy was built for a European Championship. Not only the costs show this, but also the quality of the materials used. Compare it to the Olympic stadium in Kiev, not to stadiums, which had half budgets, and were never meant to be more than what they are.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:43 PM   #2152
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In my opinion the best stadium on Euro-2012 is Donbass Arena.

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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:49 PM   #2153
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this is not Donbass arena nor Bucharest stadium thread. Please make this picture smaller or delete it. Now wait for other forumers to write:

in my opinion the best stadium is [insert your favourite, or nationality]

no one cares your opinion

-or mods-could you clen this thread from spam?

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Old March 2nd, 2012, 05:04 PM   #2154
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Why? Bucharest stadium isn't in the league of Warsaw one. IMO Bucharest is low-budget stadium. That's nothing wrong, don't offence. Simply, Stadionul Naţional doesn't have:
- underground parking
- 25,000 m^2 of commercial
- exterior
It's not low cost, it's just lower cost, despite as I said, many essential things are missing face to Warsaw.

- Facade to protect spectators from last rows from cold winds and other weather discomforts
- No steel bars at the top tier makes it quite rudimentary since it's exactly as steep as Warsaw ( maybe even exactly the same amount of rows ) and so, as dangerous to slip and eventually end up killing a few more on your way down, not to mention that the access in the stands is difficult because only just a few gates are open, many come late and struggle to get to their seats and even find out it's taken because someone messed the row/sector/seat and it can become a bit chaotic if the match began.
- You have escalators if I'm not mistaking, no such thing at National Arena, only normal stairs, I'm not crying for myself, but if you stay on the last row you have to walk a lot of stairs, an old person may suffer plenty.
- The seats...are OK, at least if there's no fat person next to you don't don't have a problem, their comfy enough. But the problem is a lot of peasant come and start taking pictures sitting on the chairs, messing them up or use them as intermediary stairs while in Warsaw, they being retractable, leave extra space.

The colors might be more spectacular on National Arena from a distance ( though I hate the different contrasts and don't look so good from up close ) but Warsaw is a 10/10 stadium compared to Bucharest, of course, you had more money and not to mention...support from the city such as metro station, parking lot and the area looks great and easy to access from the center.
I somehow consider it the best for the Euro, face to Donbass Arena it's less oval, so here Poland wins over the Ukrainian stadiums.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 05:12 PM   #2155
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What about those lights ??? will be used on football match ??? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/stadionf.jpg/
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 05:48 PM   #2156
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Bucharest is a great stadium with a vibrant interior but realistically you can't compare it to a premium multi-function stadium like the Stadion Narodowy which has a lot of commercial space, interiors, retractable roof, exteriors, underground parking and top quality fit out. I mean look at the plans, Stadion Narodowy is an expansive complex beyond just the pitch and seats.

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Old March 2nd, 2012, 06:03 PM   #2157
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Well, National Arena has the same retractable bluff *cough* roof, and seriously, when I was a kid, I hoped those soft-tops on cabrio's will be history .

The problem with National Arena is that, it's a Romanian icon of selfishness towards the ordinary citizen. Everything that is built for the ordinary guy is supposed to be limited, while only the smart-ass class is allowed to enjoy luxury. They didn't take a cent from the budget of the couches and the boxes, they also didn't restrict anything for that part of the stadium, only when it comes to "the rest" things are difficult and there's not enough dough for it, why shouldn't I drive the ******* Mercedes instead of 20 others having a Dacia/Renault?
It's called: simply I don't give a shit about your seat or if you have back problems because some chilly wind is blowing on your back, after the game, go home by foot because if it finishes after 22:45 there's no chance you catch a bus despite being various bus terminals near the stadium.
Parking lot? No need, there's enough space in front of the stadium for 100 Bentley's if needed. Escalators? **** off, to get to the boxes you can take an elevator. Commercial space? Yes, a lot, unused most of them because they sell Coke and Chips anyway and you need to stay in 2 lines cause first you need to buy the chip and they are too many but only like 2 bathrooms for a whole stand with 5.000 people.

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Old March 2nd, 2012, 06:11 PM   #2158
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Well, National Arena has the same retractable bluff *cough* roof, and seriously, when I was a kid, I hoped those soft-tops on cabrio's will be history .
Does it? Wow, well that's impressive then for Romania. They are somewhat similar stadiums in capacity and interior shape but for me Warsaw's is like the tricked out version with all the optional extra's purchased from the dealer.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 06:50 PM   #2159
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Bucharest is a great stadium with a vibrant interior but realistically you can't compare it to a premium multi-function stadium like the Stadion Narodowy which has a lot of commercial space, interiors, retractable roof, exteriors, underground parking and top quality fit out. I mean look at the plans, Stadion Narodowy is an expansive complex beyond just the pitch and seats.
i agree with you !

We can't compare such well done jewels to a single football bucharest one.

Warsaw is like Lille one-> designed to meet all events standards
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