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Swede · December 6th, 2007, 09:38 AM

A bit of a cynic about these things? I think we all are after all those unbuilt towers. But this one... Thay're already demolishing the buildings where KistaMässan will be, but right where the hotel will be there wasn't anything before, thus APP and not DEMO

Parzival · December 6th, 2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneda

I totally forgot about this project. I thougth that it would never amount to anything, but really great to see that it still lives, and know more than ever. Maybe the Kista area can finally become the 'skyline area', that we all talked about all those years ago, before the Baltic states took over.

It's a shame if all nice skyscraper are built in Kista. It's an extremly unattractive location and is not even close to Stockholm inner city... uuuggghhh..

Swede · December 6th, 2007, 05:33 PM

Kista is actually in a pretty good location. Yes, 10km from the center of Stockholm (there's even a big forest in the way), but commuincations are very good - and will get better in the future (LRT and possibly commuter-rail).

Insane alex · December 6th, 2007, 05:39 PM

Well, skyscrapers in Kista won't be as visible on the skyline as much as they would if they were placed near downtown...

Swede · December 6th, 2007, 05:44 PM

True, but at least this one will be extremely visible when coming into Stockholm from the north (E20 and trains from Arlanda/Uppsala/...)

Ton-Tille · December 6th, 2007, 07:54 PM

I like it, Nice design+glass

Nightsky · December 7th, 2007, 12:51 AM

It is great with all these planned highrise in Kista! It must be the tallest Scandic hotel in the world if buiilt.

Swede · December 7th, 2007, 04:43 PM

Here's a direct link to the project's page on the City construction office (SBK)'s site http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPl...w____3804.aspx

So it is in fact NOT approved just yet. It is open for public views until 2008.01.16. You can submit your views on-line by using a form that is linked from the above page. I did, and said the only critique I had was no more wings and that it wasn't taller.

Also, here's three pics I got from a pdf on that page

Insane alex · December 7th, 2007, 04:49 PM

Looks much nicer now, i hated those wings! But it isn't approved?! That sucks!

Swede · December 7th, 2007, 04:54 PM

I wasn't too sure about them, but without them it's basically just a box.
Yeah, I thought so to. But it did seem to have gone too fast. And if it doesn't meet resistence (it shouldn't) the final go-ahead will come quarter 1 of 2008 - not that long a wait.

safta20 · December 7th, 2007, 09:58 PM

I liked the wings. Now it looks like thousands of other skyscrapers around the world. It's not a landmark that one remember after the first time you see it anymore.

sapmi · December 7th, 2007, 11:32 PM

It's kinda boring without the wings! As it looks now, anyone could have designed that scraper.

Jonte myra · December 7th, 2007, 11:43 PM

I miss the wings aswell, the only thing that made it unique

Swede · December 7th, 2007, 11:57 PM

Well, it's still by a fair margin tallest in Stockholm and not a square, but a parallelogram. Could it be more distinctive? yes. Would that be worth postponing it for like 6 months? nah, that tends to like... cancel stuff instead. :\

AW · December 8th, 2007, 11:54 AM

I actually like this one better. It looks more like a real scraper than the previous one, eventhough it's a bit plain. Anything covered in glass tends to look good no matter the shape, and with some other towers in the surroundings it will fit Kista very well IMO.

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Originally Posted by Swede

Here's a direct link to the project's page on the City construction office (SBK)'s site http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPl...w____3804.aspx
So it is in fact NOT approved just yet.

That sucks.. On the other hand, SBK hasn't even changed the status for the Klara complex yet, eventhough it won laga kraft over a month ago (iirc).

Parzival · December 8th, 2007, 01:24 PM

I think it looks awesome without the wings.

AW · December 8th, 2007, 03:10 PM

Hey, I just noticed that it ain't gonna be completely symmetric; seen from above the rectangular shape seems to have been slightly warped to give it a more sleek design. Did that make sense or have you all noticed it already?

safta20 · December 8th, 2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AW

Hey, I just noticed that it ain't gonna be completely symmetric; seen from above the rectangular shape seems to have been slightly warped to give it a more sleek design. Did that make sense or have you all noticed it already?

It's still not enough to make it special like a landmark IMO...

Insane alex · December 8th, 2007, 04:27 PM

With the new design, has the height increased 6m?

Muthai · December 8th, 2007, 05:20 PM

IMO the new design is better. I agree with that the landmark-a-meter is cold, but it reflects the scandinavian design much moore, with a slim´, minimal and light design. I like it.

I think that it's really fits with the surrounding buildings/projects.

December 6th, 2007, 09:38 AM	#21
Swede forumer #29 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: sol.III.eu.se.08 Posts: 2,490 Likes (Received): 133	A bit of a cynic about these things? I think we all are after all those unbuilt towers. But this one... Thay're already demolishing the buildings where KistaMässan will be, but right where the hotel will be there wasn't anything before, thus APP and not DEMO __________________ Forumers met so far: Huopa, Nightsky, Jo, wolkenkrabber, ThisSideofSteinway, jacksom, New Jack City, LeCom, Ellatur, Jan, Dennis, Ace, Bardamu, AtlanticaC5, Ringil, Dysfunctional, stacey, karakhal, ch1le, Hviid, staff, kjetilab, Þróndeimr, queetz, FREKI, sander, Blue Viking, nomels, Mantas, ristov, Rafal_T, khaan, Chilenofuturista, Jonte Myra, safta20, AW, Pas, Jarmo K, IceCheese, Sideshow_Bob, sk, Ingenioren, Ayreonaut, Silver Creations, Hasse78, Svartmetall

December 6th, 2007, 05:33 PM	#23
Swede forumer #29 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: sol.III.eu.se.08 Posts: 2,490 Likes (Received): 133	Kista is actually in a pretty good location. Yes, 10km from the center of Stockholm (there's even a big forest in the way), but commuincations are very good - and will get better in the future (LRT and possibly commuter-rail). __________________ Forumers met so far: Huopa, Nightsky, Jo, wolkenkrabber, ThisSideofSteinway, jacksom, New Jack City, LeCom, Ellatur, Jan, Dennis, Ace, Bardamu, AtlanticaC5, Ringil, Dysfunctional, stacey, karakhal, ch1le, Hviid, staff, kjetilab, Þróndeimr, queetz, FREKI, sander, Blue Viking, nomels, Mantas, ristov, Rafal_T, khaan, Chilenofuturista, Jonte Myra, safta20, AW, Pas, Jarmo K, IceCheese, Sideshow_Bob, sk, Ingenioren, Ayreonaut, Silver Creations, Hasse78, Svartmetall

December 6th, 2007, 05:39 PM	#24
Insane alex Stockholm rules! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Stockholm, Sweden/ Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 1,737 Likes (Received): 1	Well, skyscrapers in Kista won't be as visible on the skyline as much as they would if they were placed near downtown... __________________ Stockholm projects http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=449245 Countries i've been to: Australia, Austria, Canada, Brazil, China, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Lichtenstein, Germany, The Netherlands, Latvia, Italy, UK, USA, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hong Kong.

December 6th, 2007, 05:44 PM	#25
Swede forumer #29 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: sol.III.eu.se.08 Posts: 2,490 Likes (Received): 133	True, but at least this one will be extremely visible when coming into Stockholm from the north (E20 and trains from Arlanda/Uppsala/...) __________________ Forumers met so far: Huopa, Nightsky, Jo, wolkenkrabber, ThisSideofSteinway, jacksom, New Jack City, LeCom, Ellatur, Jan, Dennis, Ace, Bardamu, AtlanticaC5, Ringil, Dysfunctional, stacey, karakhal, ch1le, Hviid, staff, kjetilab, Þróndeimr, queetz, FREKI, sander, Blue Viking, nomels, Mantas, ristov, Rafal_T, khaan, Chilenofuturista, Jonte Myra, safta20, AW, Pas, Jarmo K, IceCheese, Sideshow_Bob, sk, Ingenioren, Ayreonaut, Silver Creations, Hasse78, Svartmetall

December 6th, 2007, 07:54 PM	#26
Ton-Tille Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Helsinki, Хельсинки Posts: 396 Likes (Received): 0	I like it, Nice design+glass __________________ Welcome to paradise, Come to the fairy lies Welcome to paradise

December 7th, 2007, 12:51 AM	#27
Nightsky Illustrator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Malmö Posts: 3,600 Likes (Received): 35	It is great with all these planned highrise in Kista! It must be the tallest Scandic hotel in the world if buiilt. __________________ Dark as the day, light as the night Website about my travels and buildings in USA and Europe -many cool pics: http://www.worldtravelimages.net All my diagram drawings - more than 700!: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?14670510 My latest drawings: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?14670500

December 7th, 2007, 04:43 PM	#28
Swede forumer #29 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: sol.III.eu.se.08 Posts: 2,490 Likes (Received): 133	Here's a direct link to the project's page on the City construction office (SBK)'s site http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPl...w____3804.aspx So it is in fact NOT approved just yet. It is open for public views until 2008.01.16. You can submit your views on-line by using a form that is linked from the above page. I did, and said the only critique I had was no more wings and that it wasn't taller. Also, here's three pics I got from a pdf on that page __________________ Forumers met so far: Huopa, Nightsky, Jo, wolkenkrabber, ThisSideofSteinway, jacksom, New Jack City, LeCom, Ellatur, Jan, Dennis, Ace, Bardamu, AtlanticaC5, Ringil, Dysfunctional, stacey, karakhal, ch1le, Hviid, staff, kjetilab, Þróndeimr, queetz, FREKI, sander, Blue Viking, nomels, Mantas, ristov, Rafal_T, khaan, Chilenofuturista, Jonte Myra, safta20, AW, Pas, Jarmo K, IceCheese, Sideshow_Bob, sk, Ingenioren, Ayreonaut, Silver Creations, Hasse78, Svartmetall

December 7th, 2007, 04:49 PM	#29
Insane alex Stockholm rules! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Stockholm, Sweden/ Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 1,737 Likes (Received): 1	Looks much nicer now, i hated those wings! But it isn't approved?! That sucks! __________________ Stockholm projects http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=449245 Countries i've been to: Australia, Austria, Canada, Brazil, China, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Lichtenstein, Germany, The Netherlands, Latvia, Italy, UK, USA, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hong Kong.

December 7th, 2007, 04:54 PM	#30
Swede forumer #29 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: sol.III.eu.se.08 Posts: 2,490 Likes (Received): 133	I wasn't too sure about them, but without them it's basically just a box. Yeah, I thought so to. But it did seem to have gone too fast. And if it doesn't meet resistence (it shouldn't) the final go-ahead will come quarter 1 of 2008 - not that long a wait. __________________ Forumers met so far: Huopa, Nightsky, Jo, wolkenkrabber, ThisSideofSteinway, jacksom, New Jack City, LeCom, Ellatur, Jan, Dennis, Ace, Bardamu, AtlanticaC5, Ringil, Dysfunctional, stacey, karakhal, ch1le, Hviid, staff, kjetilab, Þróndeimr, queetz, FREKI, sander, Blue Viking, nomels, Mantas, ristov, Rafal_T, khaan, Chilenofuturista, Jonte Myra, safta20, AW, Pas, Jarmo K, IceCheese, Sideshow_Bob, sk, Ingenioren, Ayreonaut, Silver Creations, Hasse78, Svartmetall

December 7th, 2007, 09:58 PM	#31
safta20 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 917 Likes (Received): 0	I liked the wings. Now it looks like thousands of other skyscrapers around the world. It's not a landmark that one remember after the first time you see it anymore.

December 7th, 2007, 11:32 PM	#32
sapmi BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,107 Likes (Received): 0	It's kinda boring without the wings! As it looks now, anyone could have designed that scraper.

December 7th, 2007, 11:43 PM	#33
Jonte myra Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Stockholm Posts: 130 Likes (Received): 0	I miss the wings aswell, the only thing that made it unique __________________ http://www.yimby.se/

December 7th, 2007, 11:57 PM	#34
Swede forumer #29 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: sol.III.eu.se.08 Posts: 2,490 Likes (Received): 133	Well, it's still by a fair margin tallest in Stockholm and not a square, but a parallelogram. Could it be more distinctive? yes. Would that be worth postponing it for like 6 months? nah, that tends to like... cancel stuff instead. :\ __________________ Forumers met so far: Huopa, Nightsky, Jo, wolkenkrabber, ThisSideofSteinway, jacksom, New Jack City, LeCom, Ellatur, Jan, Dennis, Ace, Bardamu, AtlanticaC5, Ringil, Dysfunctional, stacey, karakhal, ch1le, Hviid, staff, kjetilab, Þróndeimr, queetz, FREKI, sander, Blue Viking, nomels, Mantas, ristov, Rafal_T, khaan, Chilenofuturista, Jonte Myra, safta20, AW, Pas, Jarmo K, IceCheese, Sideshow_Bob, sk, Ingenioren, Ayreonaut, Silver Creations, Hasse78, Svartmetall

December 8th, 2007, 01:24 PM	#36
Parzival Babelous Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Swedax Posts: 525 Likes (Received): 0	I think it looks awesome without the wings. __________________ Visit Stockholm - The capital of earth

December 8th, 2007, 03:10 PM	#37
AW Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,043 Likes (Received): 0	Hey, I just noticed that it ain't gonna be completely symmetric; seen from above the rectangular shape seems to have been slightly warped to give it a more sleek design. Did that make sense or have you all noticed it already?

December 8th, 2007, 04:27 PM	#39
Insane alex Stockholm rules! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Stockholm, Sweden/ Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 1,737 Likes (Received): 1	With the new design, has the height increased 6m? __________________ Stockholm projects http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=449245 Countries i've been to: Australia, Austria, Canada, Brazil, China, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Lichtenstein, Germany, The Netherlands, Latvia, Italy, UK, USA, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hong Kong.

December 8th, 2007, 05:20 PM	#40
Muthai KTH-student Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stockholm/Linköping Posts: 550 Likes (Received): 1	IMO the new design is better. I agree with that the landmark-a-meter is cold, but it reflects the scandinavian design much moore, with a slim´, minimal and light design. I like it. I think that it's really fits with the surrounding buildings/projects. __________________ Linköpingsvisioner! Storstad Linköping Group!

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