Your City's masterplans

[Scarecrow]

European City of Heritage?

[paulmat]

A whole year of not being able to build anything larger than a 3 storey red brick box.

[Delirium]

un-realised post war master plan (well it wasn't that bad, but... you know...)

[wiggleyleeds]

Originally Posted by Toadboy

Princes Dock, Kings Dock, St Pauls Square, Wapping and the old warehouse district bounded by Upper Parly and st James Street mustn't be hapening then.

Yes, we've had our new squares, like millenium square, and we've had our high rise construction (currently setting the uk record of 3 +100m talls currently UC), and we've had mixed use schemes similar to princes dock, such as clarance dock.

What I meant was, for example in Leeds, there has been a very rapid transformation of the city as a whole, for example complete new office & financial quarters around wellington place and whitehall road, that is set to expand even more. There's the student expansion of the city centre, and Then there is the complete transformation of the river front, totally expanding the pereceived limits of the city centre. Its like the city has pretty much doubled in size in the last 5 years with new quarters, rather than additions within an already existing framework. To me this is a transformation.


for example all this area on whitehall road below is now an extension of the city, and didnt exist before the recent boom

[Toadboy]

That is hideous Wiggly. It looks like tat. There's plenty of good stuff there though.

I'd expect Leeds to have had an intense and rapid development phase given the bouyant economy of the past 10/15 years.

[wiggleyleeds]

Originally Posted by Toadboy

That is hideous Wiggly. It looks like tat. There's plenty of good stuff there though.

lol, yes its unattractive when compared to old victorian architecture.. but thats new builds for ya.. its standard fair and looks no diferent to other cities' new build expansion. Altho set 'schemes' do look better than standard expansion.

I'd expect Leeds to have had an intense and rapid development phase given the bouyant economy of the past 10/15 years.

but all this wasnt here just 4 years ago. Its a complete shock for people who've not been for a few years, especially when they come in on the train, its unrecogniseable.

[Toadboy]

I haven't been right in for while but I believe the old warehouse areas from the M62 (round the Royal Mail?) have been redeveloped expanding the 'city centre' and growing a downtown, is this right?

As for standard fayre and being the same as elsewhere I think that's were we go wrong sometimes. Even at bog standard housing level local materials and styles should be encouraged so you know where you are, the red bricking of English cities and suburbs has been a major let down in the latest building boom.

[Leeds No.1]

Yes, that is right. The pictures that wiggley posted are of the area around the Royal Mail site. You can see the Royal Mail building clearly in one picture; although it is completely unrecognisable. It is the building on the right in the first picture.

The key areas where the city has expanded are here, to the south, East Bank and around the IRR corridor.

[Bachy Soletanche]

Leeds University is now part of the City centre?

[Leeds No.1]

The southern part of it is most definitely City Centre. The main entrance at the Parkinson Tower is just outside the City Centre I'd say. On the fringe; not quite far out enough to be Hyde Park but not City Centre.

[kids]

Originally Posted by Leeds No.1

The southern part of it is most definitely City Centre. The main entrance at the Parkinson Tower is just outside the City Centre I'd say. On the fringe; not quite far out enough to be Hyde Park but not City Centre.

No. Just no.

[Leeds No.1]

The Parkinson Tower is 400m from the Inner Ring Road and 1.1km from Hyde Park Corner, while the southern part of the campus goes across the ring road and borders the core financial/legal sector. The most northern part of the campus is 650m from Hyde Park Corner while the southern tip is in the City Centre; 200m from The Headrow. The freecitybus runs through the campus as it loops the city centre.

[wiggleyleeds]

This foto was taken yesterday after coming out of one the leeds' uni building looking into the city centre with my mobile phone

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a 20 second walk, and I took another photo turning to my left:

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and in the same spot, looking straight on i took this:

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a further 20 second walk, past the white building above, turning to your left you are here:

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and looking straight down you see the start of the central part of the city core

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[wiggleyleeds]

then walking down this road for 3 minutes and turning round to look behind you, you can see the start of the university area where u have just walked from in the distance

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lol. thankyou for signing up with wiggley's mini tour please leave all tips in the bucket by the exit.

The blue building in the distance is part of Leeds Met, which is deffinately in leeds city centre (altho obviously not the central core of the city centre). The first photo I took was from Leeds University, which, as LeedsNo1 said, is on the edge of the city centre, and a short walk to the start of the city centre.

[Scarecrow]

God Wiggley, you must've looked a right twat, powerwalking with your camera and chcking your stopwatch every few yards.

Interesting photo tour though. Keep it up.

[Bachy Soletanche]

But I don't see what that has to do with the extention of the 'city core' into the Biochemical buildings/Lecture theatre part of the University of Leeds. Yes the Municipal building is part of the city centre, but on



It's now got the non-city centre Leeds MetroPOLYitan Universtiy and about half of the University of leeds, and well, that's simply wrong.

[Chogmook]

If Manc brought its entire Education and medical district (Oxford Rd/Upper Brook St Corridor) into the equation, the city centre would be HUGE!

[Biosonic]

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That's an interesting view



I am not a fan of the one on the left, but the right-hand one looks quite classy

[di Livio]

Originally Posted by Biosonic

I am not a fan of the one on the left, but the right-hand one looks quite classy

It's alright, but it has a nasty strip of grey plastic pannelling on the other side.


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[wiggleyleeds]

Originally Posted by Stephen Robinson

But I don't see what that has to do with the extention of the 'city core' into the Biochemical buildings/Lecture theatre part of the University of Leeds. Yes the Municipal building is part of the city centre, but on

LeedsNo1 has highlighted the city core in green in both pics. In neither of these pics are *any* part of Leeds uni, or Leeds Met within the green boundaries.

That said, both unis are very much part of the city centre, with Leeds Met being within the city centre, and Leeds uni being on its edge, a few minutes walk away, as my little picture tour showed lol.

The university quarter of Leeds city centre borders the civic quarter (LGI, millenium square, city gallery museum etc). Infact, in the picture of millenium square, you can see the city musuem, and some of the uni blocks directly behind it.

Its very hard to get a feel for what is the city centre or not unless you are actually there and have an appreciation for the surroundings. Its all very subjective, and much of it is to do with 'feel', surroundings, connectivity, urbanity, and density etc. Some places can be a few minutes walk from the city centre, but not 'feel' like its part of the city centre and therefore not usually regarded as the city centre.