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Old May 25th, 2008, 11:39 PM   #61
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Why they don't use the infrastructure of the old shuttle for a third line of CGDVal.
In 1990's two liçne were build a first between CDG1 and CDG2 and a second line was build between CDG2 A-B and CDG2 F. (The terminal didn't exist at this time.)
They already used the first for the line CDG1 - CDG of the CDG Val.
A third line, linking T2A to T2E, was initially planned, it have been abandoned in 2003.
I'm sure you know this site : http://www.metro-pole.net/reseau/lignes/cdg/val.html
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How will passenger reach T2G by public transportation? I guess CDGVAL (the new driverless metro) will not be extended for only 3M passengers. So there will be a shuttle bus from the TGV station? And there is not any pedestrian link with T2E and T2G neither on the rendering.
The distance between T2E and T2G is almost 2 km, i guess anybody would walk such a distance. There will be a shuttle bus service.
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Old May 31st, 2008, 07:50 PM   #62
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A third line, linking T2A to T2E, was initially planned, it have been abandoned in 2003.
I'm sure you know this site : http://www.metro-pole.net/reseau/lignes/cdg/val.html
There is a plan to extend CDGVAL from CDG2TGV to T2E/F by using a part of the line you mentioned. In the future it could be interesting to consider extending the CDGVAL using the whole old second line. The CDGVAL would have a "T" shape route with 3 terminals: T1, T2AB and T2G. What do you think about that?
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Old May 31st, 2008, 08:44 PM   #63
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A bird's-eye view of CDG airport from this article (in french) : http://www.lepoint.fr/actualites-soc...t/920/0/238806
Fascinating article.
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Old June 1st, 2008, 11:36 AM   #64
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There is a plan to extend CDGVAL from CDG2TGV to T2E/F by using a part of the line you mentioned. In the future it could be interesting to consider extending the CDGVAL using the whole old second line. The CDGVAL would have a "T" shape route with 3 terminals: T1, T2AB and T2G. What do you think about that?
Linking Terminal 2G with the TGV station seems to be good sense but it would be very expensive for few passengers. Anyway, if builded, this line would be independent of the first one.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 03:45 AM   #65
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wich flights are now operating from the renewed T2E?
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 01:59 PM   #66
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I found this press release :

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Paris-Charles de Gaulle: a number of Air France flights operated at the new Terminal 2E
Friday 28 March 2008

Starting from Sunday 30 March 2008, a number of Air France medium-haul and long-haul flights will start progressively to arrive at and depart from the new Terminal 2E at Paris-Charles de Gaulle Airport.

The 10 on-stand parking gates will handle over 80% of long-haul flights departing from and arriving at the parking stands at the Paris-Charles de Gaulle Terminal.

► Destinations concerned:

With effect from Sunday 30 March 2008, flights to the following Air France destinations will be operated out of Terminal 2E: Amman, Atlanta, Bamako, Bangalore, Bangkok, Beijing, Belgrade, Boston, Bucharest, Buenos Aires, Cairo, Casablanca, Chicago, Cincinnati, Conakry, Dakar, Damascus, Detroit, Guangzhou, Hanoi, Hong-Kong, Houston, Istanbul, London-Heathrow, Los Angeles, Mexico, Miami, Montreal, Moscow, Mumbai, Newark, New Delhi, New York JFK, Ouagadougou, Papeete, Philadelphia, Pointe-à-Pitre, Port-Harcourt, Rabat, Rio de Janeiro, Saint Petersburg, Salt Lake City, San Francisco, Santiago de Chile, São Paulo, Seattle, Singapore, Tehran, Tel Aviv, Toronto, Washington and Yerevan.

From Tuesday 29 April 2008, Air France flights to the following destinations will also be handled at Terminal 2E: Aberdeen, Birmingham, Bristol, Dublin, Edinburgh, Johannesburg, London City, Manchester, Newcastle, Seoul, Shannon, Southampton and Zagreb.

[1] The following SkyTeam member airlines will use the new Terminal 2E: Air France, Aeroflot, AeroMexico, Delta, China Southern, Korean Air, Northwest Airlines.
http://corporate.airfrance.com/en/ne...BbackPid%5D=10
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Old June 18th, 2008, 09:33 AM   #67
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For CDG, compared to May 2007, May 2008 has +7,2% of traffic growth (pax.).
The passengers traffic for May 2008 exceeds 5,4 M !!
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Old June 19th, 2008, 10:33 AM   #68
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New tv commercial :


And an old one (1971)

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Old June 19th, 2008, 07:32 PM   #69
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the second ad is it realy from 1971 ?

very strange because it lists at the very end of it Charles de Gaulle airport along with the 2 other Paris airports...when this one opened in 1974 only !
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Old June 19th, 2008, 09:22 PM   #70
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Perhaps it was anticipatory.
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 08:18 AM   #71
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Are there any plans to lengthen CDG's two shorter runways?
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 04:29 PM   #72
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I have never heard of it.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 09:22 PM   #73
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Are there any plans to lengthen CDG's two shorter runways?
No: theses two runway were built for landing only.
Take off are not allowed on it.
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Old July 25th, 2008, 07:23 PM   #74
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Aéroports de Paris, July 22, 2008:
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ADPI: another success for the architecture and engineering subsidiary of
Aéroports de Paris in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia


Pierre Graff, Chairman and CEO of Aéroports de Paris Group and his Royal Highness Prince Sultan Bin Abdul Aziz Al Saoud Crown Prince, Deputy Premier and Minister of Defence and Aviation and Inspector General, and Chairman of the Board of Directors of the General Authority of Civil Aviation sign today in Jeddah a Design Services contract of around 140 mUSD for the development of King Abdulaziz International Airport. This contract follows the architecture competition organized by the GACA (General Authority for Civil Aviation) and won by ADPI.
This represents another success for ADPI at this airport since it won, in 2006, a contract to carry out studies and provide technical support for the upgrading of the three existing terminals (the Hajj, South and North Terminals), as well as studies to develop aeronautical infrastructures.

This contract covers the design of new facilities, which are to be completed in a fast track approach. They will enable the KAIA platform to have a powerful hub with, ultimately, the capacity to handle 80 million passengers per annum by 2035. The project, estimated to cost several billions Saudi Riyals, comprises:
  • a new terminal of almost 550,000 m capable of handling 30 million passengers per annum
  • 42 pier-served aircraft stands (including 2 dedicated to the A380) and 10 remote stands
  • an intermodal transport centre (railway station, MRT to Jeddah city, bus station)
  • a new control tower of about 130 metres in height
  • new access roads
  • new load centres and utilities networks
  • several support facilities
  • 360,000 m² of car parks.

This represents a total surface area of approximately 900,000 m
ADPI is to undertake the entire design of these new facilities.
Beyond its technical and operational qualities, Master Plan of the KAIA airport
ADPI's project was attractive to the Saudi authorities because of its architectural concept.

Symbolic design: The architectural design, now taken over by a team of ADPI's architects led by Dominique Chavanne, employs the symbol of a crescent moon associated with Saudi culture. The materials chosen - mega structure made of steel, copper coloured aluminium roofing, glass, granite and marble– combine modernity with
tradition.

Lofty ambitions for environmental performance

GACA's ambition is that the KAIA airport becomes an emblem for sustainable growth and development in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East.
In order to ensure LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) certification, the innovations proposed by ADPI aim at optimising the energy costs of the building, reducing water consumption and using recycled materials. The environmental quality of the project is present
throughout the passenger's circuit within the airport, its garden and green roof tops.
Photovoltaic panels integrated into the solar protection systems and exclusive Aerial view of the KAIA airport use of recycled water for garden
irrigation, as well as natural lighting for 75 % of the premises, are just some of the measures recommended.
The cladding of the facades in aluminium is particularly suited to the humid climate loaded with sea salt.
To date, no airport of this size has been awarded LEED certification. The project to develop KAIA will be an international benchmark in the air transport sector.

For Alain Le Pajolec, CEO of ADPI:


This new success allows ADPI to consolidate its presence in the Middle East and to make Jeddah the foundation stone for development in a country that is currently experiencing a revival of its grand era of construction in the 1980s. ADPI teams of architects and engineers are demonstrating all their expertise to support Saudi authorities in developing the airport to create a powerful hub.
They are also coordinating with other GACA consultants to develop the site as a whole, both airside and landside, to ultimately give rise to a veritable airport city
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ADPI, established in 2000, is a subsidiary of the Aéroports de Paris Group. It provides design, architecture and engineering services as well as project management support. Patrice Hardel is ADPI's Chairman of the Board and Alain Le Pajolec is ADPI's CEO.
http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/Adp/R...jeddah2008.pdf
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Old July 25th, 2008, 07:36 PM   #75
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Aéroports de Paris, July 24, 2008:
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Aéroports de Paris selects The Nuance Group to create a Fashion and Accessories joint venture

Aéroports de Paris selects The Nuance Group, one of the world leaders in travel retail, as a partner for the creation of a "Fashion and Accessories" joint venture. This new entity, which should be launched in 2009, will manage an area of about 5,000 m² at Paris-Charles de Gaulle and Paris-Orly airport.

This partnership is a new step in the development strategy of Aéroports de Paris travel retail. The Group will hence reinforce its Fashion & Accessories segment, the most dynamic after the Liquor, Tobacco and Perfume categories.

This joint venture will be set up as soon as it gets approval from the competition authorities. It will allow the partners to pool their expertise in the fields of airport, retail and distribution in order to develop innovative concepts and to offer new brands around the theme of "Parisian elegance and lifestyle".


The Nuance Group is one of the global market leaders in the airport retail industry, operating 400 shops across 60 airports and 20 countries around the globe. In addition to its duty and tax free operation, the Nuance portfolio comprises a large number of specialist shops as well as food & beverage operations, in-flight services and shops in other travel retail channels. Furthermore, Nuance offers highest quality supply and retail services to numerous airports, airlines and retailers.

Aéroports de Paris builds, develops and manages airports including Paris-Charles de Gaulle, Paris-Orly and Paris-Le Bourget. Aéroports de Paris is Europe's second-largest airport services group in terms of airport revenues and the European leader for cargo and mail. Aéroports de Paris accommodates nearly 460 airlines, including the main companies in the air transport industry. With an exceptional geographic location and a major trading area, the Group is pursuing its strategy of modernizing its terminal facilities and upgrading the quality of services, and also intends to develop its retail and real estate business. In 2007, Aéroports de Paris Group had revenues of €2,292.4 million and handled 86.4 million passengers.
http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/Adp/R...cpgbjvmode.pdf
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Aéroports de Paris, July 17, 2008 :
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Aéroports de Paris - June 2008 traffic figures

Passenger traffic figures

In June 2008, Aéroports de Paris recorded an increase of 1.9 % in passenger traffic compared with June 2007. Paris airports handled 7.8 million passengers divided up between 5.5 million for Paris-Charles de Gaulle airport (+2.8%) and 2.3 million for Paris-Orly airport (-0.3%).

Traffic figures for June 2008 were marked by an increase on international routes.

Domestic traffic stood at -3.9%. European traffic grew by 1.8%. Traffic on Schengen routes recorded an increase of 2.5%. The British and Irish markets recorded a decrease of 5.6%.

Traffic on the other international routes reached a 6.1% increase. The North and Latin American markets rose by 6%. The African market grew by 8.5%. A 3.9% increase was recorded on routes to and from Asia and the Middle East.

For the first half of 2008, passenger traffic grew by 2.8%. In an environment marked particularly by a tendency to increase plane tickets prices and by a rationalisation of some airlines offer, Aéroports de Paris expects an annual growth of passenger growth between 2.5% and 3% for 2008 (against a previously expected growth close to the 3.75% hypothesis made by the Economic Regulation Contract). Aéroports de Paris maintains the expected growths of turnover and EBITDA for 2008 which should be substantially superior to traffic growth.

In a less favourable global environment, Aéroports de Paris should benefit from the better resistance of major hubs in general and of the excellent attractivity of Paris in particular, as well as the solidness of its main client airlines. Hence, Aéroports de Paris expects passenger traffic to reach between 2% and 3.5% growth in 2009.

The Group maintains its objective of EBITDA growth at + 60% in absolute value between 2005 and 2010.

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http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/Adp/R...ficfigures.pdf
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Old July 31st, 2008, 12:34 PM   #77
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According to Airports Council International, Paris-Charles-de-Gaulle airport's was world's 6th busiest airport in 2007 :
http://www.aci.aero/aci/aci/file/Pre...Stats_2007.pdf
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 08:46 PM   #78
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We already knew that. This year (2008) it should become 5th busiest ahead of LAX due to declining traffic at LAX and increase at CDG.
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Old August 6th, 2008, 12:57 AM   #79
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No: theses two runway were built for landing only.
Take off are not allowed on it.
Unless there is some major obstacle that I don't know of, they could easily lenghten the northernmost runway and allow it for take off.
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Old August 6th, 2008, 01:49 PM   #80
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Unless there is some major obstacle that I don't know of
There are almost 3 000 000 obstacles to lenghten this runway: people who live in the north of Paris.
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