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Old August 6th, 2008, 03:15 PM   #81
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There are almost 3 000 000 obstacles to lenghten this runway: people who live in the north of Paris.
Technically I meant, but you're right.
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There is no need to lenghten these two runways anyway. The airport as it stands now, with two small runways and two long runways, has a capacity of 900,000 landings and take-offs per year. That means 120 million passengers per year, largely enough until 2020.
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Anyway I think that the two shorter runways already serve for take off.
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Paris-CDG : Terminal 2G

Pics of the new terminal 2G (opened today) which will handle Air France regional traffic (3 millions passengers).






http://www.lemoniteur.fr/actualite/a.../DD3DBD4CA.htm

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Terminal 2G

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Press kit : http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ExpFi...nal-T2G-UK.pdf
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Aéroports de Paris and Paris-Charles de Gaulle unveil Terminal 2G, a new competitive asset for regional carriers at Paris-Charles de Gaulle

Paris, 9 September 2008

Exemplary cooperation between Aéroports de Paris and Air France Pierre Graff, Chairman and CEO of Aéroports de Paris and Jean-Cyril Spinetta, chairman and CEO of Air France-KLM today inaugurated the new terminal 2G at Paris-Charles de Gaulle, in the presence of Christine Lagarde, Minister for the Economy, Industry and Employment.

The decision to build Terminal 2G corresponded to two fundamental requirements, i.e., Air France and its regional subsidiaries, Brit Air, City Jet and Régional, wanted to consolidate their traffic in a single location, and Aéroports de Paris wanted to increase its handling capacity to support the growth in traffic within the Schengen area.

Within four years of drawing up these specifications, Aéroports de Paris has delivered a new terminal representing an investment of 94 million euros, in line with expectations. This efficient cooperation illustrates the Aéroports de Paris’ rapid response to supporting the growth of its client airlines.

"With this new investment, Aéroports de Paris offers an efficient tool for handling short and mediumhaul traffic to and from French and European destinations at Paris-Charles de Gaulle. Terminal 2G will offer optimum operating conditions for small-capacity aircraft operated by regional airlines. Thanks to exemplary cooperation between Aéroports de Paris and Air France-KLM, Paris-Charles de Gaulle benefits today from a major competitive asset to support the growth of Schengen traffic and reinforce the hub’s position as a benchmark airport in Europe "stated Pierre Graff.

“Air France’s regional operations are one of the key factors in the airline’s hub strategy”, stated Jean-Cyril Spinetta. “Thanks to a well-organized hub, our customers benefit from a wide choice of regular and convenient services between French and European destinations and the rest of the world.
Moreover, by serving Paris-CDG, we are able to offer connections between French and European destinations and the particularly buoyant Northern Paris area. In this context, the inauguration of terminal 2G provides an opportunity to reinforce Air France’s strategic positioning, by offering customers improved quality of service and optimizing our operating conditions and resources”.

The site chosen for Terminal 2G is located east of Terminals 2F and 2E and is consistent with Air France’s expanding activity in this part of the airport.

Terminal 2G can accommodate up to 3 million passengers annually and 18 aircraft per hour.

The benefits of Terminal 2G

The new facilities at Terminal 2G have been designed to enable Air France and its regional subsidiaries to handle the expanding growth of Schengen traffic through Paris.

More gate parking stands
At terminal 2G, nearly all passengers board or disembark directly in the terminal. With the reopening of the Terminal 2E boarding pier and the implementation of Terminal 2G, 70% of aircraft - representing 80% of passengers – will arrive at/depart from parking stands at the terminal by 2008.

Improved connections for passengers
For connecting passengers, a regular shuttle service connects T2G to the other terminals every 4 to 5
minutes. Transfer baggage is automatically routed between aircraft, avoiding the need for passengers
to collect their baggage between flights.

Minimum taxiing time
The proximity of a new lane reserved for aircraft (called “Echo 4”) minimizes taxiing time and the
number of stops and reduces fuel consumption, ensuring a positive impact both in terms of the
environment and cost.

Reduced operating costs
Gate-parked aircraft, easier international connections, rapid baggage check-in system, simplified
access, etc.

An user-friendly terminal

Streamlined design for optimum efficiency
The terminal comprises three buildings set out in a fan shape: the first building houses the check-in facilities, the second the boarding lounge and shops. The third building houses the baggage claim area. The boarding lounge is linked with two boarding piers giving passengers access to a total of 26 aircraft parking stands. Moreover, a car park with 750 parking spaces (called “PG”) is located close to the terminal. Terminal 2G is easily accessed by the A1 motorway and is also located near to the Paris ring road (A104).

A terminal tailored to the needs of disabled and reduced mobility passengers
In cooperation with associations, Air France and Aéroports de Paris have made every effort to ensure that disabled and reduced mobility passengers receive the same levels of service and assistance, while ensuring that their special needs are taken into consideration for their comfort and well-being.
The entire terminal is fully accessible to these passengers, from arriving at the car park to boarding the plane. They can access the whole range of services available for passengers in the terminal, including check-in, self-service kiosks, shops, etc. They also use the same circuits as other
passengers.

New services tailored to business customers
At Terminal 2G, a range of efficient, personalized services are offered to customers who frequently fly to and from Paris-CDG mainly on business and who seek maximum convenience and wish to save time.

The layout of the building along with Air France’s ground service chain have been specially designed to facilitate departures and arrivals and provide fast connecting channels for customers in transit.

As a result, travellers who are looking to be fully independent have access to many self-service checkin and transfer kiosks. The distances to cover are very short. Customers will find it quicker and easier to get around the airport thanks to clearer and more visible signage.

Terminal 2G also provides passengers access to the latest innovative services including a work area,a free Playstation gaming area and a relaxation area. PC power outlets have been installed at each row of seats, enabling passengers to recharge their electronic devices. 153 AEO screens (Aéroports de Paris’ internal video channel), flight information screens, 3 nurseries, 2 automatic cash dispensers and a smoking area complete the offer of services in the regional terminal.

A “business” area

A “Bert’s” area spanning 200 sq. m. features three themed atmospheres to suit passengers’ varying preferences: club sofas and seats in a cosy setting, restaurant tables for dining and bar stools for a quick snack. “Bert’s” offers quality fast-food menus specially created by a nutritionist.
A multi-store covering 300 sq. m. containing the key products on offer in Aéroports de Paris shops (perfumes, alcohol, tobacco and gourmet foods) and a Press boutique covering 120 sq. m. complete the shopping offer in the terminal 2G boarding lounge. All these shops adjoin the boarding lounge.

A colourful and Feng Shui environment at terminal 2G
The architects at Aéroports de Paris have designed windows in shades of orange, red and blue. The Air France and Aéroports de Paris project teams have called on a Feng Shui specialist to coordinate the building’s facilities so as to ensure the well-being of its passengers. The boarding lounge offers
seating for 600 customers in a varied range of colours and styles (lounge area with club seats, high bar stools overlooking the runways, etc.).

Terminal 2G – pioneering a new sustainable development approach

The regional terminal is an experiment in sustainable design. In cooperation with Certivéa, a subsidiary of CSTB (Scientific and Technical Centre for the Construction Sector), Aéroports de Paris is working on an airport-specific HQE standard, which will be the future reference for this type of building
in France. Terminal 2G is the first building concerned by this new High Environmental Quality process.

Optimum energy performance

The thermal inertia of the building has been improved by insulating the outside of the building and minimizing air infiltration. Heating inside the terminal is adapted to the different areas and the air ventilation system adjusts automatically in line depending on the number of passengers inside the terminal. Inside the building, light energy per square metre is reduced by almost 50% compared to a traditional terminal, while ensuring optimum comfort. Out on the ramp, Aéroports de Paris has also invested in energy-saving boundary lights (L.E.D., or Light Emitting Diodes) which consume three
times less energy than conventional halogen bulbs.

Integrating the building into its natural environment

Aéroports de Paris architects have integrated Terminal 2G infrastructure into the remarkable natural setting of the Vallon des Ranardières, located at the eastern tip of the hub. To maintain the site, a viaduct bridge has been specially built to span the rain water collecting tank.

Once terminal 2G enters into service, flights will be operated to the following 20 destinations

· France: Clermont-Ferrand (Brit Air & Régional), Limoges (Airlinair for Brit Air), Mulhouse-Basle
(Régional), Pau (Régional), Rennes (Airlinair for Brit Air), Strasbourg (Brit Air).
· Germany: Bremen (Régional), Hanover (Régional), Leipzig (Régional) Munster (Régional),
Nuremberg (Régional).
· Spain: Bilbao (Brit Air), Vigo (Régional)
· Italy: Florence (City Jet), Genova (Brit Air), Pisa (Brit Air), Trieste (Brit Air), Verona (Régional),
· Slovenia: Ljubljana (Régional)
· Sweden: Gothenburg (City Jet, Régional).

Key figures for terminal 2G

· A car park with 750 parking spaces adjoining the terminal,
· 18 self-service check-in kiosks,
· 10 self-service transfer kiosks,
· 12 baggage drop-off points including 1 specially designed for reduced mobility passengers,
· 8 customer information points including 1 specially designed for reduced mobility passengers,
· 20 boarding gates and 12 disembarkation gates,
· Flight handling capacity once terminal is brought into operation: approx. 70 flights per day,
· 70 Air France station personnel attend to the needs of customers.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 08:51 PM   #87
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These news have already been posted in the Air France/KLM thread but I think it has its place here:

Aéroports de Paris/Schiphol Group, 21 October 2008
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Aéroports de Paris and Schiphol Group to create a leading global alliance in the airport industry

Through entering into a long-term industrial cooperation and 8% cross-shareholding agreement


To anticipate future challenges in their sector, Aéroports de Paris S.A. (“Aéroports de Paris”) and NV Luchthaven Schiphol (“Schiphol Group”) announce their intention to enter into a long-term industrial cooperation and 8% cross-shareholding agreement that would create a leading global
alliance in the airport industry.

The industrial cooperation agreement would be signed for an initial period of twelve years, and would be supported by an efficient and balanced governance structure to ensure its success. Schiphol Group and Aéroports de Paris would acquire an 8% stake in each other’s share capital toreinforce each airport group’s commitment to the industrial cooperation.

The industrial cooperation between two of Europe’s leading airports represents a bold strategic move that is expected to generate significant joint mutual benefits in all key business areas:

- Aviation: the cooperation will improve the competitiveness of both airports through the consolidation of a dual-hub which will offer through airlines one of the highest number of destinations (1431) and frequencies (over 30,0002) among all European hub airports. Aéroports de Paris and Schiphol Group will cooperate to provide a greatly enhanced value proposition to end-users through best-in-class service levels, broader product offerings and continued competitive visit costs for both airlines and passengers;

- Non-aviation: Schiphol Group and Aéroports de Paris intend to further accelerate the growth and profitability of their retail, real estate and telecoms activities through the exchange of best practices, technology and processes that will increase revenues and reduce costs;

- International development: Aéroports de Paris and Schiphol Group will jointly approach future international airport developments with a key focus on strengthening the dual hub within SkyTeam network internationally and have an opportunistic approach in non SkyTeam zones.
  • Schiphol Group and Aéroports de Paris have identified combined revenue and cost synergies of around €71 million per annum on a fully phased basis by 2013 and expect to reduce capital expenditure by €18 million on average per annum from 2013 onwards.
  • Aéroports de Paris and Schiphol Group have the ambition of becoming front-runners in sustainable development.
  • Schiphol Group and Aéroports de Paris would implement an efficient and balanced governance structure to ensure the success of the industrial cooperation:

    - An Industrial Cooperation Committee would supervise the cooperation. This Committee would have four representatives of each company and be chaired by the Aéroports de Paris and Schiphol Group CEOs on a rotating basis;

    - Eight Steering Committees, composed of an equal number of representatives of each company and co-chaired, would be responsible for the implementation of the cooperation for each particular business area;

    - Aéroports de Paris’ CEO would be appointed to the Schiphol Group Supervisory Board and
  • be proposed to become a member of the audit committee of the Supervisory Board;

    - Schiphol Group’s CEO and its CFO would be appointed to the Aéroports de Paris Board of Directors and Schiphol Group’s CEO would be proposed to become a member of the strategy committee of the Board.
  • Aéroports de Paris would acquire 8% of Schiphol Group share capital through a reserved capital increase, representing a total investment of €370 million.
  • Schiphol Group would acquire 8% of Aéroports de Paris share capital from the French State at a price of €67 per share, representing a total investment of €530 million.
  • Aéroports de Paris and Schiphol Group expect the transaction to be EPS accretive for both companies, respectively from 2009 and 2010 onwards.

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1 Intercontinental destinations (excluding North Africa and Turkey), source: OAG July 2007 (only non stop flights), Schiphol, Roland Berger
2 Weekly long/medium-haul connections in under two hours on a combined basis
http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/Adp/R...p21oct08en.pdf
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Old November 7th, 2008, 04:16 PM   #88
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Pics of the new terminal 2G (opened today) which will handle Air France regional traffic (3 millions passengers).






http://www.lemoniteur.fr/actualite/a.../DD3DBD4CA.htm

Looks cheap
I noticed this structure on Google Earth imagery but did not know what it was, especially since it was not totally complete. With S3 and this small regional terminal or satelitte CDG T2 is looking very big, and all of CDG Airport with T1 and T3 included looks huge.
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Maybe after the terminal E accident they don't want to build innovative designs any more.
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have more pics of the new S3 satellite?
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Old November 21st, 2008, 10:34 PM   #91
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Aéroports de Paris, November 17, 2008 :
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Aéroports de Paris October 2008 traffic figures

Passenger traffic

In October 2008, Aéroports de Paris recorded a 2.9% increase in passenger traffic compared with October 2007. Paris airports handled 7.3 million passengers divided up between 5.2 million at Paris-Charles de Gaulle (+3.4%) and 2.1 million at Paris-Orly(+2.0%).

Over the first ten months of this year, passenger traffic recorded a 1.7% growth.

Traffic figures for October 2008 were marked by a substantial 6.4% growth on the international markets. On North and Latin American routes, traffic increased by 3.8%. The African market grew by 10.7%. Traffic on routes to and from Asia and the Middle-East was up 5.4%.

In October 2008, domestic traffic increased by 3.8%. It benefits from a favourable comparison basis, the labour dispute in the air transport sector of October 2007 having primarily impacted domestic traffic. European traffic was quasi-stable at -0.3% with -0.8% on Schengen routes and -5.7% for the British and Irish markets.

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asiatraveltips.com, December 12, 2008 :
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Strong Preference for Self-Service Check-In at Paris Charles de Gaulle


According to results from the latest SITA / Air Transport World Passenger Self-Service Survey, a global survey of air travellers’ habits and attitudes, travellers using Paris Charles de Gaulle (CDG) have the highest preference for self-service check-in but it is mainly Air France passengers who exercise the option.

Despite the fact that 69% of CDG passengers expressed a preference for self-service check-in - more than at any other airport in the survey - on the day of the survey only 29.9% actually used the service.

The overall low usage rate is explained by the fact that 82.3% of the non-Air France passengers declared that self-service check-in was not available to them on the day of the survey and only 7.3% of these non-Air France passengers used it.

On the other hand, 58.2% of Air France passengers used self-service check-in. This was higher than the 56.2% usage rate which was recorded at the world’s busiest airport, Hartsfield-Jackson, Atlanta.

A closer look at the results for CDG shows that passengers had a three-to-one preference for using kiosks (22.7%) compared to the web (7.2%) for check-in.

Passenger willingness to use self-service kiosks for flight transfers at CDG was the highest across all six airports surveyed at 65% compared to a global average of 54%.

The SITA / Air Transport World Passenger Self-Service Survey takes an in-depth look at the attitudes and habits of a representative sample of the 232 million passengers who use six of the world’s busiest airports across five continents: Hartsfield-Jackson, Atlanta; Mumbai International; Charles de Gaulle, Paris; Moscow Domodedovo; Sao Paulo Guarulhos, Brazil; and OR Tambo International Airport, Johannesburg.

The data is extracted from interviews with 2,143 passengers from over 60 countries travelling on over 100 airlines, conducted at the departure gates earlier this year.

Another particular feature of CDG passengers is they are overwhelmingly in favour of paper boarding passes (95%) despite the arrival of electronic boarding passes which only 3% of CDG passengers prefer compared to a global average of 34%. And 95.9% would not want to use a boarding pass sent to their mobile phone to check-in.

CDG passengers also had the lowest tolerance for airline or airport use of location-sensing technology e.g. mobile phones, to locate them and guide them through the airport with 95% of those surveyed opposed to such a development.

Dominique El Bez, SITA Marketing Portfolio Director, said, “Overall the survey tells us that self-service is here to stay but it does highlight areas where airlines and airports need to take a second look to ensure they are getting a return on their investment in new technologies and that it delivers value to passengers.

“The public passing through Paris Charles De Gaulle should be encouraged to familiarise themselves with the convenience of the web for both online booking and self-service check-in. Their willingness overall to avail of self-service check-in kiosks is clear so that provides a good platform to encourage use of other self-service functionality.

“The relatively low usage rate or reported non-availability of self-service check-in on the day of the survey emphasises the importance of disruption management and zero IT downtime to support the self-service environment.”

At just 7.2%, the web check-in rate for CDG is one of the lowest worldwide compared to Mumbai (19.3%), Atlanta (18%) and Sao Paolo (12.8%). Globally, the survey found that 60% of passengers stated they will use web check-in in future; in CDG the percentage is 65%.

The proportion of CDG passengers who never used a self-service check-in kiosk was 42.9% and lack of familiarity with the web as a channel for check-in was high with 77.9% never having used it. This non-use percentage was only topped by Moscow Domodedovo (85.3%) and Johannesburg (83.2%).
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Sfilate, December 12, 2008
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PRADA OPENS A SHOP IN THE CHARLES DE GAULLE AIRPORT IN PARIS DEDICATED TO TRAVEL, LEATHER GOODS, AND ACCESSORIES.

A new Prada shop opens in the international terminal 2E of the Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris. This inauguration follows recent store openings in Heathrow Airport in London and in Fiumicino Airport in Rome.
The store, designed by architect Roberto Baciocchi, covers an area of 100 square meters and is enclosed on three sides by a glass wall and door. An original panel composed of steel rods creates a striking backdrop.
The traditional elements of all Prada shops, such as the pale green fabric wall treatments and beige carpet, stand out in this unique setting.
The irregular hexagonal shape of the store layout makes it possible to separate the sales areas, which are further defined by the choice of materials and colors. Waxy white Saffiano leather furnishings are chosen for the women’s collection, while rosewood display units are used for the men’s one.
The store sells men’s and women’s leather goods, accessories, and eyewear. The Prada travel collection and luggage in Saffiano leather and Nylon, the historical materials of the brand, are prominently featured.
With this new opening, there are now ten Prada boutiques in Paris.
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Aéroports de Paris, December 22, 2008:
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Aéroports de Paris commissions a new cargo terminal at Paris-Orly

Aéroports de Paris has just commissioned a new cargo terminal at Paris-Orly airport. This cargo terminal with a total surface of 14,700 sqm, is composed of 12,000 sqm of warehouses surmounted by a 2, 700 sqm of office area.

Adapted to the needs of cargo operators, the terminal benefited from developments helping to speed up the handling of goods: levelling systems in front of each door, enlarged manoeuvring areas, under-beam height of 9 m, zenithal lighting. The terminal is surrounded by manoeuvring space landside for good unloading, storage area airside and 2 parking lots of 325 spaces for employees and clients.

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Aéroports de Paris, December 16, 2008:
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Passenger traffic

In November 2008, passenger traffic at Aéroports de Paris decreased by 4.8% compared with November 2007. Paris airports handled 6.2 million passengers divided up between 4.3 million at Paris-Charles de Gaulle (-3.7%) and 1.9 million at Paris-Orly (-7.1%). The November traffic results were affected by a four-day industrial dispute in the air transport industry causing approximately an estimated 2.2 percentage points decrease. For the record, the 2007 November traffic figures had shown a buoyant 5.3 % growth.

Over the first eleven months of this year, passenger traffic recorded a 1.1% growth.

Traffic figures for November 2008 were marked by a stable international market (-0.1%). The African market grew robustly by 6.5% while traffic on American as well as Asian and Middle Eastern routes decreased by 3.8% and 2.5%, respectively.

Domestic traffic stood at -11.6%. European traffic decreased by 5.4% with -6.2% on Schengen routes and -8.1% for the British and Irish markets.

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How are the rail connections to CDG and Orly? I know there is an RER line that runs right through CDG to DT Paris but Orly I am not so sure about.
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Line B connects Orly to dowtown Paris, but you have to take the Orlyval metro at Antony.

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How are the rail connections to CDG and Orly? I know there is an RER line that runs right through CDG to DT Paris but Orly I am not so sure about.
As Alvar Lavague already told, there is the Orlyval metro connecting the airport to the RER B at Antony, however, that connection isn't really efficient.

Overall, from Central Paris, it takes a longer time via public transports to go to Orly airport than to go to CDG airport. Something which isn't logic considering that Orly is actually much closer to Central Paris than CDG is.

In the 90's, Paris current metro line 14 has been conceived with in mind to extend it directly to Orly airport. Unfortunately, this plan has been abandonned since then.
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It is not that suprising.
Between CDG 2 and Chatelet les Halles, there is 12 stations.
Between Antony and Chatelet les Halles, there is 14 stations... more if you include Orlyval.

Just looking the map we clearly see that southern RER B has more station in the dense area (zone 1 at 3) than the northern part.
1 train out 2 that serve CDG are express, in the southern part most train make stop at every stations.
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