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Old December 25th, 2014, 12:31 PM   #2121
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To my opinion I think that this tower is ugly, China has some way better designed towers.
But maybe that's what makes it even more impressive.
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Old December 26th, 2014, 05:28 AM   #2122
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To my opinion I think that this tower is ugly, China has some way better designed towers.
But maybe that's what makes it even more impressive.
If you don'tlike it just say it . No one is gonna kill you for that no need to over compensate by complimenting others and trying to find something special about this tower.
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Old December 26th, 2014, 06:27 AM   #2123
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Wow the design of the bldg., looks like it they wanted to, they could have went 700 easily.. This is the Best thing rising...
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 09:52 PM   #2124
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Can someone explain to me why they built this building in such a bleak/remote area? It looks very rural. I can't imagine this building will be put to good use after it's completed; like many Chinese buildings/cities/malls outside of the city, I fear it'll remain vacant and abandoned.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 10:03 PM   #2125
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Clearly because it has an entire business park planned around it and it needs open cheap land.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 10:14 PM   #2126
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Right, but what's the demand for such a business park in this area? If you look at the map, this park's location is rather remote... Plus, we have so many buildings soon to be available in Yujiapu, are there really that many businesses that would move to Tianjin?

We also have to consider Tianjin's close proximity to Beijing, and AFAIK, most international businesses and large corporations would rather have offices in Beijing, and they wouldn't need another site so close, only few hours away...
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Old January 4th, 2015, 07:06 PM   #2127
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The Chinese government wants to encourage people to stay out of Beijing, because the current growth is simply too much. So maybe it's like the chicken and the egg story. Business don't want to move to here because there is no office space, so the government first has to build office space, and then hope that demand will come. They want to get demand away from Beijing.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 07:31 PM   #2128
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Yeah, the whole building boom in many of these smaller Chinese cities comes from a "build it and they will come," or at least a "build it and we will forcibly relocate them from the countryside" mindset.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 07:45 PM   #2129
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Can someone explain to me why they built this building in such a bleak/remote area? It looks very rural. I can't imagine this building will be put to good use after it's completed; like many Chinese buildings/cities/malls outside of the city, I fear it'll remain vacant and abandoned.
It is only about 5km from the Tianjin South railway station which was completed in 2011. Adjacent to it, there are three universities and a high tech business park, so it is not as bleak as you think.

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Old January 5th, 2015, 07:35 AM   #2130
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It is only about 5km from the Tianjin South railway station which was completed in 2011. Adjacent to it, there are three universities and a high tech business park, so it is not as bleak as you think.

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I am also confident of and trust in the Tianjin municipality decision on this location.
I am sure that the site selection had to pass some heated discussions at multiple times. People who had to sign such decision papers knew that they may be exposed to unending criticism, if the location decision could not have been justified then, or now, or in the future.
They knew that it would be somewhat difficult to make such giant building invisible in years to come.
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Old January 5th, 2015, 04:09 PM   #2131
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Right, but what's the demand for such a business park in this area? If you look at the map, this park's location is rather remote... Plus, we have so many buildings soon to be available in Yujiapu, are there really that many businesses that would move to Tianjin?

We also have to consider Tianjin's close proximity to Beijing, and AFAIK, most international businesses and large corporations would rather have offices in Beijing, and they wouldn't need another site so close, only few hours away...
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Tianjin is a big, rich city too
Tianjin's GDP per capita is higher than Beijing's
Why shouldn't a rich city of 14 million have a few big skyscrapers?
Your talking points are about 15 years out-of-date, the relative importance of Beijing has decreased somewhat
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Old January 5th, 2015, 04:13 PM   #2132
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Yeah, the whole building boom in many of these smaller Chinese cities comes from a "build it and they will come," or at least a "build it and we will forcibly relocate them from the countryside" mindset.
Tianjin is not a "smaller Chinese city."
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Old January 5th, 2015, 04:22 PM   #2133
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Tianjin is not a "smaller Chinese city."
The facts concur. Tianjin has the third largest urban area in China, after Shanghai and Beijing. Only New York and Los Angeles in the United States have larger urban populations. Tianjin is no small town.
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Old January 5th, 2015, 04:53 PM   #2134
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Like 99% or rather 99.9% of people on the West know only three Chinese cities at most: Beijing, Shanghai and Hongkong. Tianjin, Wuhan, Shenzen, Guangzhou, Nanjing, Chengdu, Chongqing etc are just some unknown Chinese words for them that could occur in some China-related news.

I know that because before I joined SSC I was not much better ...
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Old January 5th, 2015, 04:54 PM   #2135
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It's a real pity though. China has so many great supertalls (this one, Shanghai Tower, Ping An, GCTF to name a few), but most of them are "towers in the park". I know you can't expect 432 Park Avenue style here, but a bit more density around those super-towers wouldn't hurt.
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Old January 5th, 2015, 05:20 PM   #2136
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I agree. Luckily, with the fast pace of change in China, the surrounding area may be redeveloped within a decade.
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Old January 5th, 2015, 06:58 PM   #2137
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I think it looks unique and very cool, especially that structure on the top.
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Old January 5th, 2015, 07:07 PM   #2138
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Like 99% or rather 99.9% of people on the West know only three Chinese cities at most: Beijing, Shanghai and Hongkong. Tianjin, Wuhan, Shenzen, Guangzhou, Nanjing, Chengdu, Chongqing etc are just some unknown Chinese words for them that could occur in some China-related news.

I know that because before I joined SSC I was not much better ...
I guess I'm one of the 0.1% who know more than three cities then
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Old January 5th, 2015, 09:21 PM   #2139
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I know that because before I joined SSC I was not much better ...
Right, because you really are a statistically relevant sample ...

I agree that Tianjin is quite unknown in Europe, but Guangzhou, Nanjing or Xi'an are quite famous, due to obvious historical reason. Macao is also becoming famous.

99.9% ... that is an enormous proportion.

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Old January 5th, 2015, 09:44 PM   #2140
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Tianjin is not a "smaller Chinese city."
I only meant relative to the megalopolises of Shanghai, Hong Kong/Shenzhen, etc. The way I'd described anything other than New York, Chicago or LA as "smaller American cities."
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