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Old April 5th, 2015, 05:06 PM   #2261
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Where did the word "another" come from?
Can you name a completed supertall in China that is a ghost tower? Only in your mind or wish?

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He most likely was referring to the Shanghai Tower maybe he saw a sixty minutes style real life documentary when they stand outside recently T/O buildings before they are completed claiming they have never been occupied not a single tenant a true ghost tower, evidence of the Chinese urban myth.

If it wasn't the Shanghai tower then we are in the dark because he didn't name one.
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Old April 5th, 2015, 05:51 PM   #2262
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He most likely was referring to the Shanghai Tower maybe he saw a sixty minutes style real life documentary when they stand outside recently T/O buildings before they are completed claiming they have never been occupied not a single tenant a true ghost tower, evidence of the Chinese urban myth.

If it wasn't the Shanghai tower then we are in the dark because he didn't name one.

The TV-crew would probably have taken a taxi to The Pants in Suzhou instead and done a piece on why it takes 12 years to build something if you have tenants lined up waiting to move in...

Anyway: Is it one company or are there many different ones moving into Shanghai Tower?
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Old April 5th, 2015, 06:29 PM   #2263
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On the subject of clusters and their infkuence on urbanization in China

China to develop city clusters along middle reaches of Yangtze

BEIJING - China on Sunday unveiled a plan to develop city clusters along the middle reaches of the Yangtze River in a move to create a new economic growth engine and promote new urbanization.

They will mainly consist of urban clusters around Wuhan in Hubei province, the Changsha-Zhuzhou-Xiangtan city group in Hunan province and clusters around Poyang Lake in Jiangxi province, said the State Council, China's cabinet.

The clusters cover a total area of 317,000 square kilometers and are a pillar of the Yangtze River Economic Belt. They will also be key areas to implement the "Rise of central China" strategy, deepen reform and opening-up and promote a new type of urbanization, the State Council said in a statement on the government website.

Priority will be given to coordinated development between urban and rural areas and connectivity of infrastructure, such as construction of important transportation, water conservation and energy projects, noted the statement.

China put forward its "Rise of central China" strategy in 2004 amid efforts to achieve more balanced development. China last year began creating an economic belt along the Yangtze to promote better coordination in industrial development and more efficient allocation of resources among provincial regions traversed by the Yangtze, China's longest river.

Efforts will be made to make the most of each area's comparative industrial advantages, build competitive industry clusters, strengthen modern agriculture bases, promote industrial transfer among different areas, and speed up industrial upgrades, said the statement.

The plan comes as China works to facilitate economic upgrading and sustainable growth through urbanization.

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Old April 5th, 2015, 06:36 PM   #2264
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Isnt it kinda deserted? Like far away from the centre of Tianjin? Why did they even chose such an location? I mean i know its cheaper, but the building is gonna be... more ghost-ish
The entire area is a new business district. It's not really that far from Tianjin but it's certainly not actually within the city itself. Having been there I can tell you that it's not in the boonies or anything (there's pretty much no such thing in China)

Sure, room could be made within Tianjin but you also have to bear in mind that the older cities weren't built with buildings such as this in mind. You can do it but if you've ever been to China you know that traffic is an issue. A lot of Chinese cities have new, planned CBDs that are far away from the traditional cores.
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Old April 5th, 2015, 06:44 PM   #2265
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Where did the word "another" come from?
Can you name a completed supertall in China that is a ghost tower? Only in your mind or wish?

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Well, there are indeed ghost towers in China but certainly none of the premier locations. There are plenty of buildings that are certainly "ghostly" though.

Also, bear in mind that most of the world just doesn't build nearly as many towers as China does. Just one average new Chinese residential district would be more than enough to suffice for ten years in your average N. American city and of course China has thousands of these things going up every day. It's easy for outsiders to conclude that it's some sort of failure on the part of planners when some fraction of them sit empty. Obviously they're wrong but for most of the world it's a strange thing.
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Old April 5th, 2015, 06:59 PM   #2266
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I set up a special thread that deals with city clusters and urbanization

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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post122980788


It might clear up some common mis conceptions that outsiders have in regards to national strategy regarding this pattern of urbanization and why significant commercial and residential projects are located far from existing ones including the Tianjin117.

Outside of India and China I don't thinik this pattern of urbanization would make much sense.
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Old April 9th, 2015, 12:01 AM   #2267
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Old April 9th, 2015, 12:05 AM   #2268
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Old April 9th, 2015, 12:26 AM   #2269
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Old April 9th, 2015, 04:57 AM   #2270
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That is the most beautiful building in the World. 60 Minutes in the USA did a feature, of a "ghost city" in China called jiang Zhou, that must be what the former above is referring to. I didn't see any "supertalls".
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Old April 14th, 2015, 03:58 AM   #2271
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That is the most beautiful building in the World. 60 Minutes in the USA did a feature, of a "ghost city" in China called jiang Zhou, that must be what the former above is referring to. I didn't see any "supertalls".
Well i remember that, you should watch the below video It would certainly clear your doubts about that

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Old April 15th, 2015, 11:42 PM   #2272
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Old April 16th, 2015, 12:01 AM   #2274
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Well i remember that, you should watch the below video It would certainly clear your doubts about that
Zhengzhou Greenland Center is a really underrated building. the locals also call it 大玉米 (the big corn), because at night it is brightly colored in yellow.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 05:36 AM   #2275
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Zhengzhou Greenland Center is a really underrated building. the locals also call it 大玉米 (the big corn), because at night it is brightly colored in yellow.
Well the chinese always name their buildings crazily. SWFC as a bottle opener , jin mao screwdriver. The CCTV and Suzhou gate as the under pants.

Infact I thought Chinese were well known, for their art of exotic naming--> funny names


I think its just a chinese thing to give funny humiliating names and has nothing to do with how they see themselves or their buildings
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Old April 18th, 2015, 05:58 AM   #2276
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Zhengzhou Greenland Center is a really underrated building. the locals also call it 大玉米 (the big corn).
The name suits it, They should have officially named it the Big Corn
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Well the chinese always name their buildings crazily. SWFC as a bottle opener , jin mao screwdriver. The CCTV and Suzhou gate as the under pants.

Infact I thought Chinese were well known, for their art of exotic naming--> funny names


I think its just a chinese thing to give funny humiliating names and has nothing to do with how they see themselves or their buildings
Changzhou modern media center is called "the syringe"
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It looks ridiculously tall, I wish it would never stop rising. Just let it taper until it's a spire haha
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