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Old April 8th, 2010, 08:40 PM   #301
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This sign is neither funy nor good, but a typical example for the bad Austrian signage
Have you ever tried to read such a sign while driving 130? Good luck!
My French is near-fluent but my German is rusty. Does "Maut" mean "toll"? If so, I'm wondering why "toll" is indicated in German and French.
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Old April 8th, 2010, 08:50 PM   #302
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Maut is indeed the German word for toll.
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Old April 8th, 2010, 10:35 PM   #303
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If so, I'm wondering why "toll" is indicated in German and French.
it varies from country to country. in Croatia we also have written cestarina/peage. in Spain they have peaje/toll. in Germany i think they have money drawn. in Italy it is alt/stazione. depends about country.
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Old April 8th, 2010, 10:54 PM   #304
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The Péage thing is possibly a thing from before the 2000's, when French was a relatively important language in mainland Europe. However, since the accession of numerous Slavic-language countries into the European Union (thus EU traffic), French doesn't make sense anymore. It has lost it's status as an important language because it isn't taught at most central / Eastern European schools. There are so many languages in the EU now, that they should harmonize it to English, the international language. If any foreign language is taught anywhere in Europe, it is English, not German, not French, not Italian, not Spanish, not Frisian.

The next move would be to make some signs bilingual; both the local and English language.
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Old April 8th, 2010, 11:54 PM   #305
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Well, even in the 80s, I wouldn't have expected to see JUST German and French in an area so far from any French-speaking territory. (I would think it was regrettable, though, if Europeans starting to think their neighbors' languages were useless because "everyone can just speak English". It's probably still appropriate to give German at least as much priority as English in Alsace, for example. I'm not one of those Americans whose allergic to languages... and I don't want to see my language turned into a sort of Esperanto by Europeans who think they speak it....)
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Old April 9th, 2010, 01:29 AM   #306
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Spare a thought for English people reading theiir driving in America.....'thru'...'center'...
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Old April 14th, 2010, 11:35 PM   #307
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My French is near-fluent but my German is rusty. Does "Maut" mean "toll"? If so, I'm wondering why "toll" is indicated in German and French.
As ChrisZwolle said, it could be because French was an important language in Mainland Europe in the 2000's. But in addition, "péage" is immediately recognized as a foreign word by German speakers, whereas "TOLL" could be confused with its german homograph, the german word "Toll" meaning "Wonderful, Great !".

So we have to pay money to use this road... how wonderful ;-)
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Old April 15th, 2010, 09:22 PM   #308
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The péage would be comparable to the word "Douane" being used at some european border crossings. Even Denmark has them "Told / Douane"
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 12:49 AM   #309
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Finally got a pic of this today:

Right turn signal:


Close up (Yes drivers DO take the sign literally... and wait for the red light rather than proceed on the green arrow):


It would have made far more sense for the sign to read "STOP Turn right when green arrow showing. Or... No right turn on red" But no...
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 12:58 AM   #310
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stop sign FAIL
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 01:08 AM   #311
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This one is awesome:



It's swedish and it means "Being lazy is not a disability."
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 03:34 AM   #312
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It's swedish and it means "Being lazy is not a disability."
That sign should be more common around the world. Probably 90% of the cars that are parked in spaces for handicapped people don't involve a handicapped person.
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 06:25 AM   #313
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 10:58 AM   #314
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muitos de nós não falam português

btw, this red light is hilarious. that's why i hate descriptive signs
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 12:55 PM   #315
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Squirrel warning sign from Tallinn. It's a real road sign meant for warning drivers to cut speed & not to drive over squirrels,who might cross the street (honestly). Actually quite common sight for streets in Tallinn's parks & wooded districts.

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Old June 22nd, 2010, 02:48 PM   #316
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This one is awesome:

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It's swedish and it means "Being lazy is not a disability."
Haha, here in Belgium we also have similar subsigns, saying "If you take my place, also take my disability".

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Old June 22nd, 2010, 03:00 PM   #317
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Finally got a pic of this today:

Right turn signal:


Close up (Yes drivers DO take the sign literally... and wait for the red light rather than proceed on the green arrow):


It would have made far more sense for the sign to read "STOP Turn right when green arrow showing. Or... No right turn on red" But no...:ohno
omgosh i seriously wouldn't know what the hell they mean. I think it's strange that in the US they write out everything (sometimes causing confusion like this case) as if they thought the people are too stupid to learn some simple traffic signs. Or maybe some of them are (watching some driving videos of the US makes you think)
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 03:30 PM   #318
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Great sign!!! (That of "turn right on red")
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 05:09 PM   #319
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Haha, here in Belgium we also have similar subsigns, saying "If you take my place, also take my disability".

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in my city in HR we have exact that
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 05:14 PM   #320
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omgosh i seriously wouldn't know what the hell they mean. I think it's strange that in the US they write out everything (sometimes causing confusion like this case) as if they thought the people are too stupid to learn some simple traffic signs. Or maybe some of them are (watching some driving videos of the US makes you think)
That's in Canada, I think....

It's not a matter of assuming Americans are stupid, although I realize that assumption is fashionable in parts of Europe. Just think of the history: this is a large and essentially monolingual country. Many people spend their entire lives without ever getting anywhere near an area where a language other than English is spoken, and the number of non-native-speakers - forgetting about immigrants - using the roads in a given area at a given time is very low. When road signage started to develop, writing things out in English would have been the natural way to do it - understandable to just about anyone. Why develop a symbol system? In fact, it probably wouldn't have occurred to anyone to do so. The symbol system Europeans are used to developed in an environment where writing everything in the local language has its drawbacks, the main one being that significant numbers of people who don't understand the local language will be in or passing through the area....

This sign reminds me I meant to ask about the right-turn-on-red thing, but that probably belongs in a separate thread.
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