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Old February 11th, 2011, 10:07 PM   #601
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GPS's for trucks are very convenient as truckers have to serve many addresses they are not familiar with. But the problem is GPS does not always know bridge heights and so on... But I believe they developed a truck GPS nowadays.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 10:29 PM   #602
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He/she said GPS (satellite navigation-global positioning system)
I read it as GSM. Which is how French-speaking Belgians (but not the French, I think) say cell phone/mobile.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 10:33 PM   #603
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GPS's for trucks are very convenient as truckers have to serve many addresses they are not familiar with. But the problem is GPS does not always know bridge heights and so on... But I believe they developed a truck GPS nowadays.
Exactly they did. Many truckers in Britain use such advanced devices.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 11:44 PM   #604
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Old February 12th, 2011, 05:25 AM   #605
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I read it as GSM. Which is how French-speaking Belgians (but not the French, I think) say cell phone/mobile.
It's been a long day....
GSM is a specific cell phone system. It's standard in Europe and the only one used there, and all phones using it have a "SIM card". It's also one of two cell phone systems used in the USA, the other being CDMA (such phones do not use SIM cards).
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Old February 12th, 2011, 10:14 AM   #606
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Yeah, I meant some kind of signs that forbid resp. recommend not to use a GPS navigation because of detours during roadworks... We want to introduce this kind of sign, so I'm searching for some pictures to support it...
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Old February 12th, 2011, 01:34 PM   #608
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GPS's for trucks are very convenient as truckers have to serve many addresses they are not familiar with. But the problem is GPS does not always know bridge heights and so on... But I believe they developed a truck GPS nowadays.
It's the software the thing for this.
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Garmin has special version for truckers with bridge heights
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:58 AM   #610
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Wouldnt be more convenient to introduce more cooperation between the road authorities and navigation companies? In case of planned closures it should be easy to uptade the map of onboard unites (through internet) even if they are not the live versions with GSM module. I am not talking about updating the map, just giving traffic information about closures and detours.

Now I got an idea. If manufacture price of an GPS device is lets say 80 Euro, which I think is lower, and system price cannot be astronomical, it could be feasible to introduce state GPS GSM online based navigation system with setting the rule for compulsary onboard navigation GPS GSM units on all veheicles (or given the manufacturing date of a veheicle). This is not that different from other standard requirements on cars.


It would be interesting to compare costs of such a system with the standard sign board based navigational system. Of course we would have to take in account savings that could be made in heavy congested areas, in peak hours, etc. With online updated information about traffic times and routes, huge costs could be prevented and time saved.

I guess this could be more efficient system and nice step into the future of inteligent transportation.

Very good alternative is governmental based open planning and map system, with real time updated traffic information, traffic rules, traffic changes, retours, construction details etc (the complexity of the system could be in fact far more reaching than roads, speaking about urban planning, basically all infrastructure projects, with all possible data attached - as the age of given structures, lifetime reaching warnings about them etc.). This open platform would than be offered with standardized interfaces for real time online acces and commercial use (may for a fee when commercially used).
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Old February 13th, 2011, 01:01 AM   #611
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Wouldnt be more convenient to introduce more cooperation between the road authorities and navigation companies? In case of planned closures it should be easy to uptade the map of onboard unites (through internet) even if they are not the live versions with GSM module. I am not talking about updating the map, just giving traffic information about closures and detours.
That would be a logistical nightmare of epic proportions to say the least.
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Wouldnt be more convenient to introduce more cooperation between the road authorities and navigation companies? In case of planned closures it should be easy to uptade the map of onboard unites (through internet) even if they are not the live versions with GSM module. I am not talking about updating the map, just giving traffic information about closures and detours.

Now I got an idea. If manufacture price of an GPS device is lets say 80 Euro, which I think is lower, and system price cannot be astronomical, it could be feasible to introduce state GPS GSM online based navigation system with setting the rule for compulsary onboard navigation GPS GSM units on all veheicles (or given the manufacturing date of a veheicle). This is not that different from other standard requirements on cars.


It would be interesting to compare costs of such a system with the standard sign board based navigational system. Of course we would have to take in account savings that could be made in heavy congested areas, in peak hours, etc. With online updated information about traffic times and routes, huge costs could be prevented and time saved.

I guess this could be more efficient system and nice step into the future of inteligent transportation.

Very good alternative is governmental based open planning and map system, with real time updated traffic information, traffic rules, traffic changes, retours, construction details etc (the complexity of the system could be in fact far more reaching than roads, speaking about urban planning, basically all infrastructure projects, with all possible data attached - as the age of given structures, lifetime reaching warnings about them etc.). This open platform would than be offered with standardized interfaces for real time online acces and commercial use (may for a fee when commercially used).
Compulsory GPS? I don't have GPS and don't want it. I'd just as soon be able to hear the radio, or my thoughts...and I know how to read a map.
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Its not about reading the map, its about smart transportation system. Anyway it is interesting cost benefit analysis question and further elaboration of the theme.

Is it cheaper to put aside all roads all these road signs, change them with every road closure, etc.? Or, is it cheaper to create smart electronic system, visualizing, navigating, online updating, directing traffic, etc. on board. Of course it is more a vision than a todays solution.

Anyway, I think that digitalization of urbanization is already huge and will only evolve in the future. When it is not a problem to create artificial online worlds, it should not be impossible to create very precise, complex, 3D, object and time differentiated, urban plans.

Does your car have braking lights? Fog light? Insurance? Technical check ups? Seatbelts, etc? Well, in the future it will have some sort of communication unit/gps/gsm, otherwise it will not be allowed on (at first some) public roads. Further on the driving will be automated.
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Its not about reading the map, its about smart transportation system. Anyway it is interesting cost benefit analysis question and further elaboration of the theme.

Is it cheaper to put aside all roads all these road signs, change them with every road closure, etc.? Or, is it cheaper to create smart electronic system, visualizing, navigating, online updating, directing traffic, etc. on board. Of course it is more a vision than a todays solution.

Anyway, I think that digitalization of urbanization is already huge and will only evolve in the future. When it is not a problem to create artificial online worlds, it should not be impossible to create very precise, complex, 3D, object and time differentiated, urban plans.

Does your car have braking lights? Fog light? Insurance? Technical check ups? Seatbelts, etc? Well, in the future it will have some sort of communication unit/gps/gsm, otherwise it will not be allowed on (at first some) public roads. Further on the driving will be automated.
Having lights and insurance and annual inspections and seat belts is a hell of a lot less intrusive on my life than an automated voice telling me every turn (even if it's a route I know reasonably well), probably at a key moment in the ball game I'm listening to or in the middle of a favorite song, or while I'm just enjoying some peace and quiet (a concept I realize people under a certain age are unfamiliar with). What works for you is your business, but it doesn't work for everyone. I don't know what country you live in, but in this one I don't see any legislature getting away with mandating this. You want to mandate GPS in every car, you need to make it possible to turn it off, and leave the damn signs up.

(And automated driving? Some people actually enjoy driving....)
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Thanks a lot, that's the kind of signs I've been looking for...
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Whats the fun in having GPS?
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Last night, I was watching a Top Gear rerun, from about 2005. Jeremy Clarkson was test-driving a new BMW and the fact that the GPS wouldn't shut up - kept interrupting him as he was telling us things - became a running joke. Eventually, he figured the only way to shut it up was to pull over and turn the engine off.
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