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Old June 10th, 2011, 01:08 PM   #681
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And what does the first word on the last line actually mean ??


"Attention: sliced road next 9,550 km"
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Old June 10th, 2011, 01:39 PM   #682
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afaik it means cutted or slashed, it might mean that the road is narrow for the nex 9.55 km??
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And what does the first word on the last line actually mean ??


"Attention: sliced road next 9,550 km"
Are three decimal places really necessary?
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Old June 10th, 2011, 03:23 PM   #684
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Could it mean the road is closed 9-1/2 km on?
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Old June 10th, 2011, 03:55 PM   #686
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And what does the first word on the last line actually mean ??


"Attention: sliced road next 9,550 km"
Road closed in 9550 km
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Old June 15th, 2011, 09:23 AM   #687
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Old June 16th, 2011, 07:22 PM   #688
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Old August 6th, 2011, 08:55 PM   #689
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Czech D1 near Prague, how do you get this sign? (explanation below)



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Starting 1.7.2011 Austria banned all transit traffic (trucks) on E49 Schrems - Wien. In fact, trucks originating/ending to the south of E50 in CZ are allowed to drive through the road, others are not. However, I'm curious how can they check this...

Above shown sign is the result of bilateral negotiations between Czech Ministry of Transport and Land Niederösterreich. It's meant to describe the ban in an internationally recognizable way. Does it serve it's purpose? what do you think?
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Is it legally allowed to ban truck traffic on E-roads?

By the way, I understand the sign, pozor means "warning", but they should've added WARNING! and ACHTUNG! to it. But in a way you can also think that truck traffic is banned and transit traffic should use E47 via Austria. Besides that, I have my doubts about the knowledge of drivers about E-numbers.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 10:10 PM   #691
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I think it is a badly designed sign. I agree with Chris, it may just as well mean that D1 has restrictions and all heavy traffic to Austria is recommended to take E49 instead.

Looking at the map to see what the actual restricted route is, I would suggest something like this instead:

Tábor - Schrems - Wien
[RESTRICTION SIGN]

Alternative:
D1 via Brno
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Old August 7th, 2011, 12:53 AM   #692
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Thanks for replies...

According to CZ regulations it's well designed - the additional frame with text under the truck ban sign restricts the general validity of the truck ban sign - but I'm afraid it is not so comprehensible in international way. Nevermind.

Regarding the legitimacy of the truck ban in Austria, I'm afraid that only on TEN-T network the general usage for all vehicles is protected. AFAIK this ban relieved the czech part of E49 from esp. RO, BG and other SEE trucks.
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Old August 7th, 2011, 02:20 PM   #693
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I think it is a badly designed sign. I agree with Chris, it may just as well mean that D1 has restrictions and all heavy traffic to Austria is recommended to take E49 instead.

I thought that that was the meaning at first. I think that the national numbers should be used on the sign, I don't know anyone that uses E-Numbers.

Lorry drivers might understand it better though, they might be more used to such situations?
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Old August 7th, 2011, 02:46 PM   #694
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But in a way you can also think that truck traffic is banned and transit traffic should use E47 via Austria..
that's exactly what i thought it meant.
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I think it is a badly designed sign. I agree with Chris, it may just as well mean that D1 has restrictions and all heavy traffic to Austria is recommended to take E49 instead.

Looking at the map to see what the actual restricted route is, I would suggest something like this instead:

Tábor - Schrems - Wien
[RESTRICTION SIGN]

Alternative:
D1 via Brno


In Spain when congestion (special dates, or just weekend evenings) they partially ban trucks in some roads.

I remember driving by A-2 (E-90) direction Madrid and later south (A-4, and do not remember E-XX-which-one). Electronic pannels said "Trucks forbidden between km.135 and M-40".

km. 135 (motorway A-2, kilometer point number 135) is one road cross and easy to leave there trucks for some hours.
M-40 is one of Madrid orbital motorways. They say that because after that cross all trucks are forbidden without authoritation.
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Old August 7th, 2011, 06:54 PM   #696
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A-4 is E05.

When there is a euroroute, I prefer to use its number over the national number. Even if the euroroute is not signed. So when I refer to E13 I'm saying British M1.
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A-4 is E05.

When there is a euroroute, I prefer to use its number over the national number. Even if the euroroute is not signed. So when I refer to E13 I'm saying British M1.
As you can guess, not very many people in the UK are aware of the existence of E-routes, and if someone told me to take the E13 from London, I wouldn't know which "exit" that was .

Even in Portugal where E-routes are occasionally signed (sometimes signs even have the little green box blank ) not many are aware of them

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15 years ago I made a trip, partially on roads, partially with motorways from Milano to Barcelona... just following E-routes. There were too many crosses, specially when not motorway, but E-routes helped us to do not have any trouble and do not get lost anywhere.
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Old August 8th, 2011, 09:15 PM   #699
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And what does the first word on the last line actually mean ??
"Attention: sliced road next 9,550 km"
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afaik it means cutted or slashed, it might mean that the road is narrow for the nex 9.55 km??
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Could it mean the road is closed 9-1/2 km on?
Using Google Translate, I got the following: Attention: Road closed to 9550 Km. I think it MIGHT be: Attention: Road closed at 9.5 Km.
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Old August 10th, 2011, 05:38 PM   #700
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Very, very strange (and very rubish information).

It is usual to inform when will be the road closed to traffic, or the "kilometer point" where it is closed (you look on the road and you know where you are and in which exact point).

But it is not usual to say 9,550 km. In fact... they usually says in 9,5 km or... you put the signal somewhere before and says "in 10 km".


I think that best translation will be "Attention, road closed within 9,550 km"... or "Attencion, road closed in 9,550 km". but you know that in different languages, the translation is not always perfect.
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