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Old August 13th, 2012, 06:07 AM   #1061
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So, what's the speed limit here?

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I think it's like speed limit signs in Québec which post a maximum and minimum speed limit on their freeways. The 50 is larger than the 30, so it would seem that they were trying to convey that idea without words.
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Old August 13th, 2012, 11:29 AM   #1062
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I think it's like speed limit signs in Québec which post a maximum and minimum speed limit on their freeways. The 50 is larger than the 30, so it would seem that they were trying to convey that idea without words.
No, we don't have that here. There is no way to my knowledge to put up a minimum speed limit here, except to put it in text. And I've never seen that.
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Old August 13th, 2012, 11:40 AM   #1063
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Everyone may drive at 50. The rest only at 30.
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Old August 13th, 2012, 12:20 PM   #1064
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I think it's like speed limit signs in Québec which post a maximum and minimum speed limit on their freeways. The 50 is larger than the 30, so it would seem that they were trying to convey that idea without words.
this would be indicated like this:

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Old August 13th, 2012, 02:03 PM   #1065
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While we're on the subject of odd speed limit signs, I noticed quite a few of these 45-limit signs while driving in France this summer. I've never seen them anywhere else.

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Old September 28th, 2012, 02:43 AM   #1066
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Old September 28th, 2012, 03:07 AM   #1067
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For historical correctness, this is not the Iron Curtain ("From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, an iron curtain has descended across the Continent"). I don't remember what happened on 22.12.1989, but knowing German cynicism and the tendency to audaciously rewrite history to fit their view, I'd completely ignore this sign's educational value.
The Iron Curtain started by Lübeck, not Stettin/Szczecin, so Churchill was wrong anyway. The Iron Curtain was a symbol of not allowing citizens to travel abroad and keeping them trapped in their countries, which wasn't the case in Yugoslavia.
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Old September 28th, 2012, 03:37 AM   #1068
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Was Churchill wrong? Had the situation in Germany settled at that point? I think that speech was in 1946 (although I may be wrong there) and there wasn't an East Germany yet, just a Soviet-occupied zone....
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Old September 28th, 2012, 06:43 AM   #1069
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Churchill contradicted himself by using Stettin/Szczecin and at the same time saying Berlin was behind the Iron Curtain (as well as Vienna). Anyway, Yugoslavia was still Soviet-dominated in 1946, but that changed only 2 years later (well before Austria got rid of Soviets, for example).
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Old September 28th, 2012, 09:34 AM   #1070
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Churchill contradicted himself by using Stettin/Szczecin and at the same time saying Berlin was behind the Iron Curtain (as well as Vienna). Anyway, Yugoslavia was still Soviet-dominated in 1946, but that changed only 2 years later (well before Austria got rid of Soviets, for example).
Not the entire Austria, but only Vienna region was occupied by soviets until 1955, right?
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Old September 28th, 2012, 10:20 AM   #1071
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Old September 28th, 2012, 10:56 AM   #1072
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Not the entire Austria, but only Vienna region was occupied by soviets until 1955, right?
it was a bit more, you can see it here:

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Old September 28th, 2012, 11:55 AM   #1073
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I bet virtually no Dutchman has knowledge of this. Most only know the sectors in Berlin.
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Old September 28th, 2012, 01:07 PM   #1074
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Old September 28th, 2012, 04:56 PM   #1075
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The only thing I know about that period of time was that austrian women got raped randomly by the occupiers (Allies) in the vienna region.

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Old September 28th, 2012, 05:43 PM   #1076
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it was a bit more, you can see it here:
Guess which side of the Yugoslav-Burgenland border was better between 1948 and 1955.
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Old September 28th, 2012, 06:28 PM   #1077
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From 1948 (Yugo-Soviet split) to 1961 (Sino-Soviet split) perhaps the Albanian borders could be considered a detached piece of the iron curtain?
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Old September 29th, 2012, 12:25 AM   #1078
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I bet virtually no Dutchman has knowledge of this. Most only know the sectors in Berlin.
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Old September 29th, 2012, 02:43 PM   #1079
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The Iron Curtain started by Lübeck, not Stettin/Szczecin, so Churchill was wrong anyway.
When Churchill spoke those words, Germany hadn't been divided yet.
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When Churchill spoke those words, Germany hadn't been divided yet.
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