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Old January 12th, 2014, 02:55 AM   #1421
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In my opinion, a more important question than font is the decision on whether to use all-uppercase letters or not. It's easier to read but it takes more space - which in turn makes the reading slower...

However, I think I like uppercase letters more, at least on place names on destination signs. Other words, such as "centre", "airport" etc. could be lowercase to make them easier to recognise (when pictograms are not used for those).
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Old January 12th, 2014, 04:16 AM   #1422
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Treviso (Italy): dangerous intersection, drive carefully. They were painted by the municipality few years ago in every dangerous intersection.
Are you sure that this means dangerous intersection? Could be something like pirates crossing
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Old January 13th, 2014, 04:03 PM   #1423
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In my opinion, a more important question than font is the decision on whether to use all-uppercase letters or not. It's easier to read but it takes more space - which in turn makes the reading slower...

However, I think I like uppercase letters more, at least on place names on destination signs. Other words, such as "centre", "airport" etc. could be lowercase to make them easier to recognise (when pictograms are not used for those).
Supposedly (underline supposedly), the brain processes uppercase letters one at a time but processes words that are written in lower case a word at a time. Therefore much faster.

Which is why U.S. signage standards are now encouraging, if not mandating, states, cities, etc., to switch away from all-uppercase on things like street name signs. (It's happening in Philadelphia now; every time they replace a street name sign, they do it in lower case.)
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Old January 13th, 2014, 04:33 PM   #1424
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Lowercase letters are indeed easier and faster to read. Bigger is not necessarily better, the typeface and casing is more important than the exact size.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 06:08 PM   #1425
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This maybe one problem, they have bad typeface, with an uppercase style and a really, REALLY small size (just compare it with the white sign on the back):


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This sign just recently put up last month, and you can find so many this new "type" elsewhere in Jakarta
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What's that? Sign for ants?
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Old January 13th, 2014, 11:29 PM   #1427
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Eagles... They have really good vision, unlike humans...
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Old January 15th, 2014, 12:35 AM   #1428
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its not realy a sign but its funny
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Old January 15th, 2014, 01:23 PM   #1429
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Supposedly (underline supposedly), the brain processes uppercase letters one at a time but processes words that are written in lower case a word at a time. Therefore much faster.
Never noticed this. Then again, it might be a matter of getting used to one system or another; having lived my life in a country with all-uppercase signs, I find this system good. The letters can also be distinguished from each other on a longer distance.

I guess being somehow familiar with the area (in other words, knowing what names to expect) also helps in either case.

Of course we're only talking about fractions of a second; on motorway that might mean several metres, though.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 06:31 PM   #1430
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Old January 15th, 2014, 08:53 PM   #1432
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Never noticed this. Then again, it might be a matter of getting used to one system or another; having lived my life in a country with all-uppercase signs, I find this system good. The letters can also be distinguished from each other on a longer distance.

I guess being somehow familiar with the area (in other words, knowing what names to expect) also helps in either case.

Of course we're only talking about fractions of a second; on motorway that might mean several metres, though.
Well, I do know the Cyrillic and Greek alphabets, even if I don't know any words to speak of in any of the languages that use them, but when I see (here) place names and so on written in those alphabets, I read them much, much more slowly than I do place names in a Latin-alphabet language I don't know. Whether it's upper-case or lower doesn't matter. So that may be an example of my brain processing letters rather than words....
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Well, I do know the Cyrillic and Greek alphabets, even if I don't know any words to speak of in any of the languages that use them
i'm sure that you know at least κῦδος
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Old January 16th, 2014, 02:27 PM   #1434
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Never noticed this. Then again, it might be a matter of getting used to one system or another; having lived my life in a country with all-uppercase signs, I find this system good. The letters can also be distinguished from each other on a longer distance.

I guess being somehow familiar with the area (in other words, knowing what names to expect) also helps in either case.

Of course we're only talking about fractions of a second; on motorway that might mean several metres, though.
The readability is a function of several aspects, like fonts, size of letters, colors, placement of elements, frames, numbers of names, number of languages, sign repetition, etc. The uppercase/mixed case question is only one factor among others.

For example, I see the German way to use both narrow and wide fonts in the same sign makes the signs less readable, even if there are good reasons to do that.

The Finnish system turned somewhat problematic at the revision during the 1990's. Adding colour coding etc is a good idea, but the benefits may turn negative if various elements are used excessively.



Here we find four colors(Earlier there were five ones, but the road number 60 on yellow background was dropped.) Then there is a 3-layered patch: white on blue on green, with a border line around blue.



Excessive framing and putting the road numbers in their own boxes makes the signs rather busy.



The colouring rules are somewhat complex, and all the sign makers are not capable on following those. Of these three signs, only the middle one is correct. The black arrow on white background is allowed only when the main field is white and there is no road number to be shown. The multi-coloured setup should display a white arrow on a blue background even if no other fiels is blue.



This one is correct.
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Old January 19th, 2014, 12:28 AM   #1435
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Both are from Maribor, Slovenia

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Old January 19th, 2014, 12:59 AM   #1436
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In Novi Sad, sign says "Stop bitch".

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Old January 19th, 2014, 01:16 AM   #1437
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Both are from Maribor, Slovenia


Btw, the second sign should read "šola za življenje", not "žilvjenje" (school for life ).
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Old January 19th, 2014, 01:21 AM   #1438
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In Novi Sad, sign says "Stop bitch".

You read it exactly like that in Romanian, it's only written "Stai curvo" (though I'm guessing aa only want's to prolong the verb, so you can write it in Romanian too like that)
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I don't know why, but I read "CONA" as a bad word, I guess like "con" in French
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You read it exactly like that in Romanian, it's only written "Stai curvo" (though I'm guessing aa only want's to prolong the verb, so you can write it in Romanian too like that)
It's "stani", not "staai".
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