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Old December 18th, 2007, 01:36 AM   #1
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Does Chicago have any areas with Manhattan type density?

If so,what are the stats.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 01:44 AM   #2
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Population density or built environment density?
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Old December 18th, 2007, 01:46 AM   #3
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The loop is like midtown Manhattan as an office area, but not that busy after dark. Immediatley to the North, across the Chicago river, is the Near North side. This is similar to high rise residential Manhattan in density, though not as dense as the upper East side. This lies between the Chicago river and North avenue. North of this is Lincoln Park, which is more like Greenwich Village in density. Chicago has a density of around 12k a square mile. NY is 25k and Manhattan 65k.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 01:59 AM   #4
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Old December 18th, 2007, 02:18 AM   #5
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The loop is like midtown Manhattan as an office area, but not that busy after dark. Immediatley to the North, across the Chicago river, is the Near North side. This is similar to high rise residential Manhattan in density, though not as dense as the upper East side. This lies between the Chicago river and North avenue. North of this is Lincoln Park, which is more like Greenwich Village in density. Chicago has a density of around 12k a square mile. NY is 25k and Manhattan 65k.
Bones, don't you think that no longer applies to the East Loop? The old days of the Loop being strictly commercial are long gone and vintage old offices gone condo and new towers have brought life and high income to Michigan, Wabash, and State. These areas are no LaSalle Street today.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 04:17 AM   #6
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Bones, don't you think that no longer applies to the East Loop? The old days of the Loop being strictly commercial are long gone and vintage old offices gone condo and new towers have brought life and high income to Michigan, Wabash, and State. These areas are no LaSalle Street today.
There are more people living in the loop, but it's still pretty dead at night.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 04:19 AM   #7
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Thanks guys,new to the forum.Hydrogen I meant both.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 05:56 AM   #8
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There are more people living in the loop, but it's still pretty dead at night.
Relatively speaking sure...but compared to the Loop of old the place is jumping now!
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Old December 18th, 2007, 07:59 AM   #9
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Relatively speaking sure...but compared to the Loop of old the place is jumping now!
I agree with this. From what I've heard, once upon a time the Loop was dead after 6 PM. Now it looks lively through the evening.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 09:32 AM   #10
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Besides stats, I found a few other comparisons:

The Loop to compare to Midtown Manhattan density (btw, rank of top three biggest central business districts in order in U.S. is Midtown Manhattan, Loop, Lower Manhattan)



A view from farther out of downtown density:



I notice Central Park is crowded; here is a rather lively beach (sorry, which one is this? Lakeview?) Beaches get livelier; I've seen it with my own eyes, but here's one anyway:



I was also looking for a pic with lots of Chicago taxis (granted they're not all one color like new york) but I couldn't find one that did Chicago justice

Anyways, hope it helped
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Old December 18th, 2007, 03:07 PM   #11
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I honestly feel that many parts of the loop are just as dense as parts of manhatten...many times you probaly couldnt tell the difference unless you really pay attention to the details. The loop has narrower streets than manhatten which gives it that darker and denser feel, even though manhatten has taller skyscrapers. And just wait till all those resiential building get completed and people actually start moving into to them...the area will be booming before you know it.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 03:20 PM   #12
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thats my photo! great density in that photo. River North also has great density, but maybe not the best architecture.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 05:04 PM   #13
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I honestly feel that many parts of the loop are just as dense as parts of manhatten...many times you probaly couldnt tell the difference unless you really pay attention to the details..
Sure, there are a few streets in Chicago that can come close to Manhatten Density. However, walk a few blocks off Michigan Ave or Lasalle and its easy to tell your not in Manhatten.


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The loop has narrower streets than manhatten which gives it that darker and denser feel, even though manhatten has taller skyscrapers. And just wait till all those resiential building get completed and people actually start moving into to them...the area will be booming before you know it.
Your comparing the Loop to the entire Borrough of Manhatten? Lower Manhatten and Midtown has a MUCH MUCH denser feel than The Loop.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 05:04 PM   #14
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The loop area of Chicago is as densely built up as lower Manhattan. The rest of Chicago is comparable to outer bouroughs like Queens and Staten Island.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 05:06 PM   #15
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The loop area of Chicago is as densely built up as lower Manhattan. The rest of Chicago is comparable to outer bouroughs like Queens and Staten Island.
Queens and S.I. are worlds apart...Chicago doesn't really have any areas comparable to Queens.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 05:15 PM   #16
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North of this is Lincoln Park, which is more like Greenwich Village in density. Chicago has a density of around 12k a square mile. NY is 25k and Manhattan 65k.

Lincoln Park Population Density= 21,163/sq. Mi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Park%2C_Chicago

Greenwich Village Population Density = 60,000/sq. Mi
http://demographia.com/db-nyc-warddensch.htm

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Old December 18th, 2007, 10:01 PM   #17
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Queens and S.I. are worlds apart...Chicago doesn't really have any areas comparable to Queens.
i see Chicago density different than you guys do. I see this linear region from the far north side on to the mid and beginning parts of the far South Side (hell...let's call it from Devon down to South Shore) of high rises that not only face directly to the lakefront parks and beaches but inland a series of blocks as well. In the middle of this strip from North Avenue down to Cermak, the downtown area shoots higher and extends considerably more inland.

So I'm calling it this way:

Dense Chicago is like a boa constrictor that just swalowled a rat. It streches itself long and comfortable and that rat in the middle is this big hump that has not quite been digested yet.

I hope I haven't gotten too graphic on this one.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 10:12 PM   #18
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I feel you need some imagary ed.
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Old December 18th, 2007, 10:36 PM   #19
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wow that is a badass pano
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Old December 19th, 2007, 12:30 AM   #20
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It's asymmetric how there's a gradual rise from the North side, with huge skyscrapers downtown, bookended by the massive Sears Tower, but then very little towards the South.
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