#Scrapped: French Quarter Towers - 2x60st/mixed & 27st/112m/office

Locke · February 9th, 2007, 01:28 AM

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Locke · February 9th, 2007, 01:39 AM

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KJBrissy · February 9th, 2007, 03:20 AM

The thing I don't get about this story is how they said that they'll wait till the height limits increase and then lodge an application. The height limits along the blocks bordered by Alice and Margaret Streets, even in the CBD Masterplan, were always going to have low limits.

That aside it sounds promising, although I don't know if I trust Devine with a 6 star resi tower?

BTW, where is this site exactly?

drifter269 · February 9th, 2007, 03:48 AM

Devine 6 star probably means 6 star quality concrete. Hope they get it right. Not too sure where this site is either. If its a prime site, it really needs some height to it

alchemy · February 9th, 2007, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke

Mr Devine said it was a complex transaction but well worth it for the outcome achieved. "Development concepts are now being formulated with an international design competition to be conducted," he said.

cnr alice & albert sts, directly opposite the botanic gardens.. wonderful site.

KJBrissy · February 9th, 2007, 04:07 AM

Is it where those bodgey units are next door to the Quay West Hotel here:

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Originally Posted by SoulVision

Maybe they should have a twisting tower like Baroque here???

neilo63 · February 9th, 2007, 04:19 AM

i would be very surprised if they built anything above 4 star on an international standard, how bullshit they can up the hype and say 6 star... call me skeptical if you will. Dubai/New york these are the places to set the 6 star benchmark.

KJBrissy · February 9th, 2007, 04:21 AM

Although if we were to get 6 star...this is where it would be. Overlooking the Parklands toward the river. I agree though neilo63, I think they are overhyping to gets some free advertising, and it is Devine when all is said and done, the masters of cheap!

Locke · February 9th, 2007, 04:34 AM

On the whole I am quite positive about this one funnily enough. If we did want Devine to change then this is exactly how - six stars and an international design competition. It might not be the Burj Al Arab but it's hard to go too wrong with that combo.

I'll wait till I see the designs before drawing judgment, but still, it's a move in the right direction, gotta pay em that.

Brizzy-Mike · February 9th, 2007, 04:47 AM

I think that eyesore across the road, the Royal, will not help sales. The Royal site is the best one. Sooner someone does something interesting there that ties the cbd to the botanic gardens the better.

KJBrissy · February 9th, 2007, 04:49 AM

Exactly...Although I think this particular site looks a hell of a lot worse than the Royal site!

Having Vision with 50-100m away could also help to counteract bad sales from local dodgey buildings!

rivercity · February 9th, 2007, 04:55 AM

International design comp sounds gd. However I doubt Devine and its understandings on the design side of 'international design'. Just because its international - doesn't necessarily mean it will great.
Speaking of 6-star hotels...and a site next to gardens; my mind conjures up stuff along the lines of Sheraton On The Park in Sydney - but - shock! horror! in Brisbane! ... on this site!! wouldn't that be great.

brissieroy · February 9th, 2007, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke

On the whole I am quite positive about this one funnily enough. If we did want Devine to change then this is exactly how - six stars and an international design competition. It might not be the Burj Al Arab but it's hard to go too wrong with that combo.

I'll wait till I see the designs before drawing judgment, but still, it's a move in the right direction, gotta pay em that.

I'm with you on this one, Locke...

alchemy · February 9th, 2007, 08:19 AM

that's the site KJ

Brissy4me · February 9th, 2007, 09:07 AM

This sounds promising, I think it should be a medium height to blend well with the botanic gardens and edge of the city. Remember that design is better than height, we want this to be aesthetically (can't spel) pleasing - especially with devine involved. Although, the international design competition sounds great!! This could also put Brisbane on the map along with vision and others.

Has Brisbane had an international design comp. for anything??

bribri · February 9th, 2007, 10:41 AM

I guess they can go at least as high as Quay West.

Aussie Bhoy · February 9th, 2007, 11:11 AM

I think this is the building

Locke · February 9th, 2007, 11:41 AM

Cheers Aussie Bhoy.

Looks like they could probably go quite tall going off the masterplan projection below (which is just a base anyway).

However i think cost will sooner be a determining factor in height on this one, $250 mill ain't that much, Charlotte towers projected value was $170 million. Given this is meant to be six stars and is projected at $250 million it seems likely to be 140-200m max, probably at the lower end of the scale. Course if it's a hot design then I hope it's taller.

Maroon Grown · February 9th, 2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Bhoy

I think this is the building

nope. its to the left. very similar building though.

Orfeo · February 9th, 2007, 03:33 PM

Given that the site is very close to the park and not that large, I doubt anything particularly tall will be built. As long as it's over about 130m and a wonderful design, i'll be happy.....should fill a gap in the skyline nicely.

February 9th, 2007, 01:28 AM	#1
Locke alright, kick-ass Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,367 Likes (Received): 180	#Scrapped: French Quarter Towers - 2x60st/mixed & 27st/112m/office .. __________________ You had me at meat tornado. Last edited by Locke; March 8th, 2007 at 02:50 AM.

February 9th, 2007, 01:39 AM	#2
Locke alright, kick-ass Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,367 Likes (Received): 180	.. __________________ You had me at meat tornado. Last edited by Locke; March 8th, 2007 at 02:14 AM.

February 9th, 2007, 03:20 AM	#3
KJBrissy ........... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,333 Likes (Received): 133	The thing I don't get about this story is how they said that they'll wait till the height limits increase and then lodge an application. The height limits along the blocks bordered by Alice and Margaret Streets, even in the CBD Masterplan, were always going to have low limits. That aside it sounds promising, although I don't know if I trust Devine with a 6 star resi tower? BTW, where is this site exactly? __________________ "Traditionally what has hurt people has not been rising interest rates but rising unemployment. I don't care what rate you're paying, if you have a mortgage five times your income and you lose your job, you're toast." Gerard Minack, chief economist at Morgan Stanley.

February 9th, 2007, 04:19 AM	#7
neilo63 NOD Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane, Posts: 1,188 Likes (Received): 12	i would be very surprised if they built anything above 4 star on an international standard, how bullshit they can up the hype and say 6 star... call me skeptical if you will. Dubai/New york these are the places to set the 6 star benchmark. __________________ Surrounded by mediocre boxes.... Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful Warren Buffett

February 9th, 2007, 04:21 AM	#8
KJBrissy ........... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,333 Likes (Received): 133	Although if we were to get 6 star...this is where it would be. Overlooking the Parklands toward the river. I agree though neilo63, I think they are overhyping to gets some free advertising, and it is Devine when all is said and done, the masters of cheap! __________________ "Traditionally what has hurt people has not been rising interest rates but rising unemployment. I don't care what rate you're paying, if you have a mortgage five times your income and you lose your job, you're toast." Gerard Minack, chief economist at Morgan Stanley.

February 9th, 2007, 03:48 AM	#4
drifter269 The Brisbane Edge Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 115 Likes (Received): 0	Devine 6 star probably means 6 star quality concrete. Hope they get it right. Not too sure where this site is either. If its a prime site, it really needs some height to it

February 9th, 2007, 04:34 AM	#9
Locke alright, kick-ass Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,367 Likes (Received): 180	On the whole I am quite positive about this one funnily enough. If we did want Devine to change then this is exactly how - six stars and an international design competition. It might not be the Burj Al Arab but it's hard to go too wrong with that combo. I'll wait till I see the designs before drawing judgment, but still, it's a move in the right direction, gotta pay em that. __________________ You had me at meat tornado.

February 9th, 2007, 04:47 AM	#10
Brizzy-Mike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 933 Likes (Received): 0	I think that eyesore across the road, the Royal, will not help sales. The Royal site is the best one. Sooner someone does something interesting there that ties the cbd to the botanic gardens the better.

February 9th, 2007, 04:49 AM	#11
KJBrissy ........... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,333 Likes (Received): 133	Exactly...Although I think this particular site looks a hell of a lot worse than the Royal site! Having Vision with 50-100m away could also help to counteract bad sales from local dodgey buildings! __________________ "Traditionally what has hurt people has not been rising interest rates but rising unemployment. I don't care what rate you're paying, if you have a mortgage five times your income and you lose your job, you're toast." Gerard Minack, chief economist at Morgan Stanley.

February 9th, 2007, 04:55 AM	#12
rivercity brisbanite Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 185 Likes (Received): 0	International design comp sounds gd. However I doubt Devine and its understandings on the design side of 'international design'. Just because its international - doesn't necessarily mean it will great. Speaking of 6-star hotels...and a site next to gardens; my mind conjures up stuff along the lines of Sheraton On The Park in Sydney - but - shock! horror! in Brisbane! ... on this site!! wouldn't that be great.

February 9th, 2007, 08:19 AM	#14
alchemy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 264 Likes (Received): 0	that's the site KJ

February 9th, 2007, 09:07 AM	#15
Brissy4me Come as you are... Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,527 Likes (Received): 0	This sounds promising, I think it should be a medium height to blend well with the botanic gardens and edge of the city. Remember that design is better than height, we want this to be aesthetically (can't spel) pleasing - especially with devine involved. Although, the international design competition sounds great!! This could also put Brisbane on the map along with vision and others. Has Brisbane had an international design comp. for anything?? __________________ I don't recall saying that.

February 9th, 2007, 10:41 AM	#16
bribri Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: brisbane, australia Posts: 939 Likes (Received): 40	I guess they can go at least as high as Quay West.

February 9th, 2007, 11:11 AM	#17
Aussie Bhoy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,012 Likes (Received): 76	I think this is the building

February 9th, 2007, 11:41 AM	#18
Locke alright, kick-ass Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,367 Likes (Received): 180	Cheers Aussie Bhoy. Looks like they could probably go quite tall going off the masterplan projection below (which is just a base anyway). However i think cost will sooner be a determining factor in height on this one, $250 mill ain't that much, Charlotte towers projected value was $170 million. Given this is meant to be six stars and is projected at $250 million it seems likely to be 140-200m max, probably at the lower end of the scale. Course if it's a hot design then I hope it's taller. __________________ You had me at meat tornado.

February 9th, 2007, 03:33 PM	#20
Orfeo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,392 Likes (Received): 14	Given that the site is very close to the park and not that large, I doubt anything particularly tall will be built. As long as it's over about 130m and a wonderful design, i'll be happy.....should fill a gap in the skyline nicely.

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