Scotland to build World's most expensive bridge - Page 2

cinosanap · January 2nd, 2008, 12:16 PM

I think that is just to give people an example of the look of it. The final bridge is still to be designed as far as I am aware.

33Hz · January 3rd, 2008, 03:22 PM

Yes this bridge is truly needed, but that is no excuse to hold the country to ransom. There is no way this bridge should even cost over £1bn, yet alone £4bn...

The centre pylon is to be built on an existing rock (Beamer Rock), which shipping clearly has to avoid anyway. As to protection, like you say this is an artist's impression and the final design will likely change.

***Jonesy55*** · January 3rd, 2008, 03:30 PM

£4bn is ridiculous, that's £2bn per km!!!!

That's ten times as expensive per Km than the Channel Tunnel ffs which cost £0.2bn per km (£10bn for 50km).

I know that was a few years ago but this is a ridiculous amount of money that could be much better spent on transport in Scotland.

DJZG · January 4th, 2008, 09:20 AM

lol... this is funny... 5.8bln €... omg... you're crazyier than our goverment

GlasgowMan · January 6th, 2008, 05:31 PM

Oh look, the Scottish Parliament and literally throwing our money away, AGAIN!!! When will they stop wasting our money?

Jaeger · January 6th, 2008, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuscani01

Looks like Scotland is also being ripped off. What about it is worth $8 Billion US?

The Bridge is made of pure gold and the road will be diamond encrusted, whilst the supports are to be made of platinium. All in all $8 Billion seems very reasonable.

GlasgowMan · January 6th, 2008, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaeger

The Bridge is made of pure gold and the road will be diamond encrusted, whilst the supports are to be made of platinium. All in all $8 Billion seems very reasonable.

Nah, even with all that it’s still over prices, plus you know it will end-up a few decades behind schedule...

clyde built · January 7th, 2008, 05:05 PM

Total rip of again. This is what happens when you give ideot's power and you live in a country were the electrit would vote for a blow up doll as long as it was Labour/SNP depending on the region.

***The Boy David*** · January 12th, 2008, 02:48 PM

Yep, £4 Billion - no one in Scotland can understand why it's costing so much money...

The first forth road bridge, the suspension one, was built in 1960 and cost... £40 million! Even allowing for inflation and new infrastructure, there is no way the bridge can realistically cost £4 billion!

However, the Forth estuary does experience strong tidal movements, and so the bridges need to be hugely overengineered to withstand the tides and the strong North Sea winds. Just look at the Forth Railway bridge - it's been engineered so strong, it could actually support hanging the the deck of the existing forth road bridge full of cars and still carry trains across it!.

Anyway, I think this is what the bridge is more likely going to look like:

What a sight, though!!

Alargule · January 12th, 2008, 02:57 PM

Looks amazing indeed. But still: why the huge costs? Has the pound devaluated that much?

cinosanap · January 12th, 2008, 08:03 PM

The politicians probably said that so that they look good when the bridge comes in at a much lower price!

GlasgowMan · January 13th, 2008, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinosanap

The politicians probably said that so that they look good when the bridge comes in at a much lower price!

haha, now that does sound like something then SNP would do...

33Hz · January 13th, 2008, 10:03 PM

If it comes in 10 times cheaper, even the daftest voter will smell a rat...

H123Laci · January 21st, 2008, 11:29 AM

Hi guys!

I think the 4bn is for the tunnel option (it would be far longer than 2km...)

(but it is too much yet for a 10km long 4 tubes tunnel (2 for cars, 2 for trains)

Journalists are stupid all over the word...

***ChrisZwolle*** · January 21st, 2008, 11:48 AM

4 billion pound i pretty darn expensive for such an average (looking) bridge. Is there a strong current or something? Some countries build 600 miles of motorway for that amount of money...

cinosanap · January 21st, 2008, 07:57 PM

The bridge design has not been decided upon. Those are only to give people an idea of what it will look like.

sapmi · January 24th, 2008, 01:19 AM

Thats a hell of a lot money for that little bridge.

Gutovsky · January 24th, 2008, 08:55 PM

This thread should instead be called: "World's biggest waste of money in Scotland". It's a beautiful bridge, but there is no way it should be that expensive. Isn't there ANY other solution? I sincerely hope you can avoid such theft, and do much better things with it than a single bridge, no matter how beautiful it is.

33Hz · February 25th, 2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Boy David

Anyway, I think this is what the bridge is more likely going to look like:

What a sight, though!!

They changed the URL

33Hz · February 25th, 2008, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H123Laci

Hi guys!

I think the 4bn is for the tunnel option (it would be far longer than 2km...)

(but it is too much yet for a 10km long 4 tubes tunnel (2 for cars, 2 for trains)

Journalists are stupid all over the word...

No, this is the figure released by the SNP and it is for the bridge. See:

http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/...heet-Dec07.pdf

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*The Boy David* Registered Win Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kyoto Posts: 3,660 Likes (Received): 15	Yep, £4 Billion - no one in Scotland can understand why it's costing so much money... The first forth road bridge, the suspension one, was built in 1960 and cost... £40 million! Even allowing for inflation and new infrastructure, there is no way the bridge can realistically cost £4 billion! However, the Forth estuary does experience strong tidal movements, and so the bridges need to be hugely overengineered to withstand the tides and the strong North Sea winds. Just look at the Forth Railway bridge - it's been engineered so strong, it could actually support hanging the the deck of the existing forth road bridge full of cars and still carry trains across it!. Anyway, I think this is what the bridge is more likely going to look like: What a sight, though!! __________________ On the run, 'til we're caught, in New York

January 12th, 2008, 02:57 PM	#30
Alargule riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: La Guerla Posts: 4,904	Looks amazing indeed. But still: why the huge costs? Has the pound devaluated that much? __________________ NederlandMetro

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*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 28,790 Likes (Received): 460	4 billion pound i pretty darn expensive for such an average (looking) bridge. Is there a strong current or something? Some countries build 600 miles of motorway for that amount of money... __________________ Visit the Highways & Autobahns section! my clinched highways • highway pictures @ Flickr and Youtube

January 3rd, 2008, 03:22 PM	#22
33Hz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 317 Likes (Received): 0	Yes this bridge is truly needed, but that is no excuse to hold the country to ransom. There is no way this bridge should even cost over £1bn, yet alone £4bn... The centre pylon is to be built on an existing rock (Beamer Rock), which shipping clearly has to avoid anyway. As to protection, like you say this is an artist's impression and the final design will likely change.

January 4th, 2008, 09:20 AM	#24
DJZG ...rodjen na Balkanu... Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Zagreb, HR Posts: 795 Likes (Received): 0	lol... this is funny... 5.8bln €... omg... you're crazyier than our goverment

January 7th, 2008, 05:05 PM	#28
clyde built Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 99 Likes (Received): 0	Total rip of again. This is what happens when you give ideot's power and you live in a country were the electrit would vote for a blow up doll as long as it was Labour/SNP depending on the region.

January 13th, 2008, 10:03 PM	#33
33Hz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 317 Likes (Received): 0	If it comes in 10 times cheaper, even the daftest voter will smell a rat...

January 21st, 2008, 11:29 AM	#34
H123Laci BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Budapest, HUN Posts: 1,703 Likes (Received): 0	Hi guys! I think the 4bn is for the tunnel option (it would be far longer than 2km...) (but it is too much yet for a 10km long 4 tubes tunnel (2 for cars, 2 for trains) Journalists are stupid all over the word...

January 24th, 2008, 01:19 AM	#37
sapmi BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,107 Likes (Received): 0	Thats a hell of a lot money for that little bridge.

January 24th, 2008, 08:55 PM	#38
Gutovsky Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: São Paulo Posts: 3,819 Likes (Received): 387	This thread should instead be called: "World's biggest waste of money in Scotland". It's a beautiful bridge, but there is no way it should be that expensive. Isn't there ANY other solution? I sincerely hope you can avoid such theft, and do much better things with it than a single bridge, no matter how beautiful it is. __________________ Leave a message after the doom.

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