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Old January 19th, 2013, 12:18 PM   #301
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North Korea has always fascinated me... always. I find it fascinating that they ACTUALLY have motorways given the fact that from what I have seen there are not a lot of cars in North Korea.

Really interesting pics and a really interesting thread.

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Those huge capacity roads were built for military purposes. In case of war the army could mobilize fast and the endless river of army vehicles could flow undisturbed and unstoppably towards the south.
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Old January 19th, 2013, 12:40 PM   #302
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Those huge capacity roads were built for military purposes. In case of war the army could mobilize fast and the endless river of army vehicles could flow undisturbed and unstoppably towards the south.
For the same reason Hitler built a lot of autobahnnen.
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Old January 20th, 2013, 11:19 AM   #303
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There has long been a perceived downside of building motorways, in that they would allowing an invading country to progress quickly. The nazi regime was against motorways originally for this very reason, even the three Western allies were conscious building east-west motorways through the FRG post-1945. Not sure whether there have been any similar discussions in North Korea and what drove the decisions to build the network as it stands. The DPK is not exactly the country where such reasonings are readily available to the public ...
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Old January 20th, 2013, 11:59 AM   #304
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There has long been a perceived downside of building motorways, in that they would allowing an invading country to progress quickly. The nazi regime was against motorways originally for this very reason, even the three Western allies were conscious building east-west motorways through the FRG post-1945. Not sure whether there have been any similar discussions in North Korea and what drove the decisions to build the network as it stands. The DPK is not exactly the country where such reasonings are readily available to the public ...
Right now North Korea is expanding its motorways. (As seen by google satellite imagery). They are building a Morotway to Sinuiju at Chinese border and one along the Eastern Coast from Wonsan to the North. I think they are considering a sudden increase of private car ownership in the next few years now that the south Korean firm is sellin Pyonghwa factory to a chinese firm and they want to expand its capacity to 100'000 vehicles per day.
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Old January 20th, 2013, 12:59 PM   #305
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Those huge capacity roads were built for military purposes. In case of war the army could mobilize fast and the endless river of army vehicles could flow undisturbed and unstoppably towards the south.
Not so fast and not so uninterrupted after the South sends couple hundred missiles in that direction
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Old January 28th, 2013, 06:03 PM   #306
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There is now:
Pyongyang-Kaesong which is about 170 Km opened in 1992
Pyongyang-Wonsan which is about 190 Km opened in 1978
Pyongyang-Huichon which is about 138 Km with about 20 Km under construction
Pyongyang-Nampo which is about 49 Km opened in 1998
Wanson-Kumgang which is about 50 Km
Sariwon-Sinchun spur which is about 33 Km
Pyongyang-Sinuiju which has 55 Km concurrency with Pyongyag-Huichon and 332 Km is under construction
Also Wonsan-Hamhung is under construction
There is no motorway between Pyongyang and Wonsan, only certain sections of the road are wider, up to four lanes.
Also, the Pyongyang-Huichon motorway was never finished, it ends up roughly 100 km north of Pyongyang .
Pyongyang - Sinuiju is currently under construction, but the way they build it, it will take them roughly a couple of eons to finish it. The current road to Sinuiju is mostly unpaved.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #307
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Does somebody understand Korean so could tell us what they really talk in video?
Geez Fiat Siena I saw it few times here, mostly with polish plates
This car assembly plant was built in Nampho, and it was bankrolled by Sun Myong Mun's Unification Church. Basically they are assembling kits imported from Fiat plants in Vietnam, and some Chinese models. Even before car ownership was always allowed, in theory at least, but only the wealthiest North Koreans could buy them, and most of them are expat Koreans from Japan, members of the Chongryon who decided to come back. During the 80's they could buy cars like Dacia and Lada, but we are talking about no more than few hundred families. Now one can buy a car by registering it with some state-owned enterprise, which requires a lot of bribes.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 07:33 AM   #308
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Anyone who has the ability to do so, can you please add the Korean name 조선민주주의인민공화국의 도로와 고속도로 which would mean "Motorways and roads in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea"?? Thanks

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Old June 14th, 2013, 02:54 AM   #309
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A fun map I made by modifying the one in wikipedia and more obvious possible future road numbers inheriting from the south and possible connections to Chinese expressway network
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Old June 14th, 2013, 12:48 PM   #310
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For the same reason Hitler built a lot of autobahnnen.
I think the real reasons are probably mixed and more mundane. It's often forgotten that until the 1970s the DPRK economy had been performing well and in many ways was ahead of the South. Then it started to stagnate and later collapsed with the disintegration of the socialist block.

Therefore, many of the projects in North Korea reflect how things were in the 1950s-70s and how the country hoped things would go, rather than what actually happened. I doubt the North Korean leadership in those days imagined things would turn out as they have.
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Old June 14th, 2013, 03:21 PM   #311
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A fun map I made by modifying the one in wikipedia and more obvious possible future road numbers inheriting from the south and possible connections to Chinese expressway network
Feel the irony by the use of American Highway Shields...
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Old June 14th, 2013, 03:33 PM   #312
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Those are South Korean route number shields American ones look different.
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Old June 15th, 2013, 12:57 AM   #313
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Well, it is a possibility that if the North Korean government decides to use road numbers, they use European rectangular shields instead of american ones, because as we know all signs in south korea are green, therefore more american, and in north korea, there are blue signs for local roads and green signs for motorways, so they may keep this european style signage. Well, noone knows now, I just hope the Northern leaders decide to increase the standards of living of their people in the future.
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Old June 15th, 2013, 12:31 PM   #314
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The best possible scenario for NK would be a peaceful reunification with the South, like happened in Germany in 1989-90.
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Old June 15th, 2013, 06:30 PM   #315
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Thank you captain obvious, you saved the day
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Old June 15th, 2013, 06:37 PM   #316
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The best possible scenario for NK would be a peaceful reunification with the South, like happened in Germany in 1989-90.
The best scenario for NoKo, the worst for SoKo.
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Unless there is a major economical reform project that can increase the standard of living in NoKo to 4/5 of SoKo's 1980's, then it can be considered
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Old August 27th, 2013, 12:50 PM   #318
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Extremely congested Korean highway:


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Old August 27th, 2013, 11:39 PM   #319
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That doesn't really look like a highway to me .
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New bridge across the Yalu River at the border with China. The project is being funded by China.

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