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Old May 28th, 2009, 08:46 AM   #641
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This is a preliminary rendering for a project by Henderson Land in Suzhou. They say the maximum height is 300m, but imo it doesn't look taller than 250m. I'll list it in gray as an unclear supertall proposal.
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Old May 29th, 2009, 01:51 AM   #643
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WUXI | The Wharf Times Square | 339m, 83 floors. On hold – Ground works. Architect: SOM. Developer: The Wharf Holdings. Though started in late 2007, it has remained on hold for more than one year. According to recent rumors, it may be redesigned. Completion is scheduled for 2014. Project thread.
They posted this today, but no source was provided.

New design.
Height: 339m
Architect: AEDAS.
Start: November 2009
Completion: October 2013





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CHONGQING | Jiangbei CBD Supertalls | 500m, 380m, 360m. Concept proposal. The second core of Chongqing CBD will be located in Jiangbei. In late 2007, the government raised the maximum heights for its 3 key plots from 300m, 350m and 240m, located respectively at plots A13, A07 and A11. The three plots remain vacant as no developer has showed interest in them by the moment.
Jardine Matheson Group is interested in purchasing the A11 plot, whose preliminiary height is 360m.

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KUNSHAN | Huaqiao International Business City Supertall | 330m. Proposed – Under design. Architect: SCP Consultants. This proposal was launched in March 2008 as the coming landmark tower for Kunshan’s new financial area. The project is likely to be a long-term plan a no actual approval is expected anytime soon. SCP is designing the masterplan.
Some concept images of Kunshan CBD. This city is mostly a satellite town of both Shanghai and Suzhou, bordering Shanghai municipality. Around 400,000 urban inhabitants.








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Old May 30th, 2009, 01:37 AM   #646
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New one for Wuxi? Yansha Business Center (无锡燕莎商务中心), 70 floors. No height was released and no pics. Would be completed in 2013.
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Old May 31st, 2009, 01:57 PM   #647
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The lists have been updated. Two months since the previous update.

Supertall map.


Supertall ranking.


Supertall ranking by city.


The supertall boom is going crazier than ever:
April:
Supertall projects listed: 169
Excluding proposals: 104

June: 186
Excluding proposals: 105

Several projects changed from approved to under construction or from ground works to foundation works either.
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Old May 31st, 2009, 02:03 PM   #648
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whats the difference between proposed and conceptual proposal. They both are neither approved and hence not under construction so they both should be put in the same category of proposals.

Anyway a truly amazing way to sum up the activity i really loved it . I can't believe u had the patience to actually sit down and work this out. to your patience
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Concept proposals are just long term projects, sometimes the landkark tower of a whole masterplan which is still under planning, sometimes reserved plots for future developments. For example, the Shanghai Center plot (Z3-2) has been a "concept proposal" for many years as we already knew that they would build a supertall there soon or late.

They become formal Proposals once we get some concrete news about the developer, the construction schedule or the actual design.

Approved is another controversial status, normally I'd say a project is approved once it is "confirmed" in a way. That happens when any of these conditions is fulfilled:
- They celebrate a formal ground breaking ceremony. Sometimes they do this even before releasing the design.
- They release a construction start date.
- We know both the developer and the architect. A developer may just propose a supertall, same for an architect. But once a developer and an architecture firm are working together in a project in my opinion we can say that it is approved/confirmed.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 04:45 PM   #651
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Thx for the list again , i'm always impressed when i see it
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Old June 1st, 2009, 05:04 PM   #652
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Yes, thnx z0rg. great work once again.
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not much new stuff though, dragon tower then a 400+ concept proposal and a few other. What happening to all the new projects ?!?!?
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Old June 1st, 2009, 06:00 PM   #654
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Wow, I think they are booming again, just check the last pages!
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SHENYANG | Shenyang Eton Center | 400m, 88 floors; 300m, 58 floors. Approved. Architect: John Portman. Developer: Eton Properties. Located in Shenhe district, next to Hang Lung Plaza twin towers, this project will be started in mid-2009 according to recent releases. The final layout was decided in late 2008 after dismissing NBBJ’s proposal. The current height probably doesn’t include the spires in the main tower. Project thread.
Wow! I found more images of NBBJ proposal. We don't really know which version did they choose, we just guess they picked Portman's because the developer showed images of his version only in the latest press releases.

Anyway, here we have more images of NBBJ's version. They never released heights, but I bet they are both around 350-420m.





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Awesome chart and comparison. it would be perfect if the image is larger.

Shenyang, Tianjin, Wuhan, Shenzhen, Guangzhou have longer bars than others on the map.
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Hehe. Actually I've been thinking about posting larger maps with more details. Just wait for the next update.
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TIANJIN | TEDA First Street Project | 350m~, 80 floors. Proposed. Architect: Dennis Lau & Ng Chun Man Architects. Formerly a proposal for COFCO Tower plot, this proposal has been transferred to TEDA Area in early 2009.
Finally they added some facts to the profile. Far taller than expected.

Site Area : 27,772.35m²
Total Gross Floor Area : 330,000m²
Office Area : 150,000m²
Hotel Area : 60,000m²
Hotel Room No. : 300
Serviced Apartment Area : 120,000m²
No. of Storeys Above Ground : 96
No. of Podium Floors : 2
No. of Basement Floors : 3
Car Park No. : 2,000
Building Height : 430m

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CITY HEADS STILL STUCK IN THE CLOUDS
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As projects for new and unique super-structures across Europe and the United States are cancelled or delayed because of the global financial crisis, ambitious skyscraper plans in China remain unbounded.

Mainland cities continue to launch one grand design after another, while even second-tier cities with an abundance of land are looking to set new records for their regions and boost their image as modern hubs.

But critics of these man-made landmarks warn against the trend, branding needlessly tall buildings a "shallow and wasteful" way for a city to show off its prosperity, while warning the structures also pose a massive risk to the lives of those living or working inside because they are fragile in the face of disasters.

China's tallest building today is the Shanghai World Financial Center, which stands at 492m. But Wang Cuikun, an expert for the China Academy of Building Research, predicted the record would be smashed by at least two structures in excess of 600 m by 2014.

"One will be the Shanghai Tower, which has been designed to be 632 m in height and have 127 floors. Construction started last November," she told China Daily.

The tower, which is set for completion in five years, will stand in the city's Lujiazui financial area alongside the Shanghai World Financial Center and the 420-m-high Jin Mao Building, forming, as some have joked, a large "trident" in the Pudong district.

Shenzhen, a metropolis in the southern Guangdong province, is the proposed site for the second skyscraper, said Wang, with the 646-m Ping'an office tower now at the design stage and expected to be in operation in 2014.

Regardless of which project reaches the finish line first, both will surpass Asia's current tallest building, the 508-m-high Taipei 101 in Taiwan.

"Building a 300-m tower is an easy job nowadays," explained Wang. "China has mastered the technology to build super-tall structures and is leading the way in wind- and seismic-resistant designs for super-tall buildings."

The trend for tall has seen the skyline in Chinese cities grow higher faster. In Guangzhou, the capital of Guangdong province, the city's "tallest" crown went to Guangzhou West Tower last December. It stands at 432 m, but plans are already under way to top it by 56 m with an East Tower.

In the Jiangsu provincial capital of Nanjing, the lofty title was taken by the 249-m Xinbai building last July only for it to be dethroned by the Greenland Zifeng Tower, which is officially 200 m taller, just two months later.

Meanwhile, ultra-high buildings have been sprouting up in less developed regions of southwestern and northwestern China.

The new International Trade Center in Chongqing municipality will stand 455 m tall when it is finished, as well as become the tallest in west China. Skyscrapers of more than 300 m are also under construction in Shenyang and Dalian, Liaoning province, and in Tianjin municipality.

Most officials in cities that have skyscrapers claim the projects were not intended to break a record, although it is a widely held belief among the public that such projects are approved in order to raise a city's profile. But status symbols do not come cheap.

"The cost of building a 400-m tower is much, much more than building two 200-m buildings," said expert Wang, who explained skyscrapers need to be specially designed to ensure they are safe in the event of strong winds or earthquakes.

And while bustling metropolises such as Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou are justified in building super-tall buildings due to limited land resources and high property prices, Liu Jun, head of the Tianjin Institute of Architectural Design, told the People's Daily: "Second- and third-tier cities build skyscrapers more out of a concern for their image."

At 80 m, the Shanghai Park Hotel became the Far East's tallest building in 1934 and cut an imposing figure on the Old Shanghai skyline.

But as China's cities have becoming richer thanks to the reform and opening-up, which was instigated in 1978, they have increasingly set their sights on skyscrapers to reflect their economic power and image as a "developed" city.

"This is the most shallow interpretation of modernization," said Liu. "The super-tall building is actually uncomfortable to live with and causes problems concerning safety, environmental protection and energy saving."

He said Western nations had already abandoned the use of high structures to showcase their urban civilization or might on the world stage, focusing instead on constructing comfortable living spaces that compliment environments, not dominate them.

"It is time for China to think again about skyscrapers," he said.

Wang Jianguo, dean of the architecture school at Southeast University in Nanjing, agreed and urged the nation to change its mindset.

"City planners should not pursue an eye-catching skyline but create a friendly living environment for the people," he added.

The safety issues surrounding ultra-high buildings has also been questioned, with many experts saying that problems caused by the building of skyscrapers do not show up until many years later.

Wang Cuikun warned that explosions, earthquakes and poisonous gas leaks have a much more devastating and potentially fatal effect on super-tall buildings, a fact most people living or working inside would be ignorant to until a disaster occurred.

As well as major accidents, even a simple fire can easily escalate in an environment where it is still virtually impossible to contain quick-spreading flames.

During the 9/11 terrorist attack in New York City in 2001, workers were trapped from around the 90th floors of the twin World Trade Center towers by fire after the planes struck. The buildings then collapsed, with the final death toll estimated to be around 2,500, which included police and fire rescue officers.

And on Feb 9 this year in Beijing, a firefighter was killed as crews extinguished a blaze in a newly built, 30-story luxury building next to iconic China Central Television headquarters, which started during a fireworks display. The rescue worker had given his respirator to a victim trapped on the 14th floor.

"It is still a worldwide problem that there is no effective solution to fight a fire in super-tall buildings and make sure residents can escape safely," said Wang.

With skyscrapers, where workers or residents are often many meters from the ground, evacuation plans can only go so far.

In the wake of the 9/11 attack, an experiment carried out at the Shanghai Jin Mao Building, which was widely reported in the national media, saw safety managers time a team of firefighters as they ran down from the 85th floor to street level.

Those chosen for the test were young and physically tough - but the fastest still took 35 minutes to reach the ground.

Fire moves far more rapidly than people and experts say a blaze can spread from the first to the 33rd floor of a building in just 30 seconds with help from the wind.

Luo Qifeng, deputy director of the Shanghai Institute of Disaster Prevention and Relief, said the large number of pipes, shafts and stairwells inside skyscrapers act as chimneys to help the flames and smoke spread.

And while there is still no fail-safe evacuation procedure, the standard of facilities is also an issue.

The hoses employed by fire crews on the Chinese mainland can only reach as high as 100 m at most - below the 20th floor - and only a few regions are equipped with such facilities, said Zhou Meiliang, of the Shanghai fire and rescue bureau.

"Hopes should not be pinned on firefighters as they have to potentially climb many stairs in a high-rise to reach a burning floor carrying at least 20 kg of equipment. They will feel exhausted," he said.

Architectural expert Wang Cuikun said people must rely on the facilities already installed inside the skyscraper, such as sprinkler systems.

"But you never know if the sprinklers will work well until a fire occurs," she warned, adding: "Once the sprinklers are triggered and start spreading water, the whole building will be ruined and may need a lot of extra work."

Super-tall buildings also pose a danger to the environment, reports have suggested, heightening the risk of surface subsidence and traffic congestion.

The Lujiazui financial district - where a new 30-story building has been completed every 12 days for the last decade, according to reports in the Beijing Review - has been blamed for causing a downward shift in Shanghai's surface in recent years, along with an over-exploitation of underground water.

Meanwhile, Jiang Huan, an academic at the Chinese Academy of Engineering who was director of design for the Jin Mao Building, warned the many super-tall buildings in Lujiazui had also caused a rise in traffic problems.

"As a driver, you can see a skyscraper in front of you, but it is difficult to find the way directly to it," he said. "Many people have this experience. Sometimes, driving 500 m in the area will take an hour."

Fellow experts have warned skyscrapers could be a risk to ecological protection and urban planning, the proof of which will not emerge until decades later.

"Architects are trying to address the problems, but the solutions are a way off yet," added Wang.
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Interesting article, I've read very few articles focused on Chinese supertalls as a national trend. Sad to see skyscraperphobia is invading China, what a load of stupid statements and self contradictory remarks they wrote!
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