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Old June 2nd, 2009, 05:24 PM   #661
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Century Plaza, Liuzhou, Guangxi Province

It's said this building is U/C but I haven't got the latest pics.





http://forum.xinhuanet.com/detail.jsp?id=67390917

EDIT: changed building name, thanks Z0rg.

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Old June 2nd, 2009, 06:22 PM   #662
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That's not Diwang tower. That's the Centry Plaza (柳州中房·世纪广场). 196m, 56 floors

Info about Diwang International Fortune Center here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=34482360
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They posted this in Skyscrapers.cn, just a random proposal I guess. No chances, I'm not including it in the lists or whatever. 521m, 128 floors. In Guangzhou.








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Old June 2nd, 2009, 08:37 PM   #664
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Why are you so conclusive that there is no chance for this .Actually this would look amazing .I hope this turns into reality
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Because there's no source and the render looks very unprofessional. Looks like a project proposed by a student or something. Still nice to see.
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The first time I see this list. How could I possibly overlook it?



Amazing stuff you're doing here z0rg! Thanks a lot.
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DLN updated the of Shenyang New World International Convention and Exhibition Center, so this one is likely to be the final design. 307m according to the architect, 312m according to the engineering studio. I don't know what source shows the real height.

Site Area : 266,714mē
Total Gross Floor Area : 1,302,311mē
Gross Floor Area Above Ground : 982,311mē
Gross Floor Area Below Ground : 320,000mē
Residential Area : 202,842mē
No. of Residential Units : 2,000
Office Area : 319,819mē
Hotel Area : 54,921mē
Hotel Room No. : 838
Commercial Area : 232,579mē
Serviced Apartment Area : 72,150mē
Convention & Exhibition Centre Area : 100,000mē
No. of Storeys Above Ground : 60
No. of Podium Floors : 5
No. of Basement Floors : 2
Car Park No. : 3,500
Building Height : 307m













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300m+ Diwang Plaza, Liuzhou, Guangxi Province

It's said this building is U/C but I haven't got the latest pics.





http://forum.xinhuanet.com/detail.jsp?id=67390917
even some small city wanted a 300m plus skysccraper which I found very disturbing,there slogan is"built it,they will automatically come",but what if there is no tenant? maintaining cost for skyscraper is very expensive, if you look at shenzhen ,fuzhan,(biggest shopping mall in the world)or xiamen,there's are lot shopping mall with no tenant just empty building.a shell.
unless the central bank (government) intervent,China may be looking bubble burst.a lot of beautiful and empty building,
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 07:08 AM   #670
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They posted this in Skyscrapers.cn, just a random proposal I guess. No chances, I'm not including it in the lists or whatever. 521m, 128 floors. In Guangzhou.








This design is out of this world. In fact, it is like a zerg hive from starcraft.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 07:57 AM   #671
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even some small city wanted a 300m plus skysccraper which I found very disturbing,there slogan is"built it,they will automatically come",but what if there is no tenant? maintaining cost for skyscraper is very expensive, if you look at shenzhen ,fuzhan,(biggest shopping mall in the world)or xiamen,there's are lot shopping mall with no tenant just empty building.a shell.
unless the central bank (government) intervent,China may be looking bubble burst.a lot of beautiful and empty building,
Chinese economy is still growing strong, the service industry is also developing strong, so it seems there is a need.
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Nobody cares if a 0.5 million city builds 8x10 floor towers. But when a 1 million city proposes an 80 floor supertall everybody goes crazy and starts talking about bubbles, etc. I can't understand it. Chinese cities concentrate A grade offices in large projects, especialy second and third tier cities. It is as simple as that. In most developed countries you have countless minor projects of high quality offices for every large development. Also, if you revise the yearly take-up of A grade offices in some Chinese cities, it matches approximately the new supply added a couple of years earlier. They have been talking about an unsustainable skyscraper bubble in China for decades. Meanwhile, private owned developers from Hong Kong and abroad keep building more and more projects and earning a lot of cash with sales. It's time to revise our prejudices I think.

http://www.propertywire.com/news/com...807221351.html
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More about Shimao Project in Qingdao. Qingdao Olympic Tower (青岛世奥大厦), 339m. No pics.
Location: Donghai Xilu 45-47.
Plot area: 10,723m2
Construction area: 214,462m2.
Residential: 107,232m2
Offices, hotel and commercial: 107,230m2
Start: Late 2009
Completion: 2014



 青岛世奥大厦预计年底开工,要建北方第一高楼。6月2日,市环保局对青岛世奥大厦项目环境影响评价进行了第一次公示。该项目建成后将成为北方第一高楼。

  该项目位于东海西路45、47号,建设范围包括原市建委和市排水管理处用地。项目总占地 10723.1平方米,规划总面积214462平方米,其中高档住宅楼107232平方米,写字楼、酒店及商业楼107230平方米;建筑总高度339 米。项目计划2009年底开工,2014年底全部竣工。据介绍,该项目建成后将成为北方第一高楼以及青岛市的标志性建筑。

  该项目为超高层标志性建筑,存在的特有环境问题包括:超高层建筑带来的建筑风害影响;高层建筑引起的风场变化,直接影响污染物扩散条件 ;超高层建筑带来的日照遮挡问题;大型玻璃幕墙可能带来的光污染问题;超高层建筑与周围自然景观、建筑群协调性问题等。

http://news.qd.eeju.com/2009-06-03/90514.html

I'll open a thread as soon as I can find a render.
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Old June 8th, 2009, 01:30 AM   #674
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SHENZHEN | Project T106—0028 | 301m, 70 floors. Approved – Under design. Proposed several years ago as Nikko Tower, this project located in Nanshan is being re-designed. It could become a never built project anyways. Project thread.
By szfit. This one should be the final design. Already under construction.
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Old June 11th, 2009, 08:04 AM   #675
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Chinese investment surges, adding to recovery hopes

BEIJING, June 11 (Reuters) - Chinese investment surged in May on the back of government pump-priming and a recovery in the property sector, providing fresh evidence that the world's third-largest economy is leading others on the path to recovery.

Investment in urban areas in fixed assets such as apartment buildings and roads rose 32.9 percent in the first five months from a year earlier, compared with a 30.5 percent rise in the first four months, the National Bureau of Statistics said on Thursday.

Economists said that translated into a 40 percent leap in May alone. Adjusted for inflation, the increase was even greater because Chinese prices have been falling for several months.

"I think this is a welcome sign of momentum building in the Chinese economy, and it's good for the global outlook," said David Cohen with Action Economics in Singapore.

The median forecast of economists polled by Reuters was for a rise of 31.0 percent, but the figure of 32.9 percent had been whispered in China's financial markets all week.

Given that rumours of Wednesday's inflation figures also proved to be spot on, the accuracy of the leak lends credence to talk in the market -- reported by two newspapers -- that data on Friday will show industrial production rose 8.9 percent in the year to May. That would be the sharpest rise since September.

The MSCI index of Asia Pacific stocks outside Japan was up 0.6 percent, adding to gains in global markets a day earlier in anticipation of a strong industrial production report.

Economists attributed the strength in investment to the government's 4 trillion yuan ($585 billion) economic stimulus plan, announced in November, and an associated record surge in credit growth from the state-dominated banking system.

The need for strong domestic stimulus was underscored by customs data showing that exports and imports fell in May from year-earlier levels for the seventh month in a row -- and at an accelerating pace.

"External demand remains weak as the U.S. and European economies are still contracting, so it'll be hard for China's exports to see a quick rebound," said Feng Yuming, an economist with Orient Securities in Shanghai.

Exports fell 26.4 percent from May 2008, while imports fell 25.2 percent, resulting in a trade surplus of $13.4 billion, compared with $13.1 billion in April and $18.6 billion in March.

Economists had expected a $14.8 billion surplus based on a 23.1 percent fall in exports and a 22 percent drop in imports from year-earlier levels.

After seasonal adjustment, however, exports rose 0.2 percent in May from April and imports rose 4.4 percent, customs said.

Moreover, Sherman Chan with Moody's Economy.Com in Sydney said trade flows today reflect orders placed several months ago, when the global economy was in dire straits.

"If you look back at, say, half a year ago, business sentiment was very, very weak and also household consumption was subdued around the world, which is why China's exports would have been weak," she said.

Investment, by contrast, is a better leading indicator. Here, economists saw much greater grounds for optimism.

Spending on new projects surged 96 percent, while investment in railways soared 110.9 percent.

The real estate sector, which accounts for almost a quarter of fixed investment, saw growth of 6.8 percent in the first five months, up sharply from 4.9 percent in the January-April period.

Leading developers have been increasing their land purchases -- which are included in the investment figures -- as they judge that a recovery in property prices and transactions is durable after an 18-month slump in the sector. "The growth momentum of investment is really dramatic, and we expect that momentum to continue in the next two or three quarters," said Xing Zhiqiang, an analyst at China International Capital Corp, an investment bank in Beijing.
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Nobody cares if a 0.5 million city builds 8x10 floor towers. But when a 1 million city proposes an 80 floor supertall everybody goes crazy and starts talking about bubbles, etc. I can't understand it. Chinese cities concentrate A grade offices in large projects, especialy second and third tier cities. It is as simple as that. In most developed countries you have countless minor projects of high quality offices for every large development. Also, if you revise the yearly take-up of A grade offices in some Chinese cities, it matches approximately the new supply added a couple of years earlier. They have been talking about an unsustainable skyscraper bubble in China for decades. Meanwhile, private owned developers from Hong Kong and abroad keep building more and more projects and earning a lot of cash with sales. It's time to revise our prejudices I think.

http://www.propertywire.com/news/com...807221351.html
remember the real estate meltdown in Hainan island of the mid-90's? most of the property has to sell for a lost,just like the car dealer in the US.
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Starwood plans 5-year expansion after cash call
10 June 2009
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Starwood Capital Group, headed by hotel king Barry Sternlicht, founder of the Starwood Hotels empire and the W Hotels, plans to expand its reach to the mainland and Hong Kong after raising a war chest of US$2 billion.

In a five-year plan, Starwood Capital plans more than 20 new properties under the "Baccarat" and "1" Hotel and Residences brands either through management agreements, equity investments or by forming joint ventures with domestic developers.

Next week, the group's first managed Baccarat Residences developed on the mainland at 8 Ji Nan Road, Xintiandi in Shanghai, will be put up for sale. The 308-unit twin tower project formerly known as Residence 8 was relaunched as Baccarat Residences.

The upmarket development offers fully furnished units, a signature Baccarat chandelier in the lobby, a "crystal tea room", and a wine room with an eight-metre table based on the piece at the Maison Baccarat in Paris for private cocktail parties.

Mr Sternlicht, who created the Baccarat Hotel and Resorts brand in 2007, said his confidence in the mainland was bolstered by the good response to the sale of Baccarat Residences Shanghai, which was managed by the group.

Fifteen units at the Baccarat Residences East Tower have been sold at between 80,000 yuan (HK$90,860) and 100,000 yuan per square metre before the official launch. Added to previous sales since 2007, 140 of the 154 units at East Tower have now been sold. The 154-unit West Tower will be officially launched next Monday. "We are also looking at a Baccarat Hotel in Shanghai, and a couple of opportunities in Beijing," said Mr Sternlicht.

The group is due to open its first Baccarat Hotel in Hawaii next year and it will also open a Baccarat Hotel and Residences in Dubai in 2011.

On the mainland, the group is also working on "1" hotel - a luxury green brand for the world's eco-conscious travellers - in Shanghai, Mr Sternlicht told the South China Morning Post.

He aims to open 10 to 20 properties under the "1" Hotel and Residences brands in the next five years, with at least one to three Baccarat Residences in each major mainland city.

Hotel projects would be invested under its recently closed US$1 billion global hotel fund, and residential projects would be invested under another US$1 billion non-hotel fund.

"We can do anything from US$10 million to US$200 million. We are not really capital-constrained but more opportunity-constrained," he said, singling out high pricing as one of the difficulties in concluding deals on the mainland.

As a result, the group had not been able to feel comfortable about achieving the targeted rates of return of 12 to 20 per cent a year that it could achieve in other countries such as the United States, he said. "We were recently looking at an old hotel in Shanghai, but the price traded way beyond what we thought."

So far, the group had no direct investment in the mainland property market, said Mr Sternlicht, but Starwood Capital had bought about 3 per cent of Jinjiang International Hotels Development, the mainland's largest hotel operator, before it listed in 2006.

In Hong Kong, he has established good relationship with major developers such as Sun Hung Kai Properties, which owns the W Hotel at International Commercial Centre in Kowloon Station.

"We love to be in Hong Kong, but [property] is very expensive."
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Finally some imges of the new Changsha megaproject. The tallest tower has 400m.

Developer: Gale International.
Architect: KPF
http://www.galeintl.com/home/project...-district.aspx

Annoucement today
http://finance.ifeng.com/city/csjs/2...1/776737.shtml
http://office.focus.cn/news/2009-06-11/691971.html
http://www.hn.chinanews.com.cn/news/...611/21594.html











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TIANJIN | China 117 Tower | 600m, 117 floors. Construction – Foundation works. Architect: P&T. Developer: Goldin Properties. Currently Tianjin’s tallest approved supertall, this project will become the main landmark of the newly re-developed Huayuan Industry Park area. The master plan includes tens of residential highrises and two twin towers around 70 floors. The vague appearance of the available renders and the lack of information concerning the architectural layout may indicate that the actual tower is still under design, and therefore will be probably very different from the known images. Ground breaking ceremony took place in December 2007 and the huge plot started to show fast ground works in late 2008. Project thread.
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