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Old July 31st, 2010, 11:05 PM   #1101
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SHIJIAZHUANG | Shijiazhuang International Convention and Exhibition Center | 365m, 85 floors. Proposed – Design contest. This project was released in November 2008 at the urban planning and exhibition center of Shijiazhuang. There are three proposals. Proposal A has 330m and 85 floors, proposal B has 270m and 66 floors and proposal C has 365m and 85 floors. Project thread.
Woods Bagot won!!! 330m


Woods Bagot designs abstract Exhibition and Convention Centre in North China

After competing against seven internationally acclaimed architectural firms, Woods Bagot have presented their winning masterplan and concept design for the Shijiazhuang International Exhibition and Convention Centre.

The culturally-focused mixed use precinct will serve to showcase Shijiazhuang as a global destination for conference delegates and tourists by re-activating the City’s underdeveloped coastal region. Whilst convention precincts in surrounding cities remain under-utilised, Woods Bagot’s design is expected to maximise the Chinese government’s generous investment with its emphasis on stimulating and revitalising 190,000 sq m of the local urban fabric. Woods Bagot are aiming to deliver a level of sustainability and design excellence in built form that will be fundamental to strengthening Shijiazhuang’s international profile.

Woods Bagot Beijing Principal Jean Weng said: “Woods Bagot has designed Shijiazhuang’s International Exhibition and Convention Centre to respond to, and engage with, the landscape and its plethora of visitors – forming a harmonious, balanced design response that is also visually arresting.”

Employing a filed pattern reminiscent of traditional Chinese ‘broken ice’ screens, the design language developed by Woods Bagot has been applied to the whole site – working across the grounds, moving outward to the tip’s river surrounds to create a randomly split, abstract appearance when viewed aerially. Tied together by a fully enclosed and air-conditioned concourse spine, the precinct facilities will comprise 100,000 sq m of premium grade international standard exhibition space, 60,000 sq m of high quality convention facilities (including a state-of-the-art plenary), and 30,000 sq m auxiliary spaces.

A landmark tower reaching upwards of 330m is conveniently located adjacent to the central Exhibition and Convention Centre on an independent 4ha of land. The tower will house a 5-star hotel, serviced apartments and premium grade office space.

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Old August 7th, 2010, 02:47 PM   #1102
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Beijing CBD Z15 Plot. 400m+

The plot is being cleared according to the press, and it was purchased by Greenland.

http://news.hexun.com/2010-08-02/124452317.html
http://news.qq.com/a/20100802/001477.htm
http://money.163.com/photoview/0HH40...3KI6Q00HH40025



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Old August 7th, 2010, 02:49 PM   #1103
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Greenland announces 600m+ tower in Wuhan. We should open a thread as soon as we can find renders.
http://office.sz.focus.cn/news/2010-07-08/980714.html
http://news.hexun.com/2010-08-06/124512325.html
http://office.soufun.com/2010-08-06/3640633.htm
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Old August 7th, 2010, 03:43 PM   #1104
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Greenland announces 600m+ tower in Wuhan. We should open a thread as soon as we can find renders.
http://office.sz.focus.cn/news/2010-07-08/980714.html
http://news.hexun.com/2010-08-06/124512325.html
http://office.soufun.com/2010-08-06/3640633.htm
What the chances this tower will be built ?
Greenland are very serious company aren't they ?
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Old August 7th, 2010, 05:16 PM   #1105
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One of the 3 strongest developers in China Mainland.
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Old August 7th, 2010, 06:05 PM   #1106
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One of the 3 strongest developers in China Mainland.
That's good to hear,
they prove theirselves when they built the greenland plaza in Nanjing...
now they have to build the beautiful arch in beijing and the 600 meter in wuhan and we will be very pleased.

are there any other projects in mainland china of greenland ?
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Old August 7th, 2010, 07:06 PM   #1107
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are there any other projects in mainland china of greenland ?
As far as I know these are the most important skycraper projects by Greenland.

Built:
Nanjing Greenland Plaza. 450m. By SOM.

U/C:
Zhengzhou Greenland Plaza. 279m. By SOM.

Prep:
Jinan Puli Center. 300m. By SOM.
Nanchang Greenland Plaza. 2x289m. By SOM.

Annouced:
Wuhan 600m tower
Dalian 518m tower.
Beijing 400m tower.
Jinan 400m tower.
Zhengzhou 2x300m towers.
Changchun 300m tower.
Qingdao 300m tower, rumor claims it'll be around 500m.
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Old August 7th, 2010, 07:38 PM   #1108
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As far as I know these are the most important skycraper projects by Greenland.

Built:
Nanjing Greendland Plaza. 450m. By SOM.

U/C:
Zhengzhou Greendland Plaza. 279m. By SOM.

Prep:
Jinan Puli Center. 300m. By SOM.
Nanchang Greenland Plaza. 2x289m. By SOM.

Annouced:
Wuhan 600m tower
Dalian 518m tower.
Beijing 400m tower.
Jinan 400m tower.
Zhengzhou 2x300m towers.
Changchun 300m tower.
Qingdao 300m tower, rumor claims it'll be around 500m.
OMG that's wonderful,
wow china is full of enormous projects,
What in your opinion is the next project going to be u/c ? in general not just greenland.
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Old August 7th, 2010, 10:26 PM   #1109
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When you say that you mean from "prep" to "proper u/c" or from no activity to prep activity?

The former, hmmm, we'll see proper construction stuff at the Guangzhou J2-5 Plot soon. Also at the Chongqing WFC, Tianjin Sino-Steel, Tianjin R&F...

From no activity to prep activity is very hard to say. You know, often you expect they'll start digging at some plot in a very short term, and 2 years laters you realize you've been waiting for the first digging pic of that project for ages. Maybe Nanjing WTC and Shenzhen Hon Kwok. Also Wenzhou Lucheng is very likely to start activity soon becuase in the last pic you can see digging devices at the tower site, but we only get a few updates a year of that project on the average
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Old August 9th, 2010, 08:29 PM   #1110
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Remember the Dragon Dream Pacific Center in Shenyang?
From 4x400m to 2x400m, then 2x330m, then 2x300m and finally no supertalls within the masterplan. Well, now the supertall status might be back, 1x430m. No links, no info, sorry. Maybe just a rumor that will never come real (I'm not including this at any list till we can confirm it).

By the way, posting sources is banned in Chinese forums? Seems so!



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zorg forgive me if this is a silly question, is there need of so much office space?? i think with all these projects completed will it not result into oversupply???
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Old August 9th, 2010, 10:32 PM   #1112
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We'll see. By the moment vacancy rates in most cities have kept high but stable, supply isn't growing faster than demand. Of course vacancy rate must stay high in such a booming economy so that they avoid bottlenecks that may lead to skyrocketing rentals.

Actually vacancy rates are decreasing in most cities contrary to the biased claims we normally read on the press. And anyway many of these projects will take many years to complete, especially the multi phase ones.

Q2 2010 reports:
http://www.cbre.com.hk/china/eng/doc...mv_2q10_en.pdf
http://www.colliersinternational.com...na-Q2-2010.pdf

Check the Figure 1 in this report:
http://www.colliersinternational.com...009_office.pdf

Beijing's occupied area of A grade offices has climbed from 4 million sqm in 2005 to 8 million just 5 years later. The demand growing like crazy, this is the reality that refutes all those skyscraper bubble stories. And as I like to say: Nobody cares if they build 10 buildings of 8 floors each in a 300,000 people town, but if they build one single 80 floor tower in a 600,000 city everybody goes crazy and starts talking about bubbles, etc. Some people here shouldn't call themselves skyscraper fans, more on the contrary.
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Old August 10th, 2010, 12:28 AM   #1113
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By the way, posting sources is banned in Chinese forums? Seems so!
There are huge competition between Chinese cities (ie, Chongqing to Chengdu, Fuzhou to Xiamen, Guangzhou to Shenzhen, Shanghai, and Tianjin, Qingdao to Jinan, and etc). They like like to put titles such as projects that's going to be "Northeast Tallest", "Pearl River Delta's Tallest", "China's Southwest Center". IMO It has to do with the dignity/prestige attitude.

Combine em' all and you'll sometimes get crazy rumors, I even saw Fuzhou 103 Tower going into 600m+ lol...and the OP didn't put any sources. Not good! these hypes often comes down to huge disappointments in the end.
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@Zorg thank you for providing very valuable information and throwing light on the topic , after seeing all the reports i must say that since Beijing and Shanghai are very well known and are major business centres of Asia and with coming years will surely become the business centres of the world with Shanghai taking new york according to me somewhere around 2016-18 , i am pretty much sure that seeing this many or most of the big MNC/companies are shifting their bases to China thanks to recession in USA and the high demand in Asia particularly in China, therefore i think Grade A office space rentals have increased in shanghai and beijing. Also when China slows down in 4 to 5 years and becomes a developed country then i am sure that metropolis like Guangzhou,Shenzhen,Chengu, Chonqing etc will become the new centres of business with then increasing the rentals in these cities IMO. i hope for the best
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2016-2018 seems much too early for Shanghai to 'take' New York. Actually I'd be really excited if Shanghai becomes as good as Hong Kong by that time.

It is a long way for China to be a developed country, at least according to Chinese researchers
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The China Modernization Report 2005, released at a seminar organized by the China Centre for Modernization Research under the Chinese Academy of Sciences, concluded China will become a "moderately developed country" before 2050 thanks to its ongoing modernization drive.
Right now the competition between Chinese mega cities is intense. Even cities with a small population are turning themselves into big construction sites. About 50 cities want to build a metro system, and there will be even more as long as Beijing approves their proposals. If Shanghai stopped its development now, it would be surpassed by other Chinese cities very soon.

Meanwhile, similar supertall/highrise boom is taking place in India and Vietnam as well. A lot of Asian countries are updating/building their infrastructures. I would like to say that China is not among the first in Asia to build things like crazy, and it certainly will not be the last.
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z0rg,what's happening with new projects in china ?
once you would update us with one new project over 200 meter everyday,
this already a 2 weeks there is no new projects.
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z0rg,what's happening with new projects in china ?
once you would update us with one new project over 200 meter everyday,
this already a 2 weeks there is no new projects.
Maybe z0rg is busy~

Considering Chinese government's aggressive new regulations aimed at cooling off the nation’s real estate market and thus slowing it's growth, we might be seeing the effects here. But nevertheless, there are still a lot of skyscraper projects coming out....too much but with little information/detail, i guess z0rg didn't bother to post them here.
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Old August 11th, 2010, 02:25 AM   #1118
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z0rg,what's happening with new projects in china ?
once you would update us with one new project over 200 meter everyday,
this already a 2 weeks there is no new projects.
Haha! Actually I've opened many 200m+ threads in the last 2-3 months. And countless 300m+ projects have started either digging or foundation works in 2010. I've never posted 200m stuff everyday, that would be crazy.

Besides, the amount of 400m+, 500m+ and even 600m+ proposals in the last 12 months is sick.

Compare March 2009:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...h2009total.png
vs May 2010
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...tmay2010-1.jpg

I'll update the lists this week.
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I've never posted 200m stuff everyday, that would be crazy.
Yea....that would be
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2016-2018 seems much too early for Shanghai to 'take' New York. Actually I'd be really excited if Shanghai becomes as good as Hong Kong by that time.

It is a long way for China to be a developed country, at least according to Chinese researchers
ok i take my words back after doing some research and Shanghai will cross tokyo not new york by 2025-26 or may be early

also i don`t know about what criteria chinese researchers have used for developed country, but since this report is supposed to be prepared in 2005, so a lot has been changed since then
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