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Old April 22nd, 2011, 11:47 PM   #1321
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Shanghai Yangpu district masterplan proposal. Source: Shanghai Urban Planning Bureau.
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 04:40 AM   #1322
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Well, well. This one will be out very soon it seems. Each tower will be developed by a different company: Hang Lung and Greenland, both very powerful and reliable. Expected heights: 500m+ and 450m+. The twin project is now called Century Plaza.

This screenshot comes from a recent official video.
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We should open a thread for each one as soon as they release some official render...
Suzhou should have 600m+ and 700m+ buildings to take the lead.
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 04:32 PM   #1323
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[QUOTE=z0rg;76525577]Shanghai Yangpu district masterplan proposal. Source: Shanghai Urban Planning Bureau.
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The tallest tower seems to be 500m+!!

With even smaller cities in China getting 400,500,600m proposals, it's about time Shanghai got some more!
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 05:26 PM   #1324
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Shanghai Yangpu district masterplan proposal. Source: Shanghai Urban Planning Bureau.

Zorg, does Shanghai have the same project as Beihai, namely the Fake Hill project? http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=892848

Look at the hill shaped buildings to the right. Not perfectly identical maybe, but pretty similar.
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 07:35 PM   #1325
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They often copy random stuff for concept renders, that's all
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Old April 24th, 2011, 12:57 AM   #1326
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Excellent project!!! Chinese cities need more quality buildings
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Old April 24th, 2011, 01:25 AM   #1327
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They already do have loads of quality buildings lined up.
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Old April 24th, 2011, 05:06 AM   #1328
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Besides the cladding on the two taller buildings, i don't see anything chinese about the towers. Well maybe the two uneven heights tower concept (ie Gz and Wuhan). Having said that, i don't mean that they look western, just not chinese thats all. I don't like the fake hill looking designs. Maybe some pagoda/scroll orientated shorter buildings instead of those deformed looking towers that are thinner versions of IFC. BTW, is the China pav for shanghai expo and the famous temple one of the few chinese orientated buildings in shanghai and Jin mao? I just realised that there aren't a lot of culture in shanghainese buildings relative to other cities.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 11:47 PM   #1329
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XIANDAI Architecture Design has won a design contest for a 300m, 63 floor twin project in Zhuhai. We should open a thread as soon as they publish the renders. Shengming International Plaza (盛明国际广场) 盛明国际/MADEX is a company from Hong Kong, isn't it?
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NANJING | Hunan Lu Plots 4&5 Development | 485m, 105 floors. Approved. Developer: Suning Real Estate. This is the third supertall project released by Suning for its home city. Though it was announced in mid 2009, construction schedule remains unknown. Known proposals include AEDAS and Murphy/Jahn.. Project thread.
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NANJING | Nanjing Tower | 450m, 118 floors. Approved. Developer: Suning Real Estate. This tower is called to become the main landmark project of Nanjing’s new Hexi CBD. The height could be drastically reduced according to unsourced rumors, and the final project could be just around 350-400m. Known proposals include AEDAS and Murphy/Jahn. Project thread.
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NANJING | Xinjiekou Plaza | 380m. Approved. Developer: Suning Real Estate. One of the three supertall projects to be developed by Suning Group at its home city. No details have been released about this project, but it is rumored that the maximum height may surpass 400m. The design may be changed anyway. Project thread.
So these ones may be the final designs for the 3 Suning projects in Nanjing since they are being displayed at the walls of one of the plots. I'm so sorry for AEDAS, their designs were the best. On the other hand these ones are very decent too.

Pics by manlingkun.

Hunan Lu project, 350m, 338m, 225m. By Murphy/Jahn. Heights confirmed by M/J website, but they withdrew the project from their website recently, so maybe it's being modified. AEDAS proposal got 485m, 200m, 170m, 140m.


Nanjing Tower in Hexi. 400m, 90 floors. By Murphy/Jahn. Height confirmed by M/J website. AEDAS proposal got 450m, 118 floors.


Xinjiekou Tower. 388m, 82 floors, by Foster+Partners. Height confirmed by Halvorson+Partners website.
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i love this thread.
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Old May 3rd, 2011, 03:33 AM   #1332
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Old May 3rd, 2011, 04:28 AM   #1333
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These supertalls probably hints an emerging superpower.
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I love the second project the best. The third one is unique in style but it has been used quite a few times since it first appeared in Bank of china (HK). I would have liked another design to be chosen for the first project. Oh well, they are all bearable so thats the good thing
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looking at the map it seems like Hogkong is like every other chinese city but a few years ahead, now it makes a break and will be shrinked by all this booming cities on the mainland
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One concern for China though: with all the stories of new cities being built fro 2 million people and more each, with no one living there, does this bode ill for all these projects?

I would love to see highrises scattered throughout the cities of China, with HSR connecting each city, but I worry they are in for an economic correction of epic proportions. The last number I heard was 62 million (yes, million) empty units in China right now.

To quote Ghostbusters, "that's a big twinkie."
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One concern for China though: with all the stories of new cities being built fro 2 million people and more each, with no one living there, does this bode ill for all these projects?
Could you name one of the 200 projects in this thread that's being built on a new city?

Instead of reading journalist/liar bullshit you better pay attention to the reports published by CB Richard Ellis, Colliers, Jones Lang LaSalle, etc. All of them are say basically the same: Demand for high quality offices in China is enormous, and the lag till new projects get absorbed is very short.
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SHENYANG | Hang Lung Plaza Twin Towers | 384m, 75 floors; 350m, 67 floors. Under construction – Foundation works. Architect: KPF. Developer: Hang Lung Properties. Foundation works started in mid-2008 and the first crane was finally erected in March 2009. The project will be completed in November 2011. The project is located at Shenhe district, next to Eton Center development. The plan also includes another two towers around 200m. Project thread.
Hang Lung Chairman Ronnie Chan Says There Isn’t a Property Bubble in China
By Dan Levy - May 2, 2011 11:39 PM GMT+0200

Ronnie Chan, chairman of Hong Kong- based developer Hang Lung Properties Ltd. (101), said “humongous demand” from consumers and action by the central government reduce the chance that China’s property market will collapse.

Concerns over a real estate bubble are “total crap,” Chan said today at the Milken Institute Global Conference in Beverly Hills, California. Home prices last year rose 26 percent in Shanghai and 29 percent in Chongqing, leading the government in Beijing to raise minimum down-payments for second-home purchases and tell local officials to set price targets on new properties.

“People use the word so loosely,” Chan said of the term “bubble” to describe China’s real estate market. Much of the existing housing in the country is “substandard” and will never be occupied as consumers demand higher-quality homes, he said.

“Those will be torn down, and a lot faster than you think,” said Chan, who in 1991 took over the development firm founded by his father and now is spending $5.1 billion on malls and offices in five Chinese cities outside Shanghai.

Premier Wen Jiabao on Jan. 18 said the government will “resolutely” implement controls aimed at speculative buying. Property prices rose for a 19th month in December, even after Beijing suspended mortgages for third-home purchases and restricted loans to developers. The 6.4 percent gain in December was the smallest in 13 months, according to SouFun Holdings Ltd.

The key to getting projects built in China, which has 83 cities with more than 3 million people, is a “good mayor” who is in favor with party officials and understands the needs of both the community and developer, Chan said.

“It depends a lot on how firm and strong he is,” he said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Dan Levy in San Francisco at [email protected]

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One concern for China though: with all the stories of new cities being built fro 2 million people and more each, with no one living there, does this bode ill for all these projects?

I would love to see highrises scattered throughout the cities of China, with HSR connecting each city, but I worry they are in for an economic correction of epic proportions. The last number I heard was 62 million (yes, million) empty units in China right now.

To quote Ghostbusters, "that's a big twinkie."
x2. I hate to shatter the mood in this thread, but this is spot on. There is enough office space being built for every man, woman and child to have their own 5 x 5 cubicle, and I've heard 64 million empty apartments in China, and growing. This sort of government subsidized growth is unsustainable when little to none of the newly constructed space is being occupied.

I'd love to see these projects constructed, and I wish China the best, however I have to agree with the previous post. This is completely unsustainable.
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Stop trolling.

Some facts here:
http://www.colliersinternational.com...-BJ-1Q2011.pdf

I still remember in 2008 when a lot of *******s said Beijing had more office space they could fill in decades. Hopefully Beijing will quicken its projects or it'll face a shortage of A grade offices within the end of 2012.
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