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Old June 18th, 2012, 08:11 AM   #1541
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Speaking of north east China , any idea about what's going on in Changchun ? Sorry ... can't read Chinese .
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Old September 6th, 2012, 05:47 PM   #1543
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China's skyscraper fervor causes concerns of investment misstep

BEIJING, Sept. 3 (Xinhua) -- Clusters of skyscrapers are elevating the urban skyline in many Chinese cities. However, recent reports of a craze to build more of them have sparked concerns of inadvisable investment.

Beijing's current tallest building -- the China World Trade Center Tower 3, which is 330 meters in height, will be dwarfed in 2016 by the nearby "China Zun," which is being developed by the CITIC Group.

The design of the 528-meter China Zun was inspired by a kind of ancient Chinese wine vessel, and investment in the project is to reach 24 billion yuan (3.78 billion U.S. dollars), according to the group.

China Zun is only an epitome of the increasing number of skyscrapers shooting up across Chinese cities under the fervor for high-rises in recent years.

The southwestern city of Chongqing is pumping a total investment of 10 billion yuan into developing the 470-meter-tall Chongqing International Financial Center.

Shenzhen in south China's Guangdong Province will embrace its 660-meter Ping'an International Financial Center in two years, the result of a total investment of 9 billion yuan.

The 580-meter-tall Shanghai Center will beat the 492 meters of the Shanghai World Financial Center in the future as the tallest building in the city.

To make all these projects pale in comparison, it has been reported that next June Changsha, capital of central China's Hunan Province, will start using just seven months to construct a building that will be 10 meters higher than the 828-meter Burj Khalifa Tower in Dubai, the world's tallest building.

Buildings higher than 152 meters are regarded as skyscrapers. Among the 10 tallest buildings completed, four are located in the Chinese mainland.

Figures released by skyscraper-observing website motiancity.com show that as of March 2011, the Chinese mainland has built 350 skyscrapers higher than 152 meters, outstripping the number in the United States. The country then was building another 287 high-rises, and planned to construct more than 400 skyscrapers in the future.

But low occupancy is a potential risk developers have to consider, warned He Jingtang, an academic with the Chinese Academy of Engineering.

Property market adviser Jones Lang LaSalle has pointed out that cooled economic expansion dampened demand for high-end office buildings in Beijing in the first half of the year.

At the same time, rent for high-end office buildings in the Chinese capital surged 50 percent in the second quarter of 2012, according to property market advisory DTZ Debenham Tie Leung Limited. Rent spikes are likely to keep small or medium-sized companies away.

Hung-Ming Lin, board chairman and general manager of Taipei 101, the second-tallest building completed in the world, said it takes a very long time before developers can make profits from skyscrapers.

"Developers will suffer from a strained money supply," Lin added.

Running skyscrapers is also costly. It is estimated that management expenditure on the 420.5-meter-tall Shanghai Jinmao Tower reaches 1 million yuan each day.

Architect Lin Xianguang warned that fire is the most serious threat to tall buildings.

A fire brigade official in Beijing confirmed that rescue work in fire disasters in high-rises is a difficult problem globally. As scaling ladders normally reach a maximum of 100 meters, they aren't much used if fires occur in taller buildings.

"We need helicopters for rescue work in that case," said the official, who wished to remain anonymous, adding that there are few fire brigades in China equipped for such flight.

Zhou Xuewang, who is in charge of the China branch of U.S. architectural design firm SOM, said many developers started construction without sufficient planning before breaking ground.

According to Zhou, the craze for building high-rises stems from local authorities' image-making and need to promulgate political achievements.

Whether these skyscrapers will be sustainable is subject to doubt, Zhou added.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #1544
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BEIJING, Sept. 25 (Xinhua)-- Concerns have been raised after a recent report on China's skyscrapers predicted that the country will top the world with more than one thousand tall buildings by the end of the next decade.

This news gave rise to online concerns over the country's economic prospects and urban planning.

The China-based skyscraper observing website Motiancity.com said in its latest report that the Chinese mainland will outstrip the U.S. to have the most skyscrapers during the next decade.

Non-residential buildings higher than 152 meters are regarded as skyscrapers. As of July 2012, the mainland has built 470 such high-rises, with another 332 buildings under construction and 516 having been planned, according to the report.

The document estimates a total of 1.7 trillion yuan (about 269 billion U.S. dollars) will be invested into China's skyscrapers that are being constructed or planned.

The skyscraper fervor spreading across the country is linked with a controversial theory by economic researcher Andrew Lawrence, according to netizens, which show that the world's tallest buildings often rise in the wake of economic downturns.

"Will the 'Lawrence Spell' come true?" Many of them share the same worries on Sina Weibo, a Chinese Twitter-like microblogging service, citing the recent sagging stock market and weak real-estate business.

Other netizens question the meaning of vying for the country with the most skyscrapers, saying that towering buildings are only for local authorities to help improve their image.

"When we have the world's tallest building, does it mean that I will be middle class, even the world's happiest middle class person?" Asked the Internet user "Bruce_BW".

"Skyscrapers are projects of the 'face', and the drainage facilities are projects of the 'conscience'," commented another user named "hoserlee" on Sina Weibo.

The reason of the skyscraper boom, according to the report, is that developers, regulators, construction companies and architect firms all incline to approve projects, in attempts to fuel the economic growth and make profits.

But this could cause a failure in both risk management and the self-protection system of the market, it warned.

The country's third industry, or the service sector is often considered the economic base of skyscrapers but it can hardly generate sufficient market demand to prop up the surging numbers of completed skyscrapers, said the report.

Added value of China's third industry grew 9.4 percent to reach 20.5 trillion yuan in 2011 but the rate fell far below the growth of skyscrapers.

Besides, fire, earthquakes and land subsidence are serious problems that developers and regulators need to consider before planning more high-rises, experts warned.

Statistics showed that Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Shanghai ranked the top three cities in terms of the number of skyscrapers being built, while second and third-tier cities in the country are quickly catching up.

Media reported in June that Changsha, capital of central China's Hunan Province, will take just seven months to construct a building that will be 10 meters higher than the 828-meter Burj Khalifa Tower in Dubai, the world's tallest building.

In response to the skyscraper fervor, some netizens are mourning over the fading away of traditional architecture in urban cities, suggesting a need for more funds into architectural conservation.

A Weibo user nicknamed "Xiaozhu" said: "Skyscrapers may look fancy, but they lack Chinese flavor. When architecture in China all looks alike, isn't it sad for China?"
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Old October 11th, 2012, 07:30 PM   #1545
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China has proven to be a successful country. Today every Multinational company is investing in China becuase they found china to be a high Return country. Investment in China's project means high Return and low Risk.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #1546
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Practical design for super-tall pair of towers in Yinchuan Yuehai Bay CBD, China

Experienced designers of tall buildings John Portman & Associates (JPA) have been selected by Chinese developers Greenland Group to conceptualise a pair of super-tall towers for Yinchuan Yuehai Bay Central Business District. The pair of buildings will comprise of office, hotel and boutique retail units across 3,293,757 sq ft of prime development space.

As usual in JPA projects, sustainability plays a strong role in this concept as Gordon Beckman, Principal and Design Director for the Greenland Super Tall Project explains: “We brought the entire design team together early in the design process to coordinate our efforts and to establish strategies for efficiency in construction, function, materials, water, energy, daylight and site usage to achieve the project goals. The result is what we consider to be a constructed aesthetic - an integration of design, structure and energy comfort systems as complete system.”

The base of JPA’s concept is inspired by local culture and design aesthetic. Chinese Hui, a predominantly Muslim ethnic group, presents a blend of Islamic and Chinese influences which JPA used as a reference point in the design of these two buildings. There is also a nod to the literal meaning of Yinchuan or ‘silver ring’ as a gleaming podium base links the pair of towers to one another.

As with many tall towers, this scheme is glass-rich, the rendering to the left showing a highly transparent façade system. Low emissivity glazing is to be used throughout, with horizontal blade sunshading on the south and west faces and vision and patterned frit glass to the east and north, supplying the necessary daylight control in response to solar orientation.

Status: Concept design

Source: www.worldarchitecturenews.com

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Old November 25th, 2012, 04:11 PM   #1547
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JPA designs first super-tall skyscraper for Nanning in Tianlong Fortune Center

The largely low-rise city of Nanning in Guangxi Province, China is soon to gain a sky-high building destined to act as a catalyst for the economic growth of the region. Over the past few years, Nanning has acted as host for the annual China ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) Summit and the city is currently the regional leader in promoting unity among its neighbours in the ASEAN. The city is also well known for its verdant foliage, earning it the nickname ‘The Green City’.

John Portman and Associates (JPA) has conceptualised a towering new commercial venue for the city which reaches high above its neighbouring buildings. At 1,312ft in height, the Tianlong Fortune Center will be the first super-tall skyscraper in the vicinity and will act as a financial and trade centre, headquarters to a number of banks and financial consultants.

A large proportion of the building will be used as office space, topped with a five-star atrium hotel. Amenities in the hotel will include a fitness centre, pool, restaurant, business centre, exclusive executive club and destination restaurant. This upper-level hotel will be located beneath a double-floor 360-degree viewing platform with one layer covered and the other open to the sky with a rooftop garden. A lower podium development will also sport a rooftop garden with varied commercial outlets.

Walt Jackson, Principal and Executive Vice President of JPA details: “Our team’s design concept tells a story about the future of Nanning and elevates the city’s visibility as a hub for harmony and regional development. This project reflects our design philosophy which is firmly rooted in the interpretation of basic human needs. We have weaved sensory elements into the Tianlong Fortune Center to create an experiential environment for the people who use the space.”

Status: Concept design

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Old January 6th, 2013, 04:57 AM   #1548
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Old January 6th, 2013, 05:21 AM   #1549
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ok perfect, thanks for the info
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Old January 6th, 2013, 12:23 PM   #1550
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This news gave rise to online concerns over the country's economic prospects and urban planning.

The China-based skyscraper observing website Motiancity.com said in its latest report that the Chinese mainland will outstrip the U.S. to have the most skyscrapers during the next decade.

But this could cause a failure in both risk management and the self-protection system of the market, it warned.
During the early 20th C. the USA had a massive boom like this in New York. It came to a sudden end in 1931 and it took another 30 years before any taller buildings were considered.

Part of this was that when you construct office space on the scale of 40 Wall, The Chrysler Building and the ESB, all within 13 months, you are going to saturate the office lease market for decades to come, and that's exactly what happened.

The good side is that structures like that and those currently under construction in China, elevate the aspirations, hopes, dreams, expectations and attitudes of the local people.

Soon, sooner than you think, the Chinese will begin to state sentiments such as:

"Look, we have the world's best CRH system, and 20/40/100 buildings taller than 300 meters. We should NOT have that in a nation with this problem, this problem, and this problem."

These buildings will inspire the Chinese just as similar structures did in the USA.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 02:49 AM   #1552
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Skyscraper fervor sparks concerns online

BEIJING, Sept. 25 (Xinhua)-- Concerns have been raised after a recent report on China's skyscrapers predicted that the country will top the world with more than one thousand tall buildings by the end of the next decade.

This news gave rise to online concerns over the country's economic prospects and urban planning.

The China-based skyscraper observing website Motiancity.com said in its latest report that the Chinese mainland will outstrip the U.S. to have the most skyscrapers during the next decade.

Non-residential buildings higher than 152 meters are regarded as skyscrapers. As of July 2012, the mainland has built 470 such high-rises, with another 332 buildings under construction and 516 having been planned, according to the report.

The document estimates a total of 1.7 trillion yuan (about 269 billion U.S. dollars) will be invested into China's skyscrapers that are being constructed or planned.

The skyscraper fervor spreading across the country is linked with a controversial theory by economic researcher Andrew Lawrence, according to netizens, which show that the world's tallest buildings often rise in the wake of economic downturns.

"Will the 'Lawrence Spell' come true?" Many of them share the same worries on Sina Weibo, a Chinese Twitter-like microblogging service, citing the recent sagging stock market and weak real-estate business.

Other netizens question the meaning of vying for the country with the most skyscrapers, saying that towering buildings are only for local authorities to help improve their image.

"When we have the world's tallest building, does it mean that I will be middle class, even the world's happiest middle class person?" Asked the Internet user "Bruce_BW".

"Skyscrapers are projects of the 'face', and the drainage facilities are projects of the 'conscience'," commented another user named "hoserlee" on Sina Weibo.

The reason of the skyscraper boom, according to the report, is that developers, regulators, construction companies and architect firms all incline to approve projects, in attempts to fuel the economic growth and make profits.

But this could cause a failure in both risk management and the self-protection system of the market, it warned.

The country's third industry, or the service sector is often considered the economic base of skyscrapers but it can hardly generate sufficient market demand to prop up the surging numbers of completed skyscrapers, said the report.

Added value of China's third industry grew 9.4 percent to reach 20.5 trillion yuan in 2011 but the rate fell far below the growth of skyscrapers.

Besides, fire, earthquakes and land subsidence are serious problems that developers and regulators need to consider before planning more high-rises, experts warned.

Statistics showed that Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Shanghai ranked the top three cities in terms of the number of skyscrapers being built, while second and third-tier cities in the country are quickly catching up.

Media reported in June that Changsha, capital of central China's Hunan Province, will take just seven months to construct a building that will be 10 meters higher than the 828-meter Burj Khalifa Tower in Dubai, the world's tallest building.

In response to the skyscraper fervor, some netizens are mourning over the fading away of traditional architecture in urban cities, suggesting a need for more funds into architectural conservation.

A Weibo user nicknamed "Xiaozhu" said: "Skyscrapers may look fancy, but they lack Chinese flavor. When architecture in China all looks alike, isn't it sad for China?"
why there's no attempt to stop it? this skyscraper mania could automatically lead to real estate melt down,very similiar to hainan in the mid 90's,and given the city massive debt such as wuhan,do they think they going to get bail out?
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 12:22 AM   #1553
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Is this Jinan 300m project (济南普利广场) on the list?











It was said 主体263米 至顶层透明玻璃顶300米
Does anyone know why this project wasn´t added to supertalls in our forum?
http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.p...e%3D1&page=149
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 03:48 AM   #1554
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Does anyone know why this project wasn´t added to supertalls in our forum?
http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.p...e%3D1&page=149
Because it is on the fringe of being 300m. If it is not supertall it is in the skyscraper section and can be moved once confirmed taller than 300m.

Just found this on gaoloumi which is definately taller than 300m

http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.p...age%3D1&page=5

A new exhibition at the Nanjing Urban Planning Center next to Xuanwu Lake. Plan to go there soon I suppose...

Look at post 46 This one looks more than 600m and could be the tallest in Jiangsu Province...
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 10:32 AM   #1555
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Nice info, thank you
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This is Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates's Guiyang City proposal. Unknown height.


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Absolutely amazing!!
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Can buildings taller than the Shanghai Tower be developed within Shanghai? Because other Chinese cities are already developing megatall buildings taller than the Shanghai Tower.
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Tour de la Bourse, Montreal, 1964

The design of this elegant tower looks inspired by the Tour de la Bourse tower in Montreal, which opened in 1964.
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skyscraper like the taiphe 101 cost a quarter of a million $ a month for maintaince alone.
this means a lot chinese real estate developer or banking institiution going get financial implosion.
wonder why the chinese government refuse to stop this skyscraper building craze.
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