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Old April 30th, 2009, 06:01 PM   #181
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It's very noisy, but slows the traffic significantly. Such roads are common in smaller villages in Silesia - no need for repaving for 70 years
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Old April 30th, 2009, 09:34 PM   #182
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It's very noisy, but slows the traffic significantly. Such roads are common in smaller villages in Silesia - no need for repaving for 70 years
Such pavement is nice, but IMO it belongs to pedestrian zones or streets where traffic is very slow (like 20-30 km/h). In higher speeds and not to mention during rain it becomes very dangerous. Tyres don't have good grip on such pavement and thus it's totally unacceptable on nowadays national roads. That's also why this last stretch is going to be repaved. It stayed there so long because traffic is very low there since this road is parallel to motorway D2. But, locals said they will use the stones and pave some calm street with them, because they like them.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 04:22 PM   #183
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http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...97E3F4DF21871C

Very interesting report from DDR in 1990

Motorways...towns, Berlin

Reccomended to watch
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Old August 19th, 2009, 12:30 AM   #184
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Cobblestone section, picture from 50s
Cobblestone motorway?? This must be the first time I see this!

Now how about a wooden pavement motorway
That would be nice, or at least with wooden hard shoulders!

Edit: wooden road, as in:

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Old August 19th, 2009, 10:00 AM   #185
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The A6 in Poland used to have some cobblestone sections until a couple of years ago, right?

I think this picture is Verso's, I found it on Google:

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Old August 19th, 2009, 01:45 PM   #186
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At least it is history for real now
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Old August 19th, 2009, 04:57 PM   #187
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I haven't been to Poland, Timon. I think I found it on that Berlinka website, and I think this particular part wasn't a motorway officially (I think neither expressway), but it surely looks bad.

I'll look at those videos, Mateusz, it sounds interesting!
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Old August 19th, 2009, 08:21 PM   #188
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They really are. They really makes me feel like in Poland in early 90s.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 08:25 PM   #189
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some historical movies



Driving on the autobahn 1937 countryroads vs motorways
[youtube]mDWH1KDleMw[7youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDWH1KDleMw


and the last clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FvS6f2g3Bw




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50 jaar geschiedenis van de E40 - Dutch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JCU6ENeqs

pictures of the reichsautobahn
http://images.google.de/images?hl=de...art=21&ndsp=21

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Old August 20th, 2009, 11:41 PM   #190
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Somewhere in Poland, probably '70. Milita's car, FSO Polonez
This is Warsaw. Behind this gentelmen - Trasa Łazienkowska. I would say late '70s, or early '80 (beginning of Polonez manufacturing - May 1978)
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Old August 21st, 2009, 02:38 AM   #191
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Let me fix that for you.

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Driving on the autobahn 1937 countryroads vs motorways
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Old August 21st, 2009, 12:29 PM   #192
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2 old videos from Hungary. Its M7 in the videos,since only that existed in the 70's.



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Old August 21st, 2009, 01:47 PM   #193
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look at that "yellow angel" in the 1st video at 1:17...

maybe that car was chosen to make broken car owners laugh...
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Old August 21st, 2009, 04:12 PM   #194
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Ex-Reichsautobahn in Silesia
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Old August 21st, 2009, 08:16 PM   #195
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look at that "yellow angel" in the 1st video at 1:17...
Look at the plates of the broken Fiat 125... Austrian car from Wien or am I wrong?
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 12:17 AM   #196
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Seems like Fiat 125 was fairly poular abroad

Our newsreels always called Western countries as 'High developed countries' often without mentioning names
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Old August 24th, 2009, 06:38 PM   #197
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Looks like he M7 was (is?) a good road.
Very bad drivers though. But I lived in Portugal so I can't say much.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 06:44 PM   #198
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The second video( I assume the bad drivers are in that) is an educational movie about how to(or how not to) drive on motorways.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 07:06 PM   #199
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I think, that second video is more like educational - how to drive and not to drive on motorway.
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Old August 26th, 2009, 10:30 PM   #200
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Such pavement is nice, but IMO it belongs to pedestrian zones or streets where traffic is very slow (like 20-30 km/h). In higher speeds and not to mention during rain it becomes very dangerous. Tyres don't have good grip on such pavement and thus it's totally unacceptable on nowadays national roads. That's also why this last stretch is going to be repaved. It stayed there so long because traffic is very low there since this road is parallel to motorway D2. But, locals said they will use the stones and pave some calm street with them, because they like them.
Stone pavement is really good INSIDE URBAN AREAS ... keeps speeds at a reasonable level (even when the driver want's to pass the urban zone at speed he is faced with the thundersound/bumpiness of the road and feels compeled to reduce his speeding.

Overe here (in portugal) they use stone roadbed in Pedestrian crossings , slowing down /traffic calming areas , and even in complete sections of "water filled" terrain (where the soil is prone to water infiltration and the usual trackbed doesn't provide good enoug drainage).

Urban renewal plans are also packed with stone sidewalk and roadbeds everywhere.








Off-topic: stone pavement is not dead at all ... in fact granit stone pavement is one of the largest portuguese raw material exports ...
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