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Old January 7th, 2012, 07:24 PM   #441
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Another issue with climbing lanes is that the shoulder driving lane ends at the top of the hill, causing trucks to be forced to the left lanes at a slow speed.
In Slovenia climbing lanes end further away, so trucks can gain speed (the only good thing about our climbing lanes).
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Old January 8th, 2012, 10:17 AM   #442
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....In 1947 near Novara opened the first motorway rest area in the world (Autogrill Pavesi)....
Interesting pictures! But I'd bet money that the Pennsylvania Turnpike and Merritt Parkway both had service areas when they opened in 1940.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 11:16 AM   #443
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Interesting pictures! But I'd bet money that the Pennsylvania Turnpike and Merritt Parkway both had service areas when they opened in 1940.
Well, maybe it was the first in Europe. When the first expressway in the US opened? How many countries had motorways or expressways before WWII?
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 04:00 PM   #444
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Well, maybe it was the first in Europe. When the first expressway in the US opened? How many countries had motorways or expressways before WWII?

1943 Hungary 16km expressway

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Old January 8th, 2012, 04:27 PM   #445
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1943 Hungary 16km expressway

http://filmhiradok.nava.hu/watch.php?id=5524#
Very similar to the original "Autostrada dei Laghi".
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Old January 8th, 2012, 04:30 PM   #446
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Old January 8th, 2012, 05:27 PM   #447
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Well, maybe it was the first in Europe. When the first expressway in the US opened? How many countries had motorways or expressways before WWII?
There are a lot of expressways/freeways in the New York area (some of them getting a good distance from the city, on Long Island or to the north) today that were opened as early as the 20s but may not have been expressways/freeways at the time. (By the way, I'm using the words "expressway" and "freeway" to mean the same thing - a limited-access road, no driveways, no grade crossings.... In official U.S. definitions an expressway is something short of that, but everyone, and I mean everyone, from the Northeast to Chicago, except roadgeeks and specialists, uses them for that, with "expressway" being the dominant term.) The West Side Highway in Manhattan (although I'm not sure it was called that), which no longer exists, looks to me as if it was an expressway by any standards when it opened about 1930. You could even argue for the Harlem River Drive in upper Manhattan, which opened in the 1890s as a place to race horses and carriages and so on, which converted to automobile use in the 1910s, and a privately-owned toll road called the Long Island Motor Parkway that also opened...I forget when, say somewhere between 1905 and 1915...It closed in the 30s.

The first long-distance intercity freeway/motorway/expressway was the Pennsylvania Turnpike: a 160-mile (about 250-km) segment, from Carlisle (west of Harrisburg) to Irwin (near Pittsburgh), opened in 1940. It was, and still is, a toll road. I believe it even had no speed limits at first.

Also in North America, I believe the Queen Elizabeth Way, connecting the Niagara area to Toronto, opened around 1940. But I don't think it has service areas in the European sense.

As you may know, toll-free Interstates in the U.S. do not have commercial facilities (restaurants, etc.) on them: a "rest area" is a parking area with toilet facilities, picnic tables, maybe vending machines, sometimes tourist information. This is because at the time the legislation funding the system was enacted, there were people in Congress worried about businesses in small towns that relied on through traffic. So instead you get that sort of thing at exits (which at least means there's competition....) Toll roads will have "service areas" where you will find restaurants, or fast-food places or Starbucks, or several of them, or gift shops.... (I've never heard of a hotel at one.) What you describe as a "rest area" - the one in Italy with the restaurant - I'd call a "service area." Just to be clear, the Pennsyvania Turnpike has service areas. :-)

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1943 Hungary 16km expressway

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1943 wasn't before World War II; it was during. :-)

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1943 Hungary 16km expressway

http://filmhiradok.nava.hu/watch.php?id=5524#
Main road 4 between the city-center and Ferihegy airport?
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Old January 9th, 2012, 12:02 AM   #449
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1962: when the motorway was upgraded to 2x2, was completed the bridge structure containing the restaurant. Other 11 similar rest areas were built across Italy in the following years.
That's a very familiar design on the Northern Italian motorways indeed. Interesting to read that there is eleven of them.

Here you can see one in its current state on Streetview. I think it's even the one pictured?
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That's a very familiar design on the Northern Italian motorways indeed. Interesting to read that there is eleven of them.

Here you can see one in its current state on Streetview. I think it's even the one pictured?
Are there any rest area above the motorway outside Italy?
It's a pity that we abandoned this design for newer rest areas.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 12:30 AM   #451
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Are there any rest area above the motorway outside Italy?
It's a pity that we abandoned this design for newer rest areas.
There are several on the Spanish AP-7.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 07:32 AM   #453
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Old January 9th, 2012, 08:30 AM   #454
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Are there any rest area above the motorway outside Italy?
It's a pity that we abandoned this design for newer rest areas.
Belgium has lots of these restaurants.(they are all butt ugly overhere) There is also one in The Netherlands. Autogrill seems to have lots of these resaturants around the world.




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Old January 9th, 2012, 09:16 AM   #455
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Are there any rest area above the motorway outside Italy?
It's a pity that we abandoned this design for newer rest areas.
The so-called Oases on the Illinois tollway system (around Chicago, basically). I was out there a few months ago; they're pretty cool. (As cool as a service area can be....)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Tollway_oasis
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Main road 4 between the city-center and Ferihegy airport?
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Old January 10th, 2012, 01:28 AM   #457
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The two I know about of in Sweden, both built in the 80´s though, so not very old.

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Nyköping. I think this one looks a bit ragged...
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And one in Croatia, on Zagreb bypass
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Old January 10th, 2012, 02:26 PM   #459
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I always wanted to visit one rest area that is constructed like the ones you guys posted above. Unfortunatelly I couldn't find on on my roads... And I don't remember that one from Zagreb bypass... I see that I missed it...
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it is only closed pedestrian overpass. restaurants and bars are at the sides.

my favourite (and one of the best service areas i have visited) is Lançon en Provence, France. i have found only this photo:



wonderful tarte au framboises!
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