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Old August 9th, 2012, 12:14 PM   #501
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They also wanted to make sure everyone knows that Berlin is "Hauptstadt der DDR"... no East Berlin but the whole thing
"East-Berlin" was only used in the West.

West-Berlin was written Berlin (West) in the GDR.
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Old August 9th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #502
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"East-Berlin" was only used in the West.

West-Berlin was written Berlin (West) in the GDR.
I find amusing that they put "Hauptstadt der DDR", regardless of Berlin or Ost-Berlin. It's like they write "Roma - Capitale d'Italia" or "London - Capital city of UK" in signs. Everyone knows that, there's no need. It's like they wanted to send a message to westerners that the whole Berlin is Hauptstadt der DDR, not "East-Berlin" as westerners say.
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Old August 9th, 2012, 12:51 PM   #503
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@chris: you can see such situations in Italy in front of their confusing signs with 30 destinations
And in Austria too.
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Old August 9th, 2012, 01:45 PM   #504
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It's like they wanted to send a message to westerners that the whole Berlin is Hauptstadt der DDR, not "East-Berlin" as westerners say.
That is the real reason. It was one of the slogans from the cold war era emphasizing DDR's willingness to acquire the whole Berlin.

After the unification, there was quite a heavy discussion whether Bonn or Berlin would be the capital. I was driving on B96 from Stralsund to Berlin, and a few of the DDR-time signs were still in place. In a few places, someone had masked out the part "der DDR", and the sign was showing "Berlin Haupstadt".
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Old August 9th, 2012, 02:28 PM   #505
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If you want you can look at these Youtubemovies about the motorways in GDR, but these are in German

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Old August 9th, 2012, 04:46 PM   #506
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They also wanted to make sure everyone knows that Berlin is "Hauptstadt der DDR"... no East Berlin but the whole thing
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"East-Berlin" was only used in the West.

West-Berlin was written Berlin (West) in the GDR.
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Most Westerners called the Western sectors "Berlin", unless further distinction was necessary. The West German Federal government officially called West Berlin "Berlin (West)", whereas the East German government commonly referred to it as "Westberlin"; it began to use "Berlin (West)" only in the late 1980s. Starting from 31 May 1961, East Berlin was officially called Berlin, Capital of the GDR (German: Berlin, Hauptstadt der DDR), replacing the formerly used term Democratic Berlin), or simply "Berlin", by East Germany, and "Berlin (Ost)" by the West German Federal government. Other names used by West German media included "Ost Berlin", "Ostberlin", or "Ostsektor". These different naming conventions for the divided parts of Berlin when followed by individuals, governments, or media commonly indicated their political leanings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Be...ng_conventions
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Old August 9th, 2012, 04:57 PM   #507
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"Most Westerners called the Western sectors "Berlin".

If by "westerners" they mean people from Western Europe, this is just wrong. In Italy it was always "Berlino Ovest". "Berlino" referred to the whole city.
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Old August 9th, 2012, 05:21 PM   #508
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Finland

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Kärkinen ferry in 1960's and the current bridge opened in 1997. Road 610.





Ahveninen ferry in early 1960's and the current bridge from about 1962





An international cable ferry connection between Finland and Sweden. Ferry agreed in 1949, bridge opened in 1972. Road 937 in Finland, 402 in Sweden. Finnish Customs office in the black-and-white photo. Bridge photo taken in Finland.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 08:00 PM   #509
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Madrid.

M-30 Motorway, (probably) the most busiest of the EU…


M-30 Av. de la Paz (1974).


M-30 Av. de la Paz (1974).


M-30 Av. de la Paz (1974).


M-30 Av. de la Paz (1974).


M-30 Avenida de la Paz (1974).


M-30 Puente Ventas (Ventas's Bridge) (1974).


M-30 Puente Toledo (Toledo's Bridge) (1974).


M-30 Puente Toledo (Toledo's Bridge) (Late 90's ~ Early 00's).


M-30 Puente Toledo (Toledo's Bridge) (Nowadays).


M-30 Puente 3 Ojos (Three eyes Bridge) (Mid 80's). Nowadays: http://goo.gl/maps/gIBkk .


M-40 Motorway Inaguration.


M-40 E-90, Salida 22, "Tanatorio M-40" (Exit 22, "M-40 Funeral Home") (1990).


M-40 E-90, Nudo Supersur (South Link) (1991).


N-IV Expressway.


Carretera de Andalucia / Autovia de Andalucia (Andalucia Highway / Motorway) (70's), Noawadays A-4 E-5 Motorway.

Atocha Scalextric.


Atocha Scalextric (70's).


Atocha Scalextric (70's).
Nowadays http://goo.gl/maps/wOHS9 .



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Old August 19th, 2012, 10:01 PM   #510
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Neat!
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Old September 1st, 2012, 02:46 AM   #511
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Wow... with the photos!!!!



N-340 is known in Spain because coming from Cadiz, crosses all the Mediterranean until Barcelona, being the longest road.

Just before end, it cross close, close to the Triumphal Arc, built by Romans.
Main Roman city in Iberian peninsula was Tarraco (Tarragona) so in that area there are a lot of Roman buildings.

In fact, nowadays it is part of a roundabout... you go driving and in the middle of the road you find a Roman monument!!






But for a while... take a look to this old photo!!!!!!


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Old September 22nd, 2012, 12:06 PM   #512
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Los Angeles, 1953


Los Angeles, 1959


New York, 1958
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New York 1964


Atlanta 1968


Seattle 1962


Los Angeles 1965
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 02:11 PM   #514
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Los Angeles - Hollywood Freeway 1950


Los Angeles 1954


San Francisco 1957
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Old September 23rd, 2012, 11:05 PM   #515
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Love these old pics of US-cities, they look so stylish, e.g. the 2nd one of LA and the NY one.
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Old September 24th, 2012, 02:46 AM   #516
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Brazil,Via ANCHIETA



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Old September 24th, 2012, 04:10 PM   #517
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If I'm not wrong, Hollywood Fwy is the first 2x4-freeway in history! When was it built? Those pics are awesome, while in 1950 people were driving home on 2x4-laned motorways via McDonald's in the US, Europe was struggling with post-war poverty, the dictatorship of Stalin and a really inferior level of infrastructure!

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Old September 24th, 2012, 04:12 PM   #518
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The first part of the Hollywood Freeway opened in 1940, but it wasn't widened from 6 to 8 lanes until the 1960s.
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Old September 24th, 2012, 04:21 PM   #519
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You don't mean the Pasadena Freeway (then named the Arroyo Seco Parkway)?
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No that one is older and has not been widened to 4 lanes each way. The Hollywood Freeway first opened in 1940, but was just a little over a mile long. The rest of the freeway was mainly constructed during the 1950s and was likely an 8-lane facility from the beginning. The northern part of the Hollywood Freeway was constructed in the 1960s.
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