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Old September 20th, 2013, 04:15 PM   #741
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So what about that gold? They keep them there?
Yes. Not enough gold to start digging.
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Old September 20th, 2013, 05:12 PM   #742
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The Zone A was the Italian.
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Old September 20th, 2013, 05:37 PM   #743
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Tauern Autobahn Austria


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It is 192 km (119 mi) long, 24 km (15 mi) of which are in 12 tunnels.


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After the Austrian Anschluss to Nazi Germany, plans were drawn up by the Organisation Todt to build a motorway from Salzburg to the Carinthian capital Klagenfurt as part of the Reichsautobahn network.
Initial sections near the interchange with the later West Autobahn in the southern suburbs of Salzburg and a tunnel near Spittal an der Drau were already under construction when work ceased in 1942 because of World War II.
Construction was not resumed until 1968




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Old September 20th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #744
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German prisoners of war in March 1945



close to Salzburg 1937



Since 1974 recommended speed is 130.

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Old September 20th, 2013, 06:13 PM   #745
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Sorry for an OT, but Switzerland seems to have oldest licence plates format in Europe or not?
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Old September 20th, 2013, 08:30 PM   #746
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Liechtenstein (since 1920).
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Old September 21st, 2013, 03:38 PM   #747
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1934 Italian motorway plan (black: already built)
The map shows Italy in 1947 borders but A4 was planned also between Trieste and Fiume.
Interesting thing, they already planned a sort of "Passante di Mestre".
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old September 21st, 2013, 03:52 PM   #748
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Swiss plate format is the same since 1933 (I like very much this "steadiness". Nothing is worse than changing format every couple of years).
Somewhere in the past, the front plate was slightly modified (it became smaller in size), but the rest remained the same ...
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Old September 21st, 2013, 04:52 PM   #749
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1934 Italian motorway plan (black: already built)
The map shows Italy in 1947 borders but A4 was planned also between Trieste and Fiume.
Interesting thing, they already planned a sort of "Passante di Mestre".
I did`t know that current motorway A11 Firenze-Viareggio is the one of the oldest sections in Italy
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Old September 21st, 2013, 08:31 PM   #750
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All the motorways built before the war had only one carriageway, the A11 was completely rebuilt with two carriageways in the 1960.

Some old sections were abandoned, as for example here.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 08:54 PM   #751
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All the motorways built before the war had only one carriageway, the A11 was completely rebuilt with two carriageways in the 1960.

Some old sections were abandoned, as for example here.
Interesting, I didn't know about that remaining stretch

Nature is slowing destroying the asphalt, after half century without traffic...
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Old September 21st, 2013, 09:11 PM   #752
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There are some abandoned motorways in Czech republic too.

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We have one abandoned motorway in Slovakia too, but it is not so old. The construction started in 1997 and was cancelled in 1999. The section was 20 % finished.

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Old September 21st, 2013, 09:13 PM   #753
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That looks quite mint if that hasn't been touched for 14 years.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 09:19 PM   #754
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That looks quite mint if that hasn't been touched for 14 years.
It is still on hold since 1999. I don't know how come it could look that mint. Here is project information
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There are some abandoned motorways in Czech republic too.

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Why was this short stretch abandoned?
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 12:45 PM   #756
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This short stretch was abandoned because Germany lost the Second World War. The new motorway built by Czechs is close to the unfinshed road.
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 08:51 PM   #757
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Some photos from my neighbourhood near D2 motorway in Slovakia

Southeastern portal of Tunnel Sitina (2005) - click here for current view


Mlynská dolina (1944) - current view


Former trunk road - now part of D2 motorway (2004) - current view


Without bypass - current view
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 10:07 PM   #758
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I posted this image on Italian forum...
the first motorway in the world was Milan-Varese (Milan-lakes motorways) opened in september 1924
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Old September 23rd, 2013, 07:56 PM   #759
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Border crossing Austria -Yugoslavia at Kniepssattel (1980)

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Old September 23rd, 2013, 08:03 PM   #760
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I posted this image on Italian forum...
the first motorway in the world was Milan-Varese (Milan-lakes motorways) opened in september 1924
Nope. First one was Long Island Parkway, opened in 1908.
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