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Old January 31st, 2015, 09:15 PM   #1061
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A16 Napoli-Bari,Italy

Part 2 :
Inaugurazione (10.12.1969)

Nei pressi di Napoli (1965)
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Old January 31st, 2015, 09:17 PM   #1062
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A16 Napoli-Bari,Italy

Part 3:
Operazione di esazione

Ponte sul fiume Ufita (1968)

Viadotto sull'Ofanto (1966)
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Old January 31st, 2015, 09:18 PM   #1063
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A16 Napoli-Bari,Italy

Part 4 :
Viadotto Vallone delle Volpi

Source:http://www.autostrade.it/en/comunica...16-napoli-bari
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Old January 31st, 2015, 09:48 PM   #1064
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Was that viaduct (aquеduct) on this picture partial demolished because of the construction of this highway? It seems it was!
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Old January 31st, 2015, 09:52 PM   #1065
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Maybe.I don't live in Italy,so i can't tell you the right answer
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Old January 31st, 2015, 10:08 PM   #1066
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Was that viaduct (aquеduct) on this picture partial demolished because of the construction of this highway? It seems it was!
It was, but that aqueduct isn't Roman:

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquedotto_del_Nottolini
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Old January 31st, 2015, 11:50 PM   #1067
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is italian tolling system the oldest in Europe?
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Old February 1st, 2015, 01:14 AM   #1068
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It was, but that aqueduct isn't Roman:

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquedotto_del_Nottolini
Yes, a part of it was demolished when the highway was duplicated in 1962. Now they would probably have dug a tunnel beneath it.
The first carriaggeway was opened already in 1933.
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is italian tolling system the oldest in Europe?
I think so, since it started in 1924.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old February 1st, 2015, 01:17 PM   #1069
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is italian tolling system the oldest in Europe?
If you understand "tolling system" as being only for motorways, so yes Italy had the first tolled "Autostrada" in Europe.
By the way, this "Autostrada" had nothing in common with today's definition of a motorway: it had non-separated 2-3 lanes, suicide lane to overtake, at-grade junctions, but was reserved for motorized vehicles only (a "revolution" at the time).
But, if it's for road tolls in overall, it was very common throughout Europe in the Middle Ages, and until the 20th century.
So, the concept wasn't new at all when it was introduced for this first "Autostrada" at the time.

Autostrada dei Laghi toll booth near Milan, 1929:


[IMG]http://i49.************/11jcgfk.jpg[/IMG]

Inauguration of Autostrada dei Laghi, 21 September 1924:
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Old February 1st, 2015, 01:27 PM   #1071
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I think the Italian autostrade was the first tolled road for high-speed traffic in Europe.

Of course, there were historic turnpikes that date back to the middle ages. And toll bridges have been around since the beginning of motorization. Tolls also existed on Roman Roads 2500 years ago.

However, there was one motor vehicle toll road before the Italian autostrade, the Long Island Motor Parkway near New York in 1908.
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Old February 1st, 2015, 07:21 PM   #1072
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Is there somewhere in Germany (or Austria, Poland, Russia's Kaliningrad oblast) a stretch of Reichautobahn still preserved in its original shape? For example some short stretches that were bypassed by new allignments instead of being upgraded in site.
In Germany, there are no original parts anymore. However, there are some historical ramps and such things on some motorways. But they aren't in service anymore.
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Is there somewhere in Germany (or Austria, Poland, Russia's Kaliningrad oblast) a stretch of Reichautobahn still preserved in its original shape? For example some short stretches that were bypassed by new allignments instead of being upgraded in site.
The only untouched segment of RAB Breslau-Gleiwitz (about 100m):
http://maps.google.pl/maps?ll=50.346...355.28,,1,7.46

There is also a whole 70 km of old RAB Berlin-Breslau, still with original pavement
https://maps.google.pl/maps?saddr=DK...319.25,,1,7.91

More untouched parts of RAB Berlin-Konigsberg
https://maps.google.pl/maps?q=elbl%C...206.43,,1,5.51

There are also some unused viaducts on RAB Breslau-Wien
https://maps.google.pl/maps?q=brno&h...,110.22,,0,0.6
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Old February 2nd, 2015, 08:51 AM   #1074
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And the section RAB Berlin - Stettin - Konigsberg - east of Szczecin - now DW142 https://www.google.pl/maps/place/Szc...5adc4e5f8ac4f3

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Old February 2nd, 2015, 09:35 AM   #1075
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Look at post #1048
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Old February 9th, 2015, 11:35 PM   #1076
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Year 1941:


http://www.rtvslo.si/blog/herta-5j9o/?&date=2012&page=6

This must be in Ptuj (now Slovenia), because Ormož is just 23 km away (btw, Budapest is 340+ km away, not 34). Too bad I can't read towns on the right arrows, but I think it says Ljubljana on the bottom one (I think I see "LJ" in the beginning and in the middle of the name). It could say Maribor on the top one, but I don't know about the middle one (only Slovenska Bistrica comes to my mind).
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Old February 10th, 2015, 11:51 PM   #1077
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Just stretch the picture horizontally...



Maribor
Rogaska Slatina ?? Rogatec Slatina ??
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Old February 11th, 2015, 12:59 AM   #1078
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Great trick! Yes, indeed it says Rog(aška) Slatina.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 10:45 AM   #1079
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More: First motorways in Slovakia (note, this is the first time the photos were published):
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aside from the sign could have been taken yesterday

at first I saw "malacky" and read it as Greek
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