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Old February 12th, 2015, 04:39 AM   #1081
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Old February 12th, 2015, 08:12 PM   #1082
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Poland, A4 under construction, Prądy interchange (DK46), 1990s. Current view


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Old April 16th, 2015, 08:47 PM   #1083
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Some pictures I found on a cool Facebook page about Spanish roads called EN LA CARRETERA.

M-30 in Madrid, early 1990s (looks like the Eastern arc):



Same road, same time, different place (M-30 West I guess):



Some flyover in Madrid, early 1990s too (didn't identify the exact location):

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Old April 17th, 2015, 12:21 AM   #1084
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Some flyover in Madrid, early 1990s too (didn't identify the exact location):

It is "calle joaquin costa" bridge over "paseo de la castellana". The buiding in front is part of the "nuevos ministerios" government office complex.

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Old April 17th, 2015, 12:43 AM   #1085
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Same road, same time, different place (M-30 West I guess):

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Old April 17th, 2015, 12:59 AM   #1086
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Some flyover in Madrid, early 1990s too (didn't identify the exact location):

Lada Samara was sold in Spain?
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Old April 17th, 2015, 01:44 AM   #1087
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Lada Samara was sold in Spain?
Don't know about Spain, but it was definitely marketed in W. Germany! Their slogan in the brochures was "Lada verspricht nicht - Lada garantiert". According to the brochures, there was a network of 700 Lada dealers across W. Germany at that time.
Let's not deny that from Socialist-block production, the Samara was one of the best cars, and so a real alternative for some budget buyers in the West.
(And of course non-Western non-Socialist countries like Turkey also imported a lot of them).
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Old April 17th, 2015, 09:34 AM   #1088
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Don't know about Spain, but it was definitely marketed in W. Germany!
Lada was sold all over Europe in the 1980's and even in the UK.

The new LADA Kalina and LADA Granta are marketed in Sweden. I dont know if they will sell much of those cars elsewhere in the western hemisphere.

Sad photo quality on those Madrid photos. Has the innercity traffic increased since the 1990's ? did they introduce tolls or license plate bans like they have in Paris ?
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Old April 17th, 2015, 10:00 AM   #1089
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The new LADA Kalina and LADA Granta are marketed in Sweden.
Lada Kalina is not best possible name in Finland. The word "kalina" means the sound of a soon-breaking engine. That is why the cars were sold as Lada 1117, 1118, and 1119.

The sales of Lada in Finland was brought down in 2012 after selling one car in 2011. In 2010, significantly higher number of cars were sold: four. That was a big drop from 2009 where 109 new Ladas were sold: 70 Nivas and 39 Kalinas.

There still are about 20000 Ladas in use in Finland (or at least registered).

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Old April 17th, 2015, 10:27 AM   #1090
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Lada Kalina is not best possible name in Finland. The word "kalina" means the sound of a soon-breaking engine. That is why the cars were sold as Lada 1117, 1118, and 1119.

The sales of Lada in Finland was brought down in 2012 after selling one car in 2011. In 2010, significantly higher number of cars were sold: four. That was a big drop from 2009 where 109 new Ladas were sold: 70 Nivas and 39 Kalinas.

There still are about 20000 Ladas in use in Finland (or at least registered).
Historically Finland was the "western" country with the best selling market for russian cars during the soviet times.
Selling one new car a year is an obvious reason for closing the general agency of Lada in Finland.

The Lada Niva hasnt changed much since 1977 except for a few facelifts. Who wants to buy this car when you have the more modern Dacia Duster at the same price.
The only advantage with the old Niva is that it's easy to repair.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 01:24 PM   #1091
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Lada Niva and Dacia Duster are not in the same league.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 01:27 PM   #1092
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Historically Finland was the "western" country with the best selling market for russian cars during the soviet times.
Selling one new car a year is an obvious reason for closing the general agency of Lada in Finland.

The Lada Niva hasnt changed much since 1977 except for a few facelifts. Who wants to buy this car when you have the more modern Dacia Duster at the same price.
The only advantage with the old Niva is that it's easy to repair.
I presume the "easy to repair" attribute is the key reason why the Russians bought back most of the used Ladas after the collapse of Soviet Union.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 02:40 PM   #1093
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I presume the "easy to repair" attribute is the key reason why the Russians bought back most of the used Ladas after the collapse of Soviet Union.
Those reimported finnish Ladas were considered to be of much higher value than the Ladas driven only in Russia, because the finnish roads didnt wear down the cars as much.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 08:47 PM   #1094
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Lada Samara was sold in Spain?
Yes. Lada entered Spain in the 1980s; the Niva was a huge success, like in France, and there are many left in mountain areas. The Samara (called the anti-Seat Ibiza by some Spanish magazines, due to the fact that both cars were engineered by Porsche ) sold quite well for the car it was -clearly behind its Western European counterparts, or other Eastern Bloc cars such as the Skoda Favorit. However, due to its poor reliability (and I guess bad customer service), there are almost none left today.

Late Trabants and Wartburgs, as well as some Dacias, AROs and even Polski Fiats, were also sold in Spain in the late 80s, but in much smaller numbers.

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Lada was sold all over Europe in the 1980's and even in the UK.

The new LADA Kalina and LADA Granta are marketed in Sweden. I dont know if they will sell much of those cars elsewhere in the western hemisphere.

Sad photo quality on those Madrid photos. Has the innercity traffic increased since the 1990's ? did they introduce tolls or license plate bans like they have in Paris ?
In the 1990s and 2000s M-40 and M-50 opened, relieving M-30 and the inner city streets. M-30 was also rebuilt and widened, and on its Southern part, a bypass was built (and the former route has been kept, so there are now two M-30s). Don't know if traffic is better or worse in the streets of the city. I guess it's better, like in Barcelona since 1992. Madrid ranks very low in TomTom's congestion ranking. It's one of the least congested European big cities -yet the city's municipal Government is preparing some draconian restrictions for car traffic .
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Old April 18th, 2015, 10:33 PM   #1095
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aside from the sign could have been taken yesterday

at first I saw "malacky" and read it as Greek
Not with that streetligts. They looks like 1960s och 1970s, but not today
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Old April 18th, 2015, 10:45 PM   #1096
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I love to drive on DW 142. Its like the forgotten motorway. An old secret motorway from the past. And also a little bit like a "ghostmotorway"

And it is so very special feeling when I drive from Berlin and ending at the little village Lisowo where this motorway ending.

Everytime I use this motorway I thinking about if the people in the village Lisowo knows about they are living close to a historical motorway?
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Old April 21st, 2015, 07:42 PM   #1097
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Historically Finland was the "western" country with the best selling market for russian cars during the soviet times.
Selling one new car a year is an obvious reason for closing the general agency of Lada in Finland.

The Lada Niva hasnt changed much since 1977 except for a few facelifts. Who wants to buy this car when you have the more modern Dacia Duster at the same price.
The only advantage with the old Niva is that it's easy to repair.
Lada and Moskvich were Finland's most popular cars until about 1990. Lada was marketed with the pretext that if there was any problem with the car, it was easy to fix just on the road. And well, after all they were cheap and Fiat/Opel copies..
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Old April 21st, 2015, 09:54 PM   #1098
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I love to drive on DW 142. Its like the forgotten motorway. An old secret motorway from the past. And also a little bit like a "ghostmotorway"

And it is so very special feeling when I drive from Berlin and ending at the little village Lisowo where this motorway ending.

Everytime I use this motorway I thinking about if the people in the village Lisowo knows about they are living close to a historical motorway?
Usually repaving bad road is a good thing, but I hope this one will never be repaved, as is a historical heritage!
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Old April 21st, 2015, 10:28 PM   #1099
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