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Old August 25th, 2015, 03:00 PM   #1181
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I made three trips to the ex-DRR in 1991, 1996, and 2001 in order to see the recovery and the development.

During the first trip, the plan to find nice places for picnic was abandoned: Most of the vehicles still were Trabis, and the air was full of their exhaust gas. At the same time, very efficient inefficiency was easily visible. For instance, most of the railway crossings were level ones. The barriers were operated by a human being, and they were closed according to the time table of the train. If the train was 30 minutes late, then the barriers were closed for 30 minutes.

The trip in 1996 took place among intensive construction. The most disastrous bridges and motorway junctions had been replaced. During that trip, tens of towns and villages were replacing their water and power systems. The travel time was unpredictable due to number of road works.

In 2001, the old border between BRD and DDR was not any more easily visible. Still, some distinctive marks were still visible, like the eastern type street lights. Earlier, the area of DDR was recognized from the triangular things at roads (below), but those were later adopted in the west, too.

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Old August 25th, 2015, 03:23 PM   #1182
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And obviously different pedestrian traffic lights!

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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 09:36 AM   #1183
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it's hard to believe that there was a communist regime like North Korea in the heart of Europe. I went there in 1987,
I think that this fact prove that DDR was not like DPRK. Have you ever tried to travel to DPRK? It would be far more difficult then traveling to any European socialist (not communist; "communist country" is an oxymoron) country. Even the trip to USSR was not very difficult.
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Old August 28th, 2015, 04:31 PM   #1184
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Old September 3rd, 2015, 06:16 PM   #1185
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Today I was at a library and I had the chance to look at a 1949 Italian encyclopedia.
At the entry "autostrada", it included the equivalent terms in other countries:
- routes pour automobiles in France (but it said that the Italian loanword autostrade was used too)
- motor road in the UK
- highspeed highway in the USA
- Autostrasse in Germany
All these terms, except the Italian autostrada, are obsolete now and were replaced by, respectively, autoroute, motorway, freeway and Autobahn. I though that the term Autobahn dated back to the 1930s.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old September 3rd, 2015, 06:26 PM   #1186
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Not true, word Autobahn appears already in 1927:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsautobahn
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Old September 3rd, 2015, 06:27 PM   #1187
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- routes pour automobiles in France (but it said that the Italian loanword autostrade was used too)
The term 'autostrade' is still commonly used in Flanders (Belgium).

Autostrade is plural, but it is used in any situation in Flanders, as far as I know the term 'autostrada' (singular) is not used there.

Older people in the Netherlands often use the word 'autobaan' (basically a loanword from German Autobahn). The correct term is 'autosnelweg', commonly shortened to 'snelweg' (fast road).
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Old September 3rd, 2015, 08:35 PM   #1188
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Autostrade was used in planning documents for what became autoroutes in Quebec, Canada (probably - invention of French word came interim)

Silesian part of PL says autobana instead of autostrada
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Old September 3rd, 2015, 08:41 PM   #1189
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Historical photos of motorways and roads in your country

Hi, do you have interest know History of motorways. The pics are nice but not describe real building, in 30 yrs ago. I like create road map with motorway (2x2 and more) in time. For example 1965 - 201_ according sources. I will help, If you want know history motorway sections too. I m able draw building of road map in: France, Spain, Poland (without dual carriageways), Italy, Austria, Slovakia, Czechia, Hungary, Benelux, ulgaria, Russia (only 1994), Turkey. I dont know but i like draw Belarus, former USSR and Yugoslavia, China, India, Middle east, Japan (mainly Tokio Expressways bridges), Korea, The United states, Mexico, Canada, Malaysia...
I create your country but send me sources (maps, text) to : [email protected] ; maybe be statistics number of motorways (km), vehicles, traffic in sections.
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Old September 4th, 2015, 10:04 PM   #1190
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Old Swedish streetlight. This model was very common everywhere in Sweden in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. This model is very similar to the Polish ones from the same time. So Sweden actually had a very Eastern European style during the Cold War era. Today there are almost no remains of them in Sweden. Almost all are replaced with more modern ones.
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Old September 9th, 2015, 03:08 PM   #1191
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http://yle.fi/aihe/artikkeli/2008/05...-ja-uusi-silta

A historical video, constructing the Eastern Access's Kulosaari Bridge in Helsinki from 1955. Why it seems all was and were so optimistic back then! The old congested wooden bridge dated from 1918, and was in very critical condition, nearly collapsed, so they stopped tram traffic on it in the beginning of the 1950's.

The construction of the bridge and the expressway going through the recently annexed Kulosaari neighborhood was started in 1950, and finished in 1957. First they planned to build the metro in the middle of the motorway, but as it was too narrow, the metro bridge finally was built in the 70's on the northern side of the car bridge, and third lanes were added in the 60's on the road, dunno the exact time, but in 1970 they were temporarily converted into bus lanes before the metro system was finished. Sadly, there still are a huge quality of empty bus lanes and congested car lanes nearby in Helsinki, though it seems Helsinki's drivers have started to drive on the bus lanes too, as in the rest of Europe in some countries cars use shoulders on congested sections as lanes.

Until the construction of the Porvoo motorway far norther in 1971 the Eastern Access served as main route eastbound from Helsinki (National Routes 6/7).

The now vibrant central neighborhood of Sörnäinen was back then mainly an industrial area. Sadly most buildings were demolished. And sadly they didn't built the eastern central access while there was space.

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Old October 24th, 2015, 11:40 PM   #1192
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Cover of DJ Mix "Fabric Live 69" - looks like unfinished part of infrastructure. Location unknown.
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Old October 24th, 2015, 11:53 PM   #1193
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It would be interesting to find out where that is. A google image search does not result in any clues, and when you search for 'unused bridge', it doesn't come up in the first pages of results, suggesting this may be a bridge outside the English language area (maybe something like South Korea or Taiwan?) The bridge structure also doesn't look very familiar in Europe. The thin bridge deck suggests it may not be a road bridge.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 01:15 PM   #1194
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Are you aware, that the image might be old and the unfinished structure already completed? It could be anywhere and if someone does not have a clue where it could be (at least country), I am afraid we won't figure it out.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 02:00 PM   #1195
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I think there is a bigger chance that is has been demolished than finished. The structure looks old and outdated.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 02:15 PM   #1196
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That too, of course...
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Old October 25th, 2015, 03:55 PM   #1197
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Maybe someone can ask in the facebook page of the band.
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Old October 26th, 2015, 02:22 PM   #1198
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I think there is a bigger chance that is has been demolished than finished. The structure looks old and outdated.
It looks more an industrial structure rather than a part of road infrastructure.
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Old October 26th, 2015, 04:34 PM   #1199
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It is more like an industrial bridge

There is real bridge constructed over railway in Slovenia, built in 1940 for a future bypass of village Boštanj which was never constructed as war begun. It still sits there unused, someday it will be demolished.



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Old October 26th, 2015, 04:40 PM   #1200
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Now it's just like a old souvenir of WWII
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