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Old January 17th, 2016, 02:16 PM   #1241
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But in Romania, as well as Poland and Lithuania there are a lot of RHD's about anyway I believe. Imported from the UK. Some of them even still got UK plates. Also a lot of French plated import cars around...
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Old January 17th, 2016, 03:45 PM   #1242
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Yes, there are a lot of cars driving around Romania that are registered everywhere around Europe (many of them registered in UK or Ireland... so RHD). There are even cars imported from UK, with RHD, that are registered in Romania.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 05:00 PM   #1243
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(...)as well as Poland (...)there are a lot of RHD's about anyway I believe. Imported from the UK. Some of them even still got UK plates.
Basicallly there are not, maybe few, mostly during Christmass or Easters. Until recently, there was the ban on registration of RHD cars, but EU authorities state is against EU law.

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Also a lot of French plated import cars around...
Very occasionally, long ago I have not seen.

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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:45 PM   #1244
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I love to drive on DW 142. Its like the forgotten motorway. An old secret motorway from the past. And also a little bit like a "ghostmotorway"

And it is so very special feeling when I drive from Berlin and ending at the little village Lisowo where this motorway ending.

Everytime I use this motorway I thinking about if the people in the village Lisowo knows about they are living close to a historical motorway?
There's something like that in my country,but it isn't motorway


https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.73696...7i13312!8i6656


https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.74736...7i13312!8i6656



https://www.google.pl/maps/@43.28289...7i13312!8i6656
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:48 PM   #1245
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And so, what's that? if it isn't a motorway? seems an old highway
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Old January 17th, 2016, 10:08 PM   #1246
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It seems that people like pictures from the past. So, there's one more from Greece.

National Road 1, in Agios Stefanos (meaning Saint Stephen), in 1967. The overpass (or flyover) carries the Athens - Thessaloniki railway line.




This is how the same spot is nowadays. https://goo.gl/maps/QFRudAGvc2q
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Old January 17th, 2016, 10:42 PM   #1247
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It looks like a Cuban or North Korean "motorway".

2x2 roads with U-turns aren't common in Europe, while they are elsewhere (USA, Canada, Russia, Australia, Brazil,...). This road is probably a left-over from the Soviet times.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 03:24 PM   #1248
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It looks like a Cuban or North Korean "motorway".

2x2 roads with U-turns aren't common in Europe, while they are elsewhere (USA, Canada, Russia, Australia, Brazil,...). This road is probably a left-over from the Soviet times.
In Bulgaria it's an early expressway/motorway
First Bulgarian motorway opened in 1978.
So you may be right,it is looks like North Korean one. But it also looks like DW142 road from Poland.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 07:55 PM   #1249
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In Bulgaria it's an early expressway/motorway
First Bulgarian motorway opened in 1978.
So you may be right,it is looks like North Korean one. But it also looks like DW142 road from Poland.
Asphalt pavement looks like from 1978 too.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 08:15 PM   #1250
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You can check out many Spanish NO-DO (newsreel) videos in the website of RTVE. As these were mostly government propaganda, new roads and motorways were frequently featured . Here are some of them.

Inauguration of the motorway between Barcelona and Granollers (currently C-33):

http://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-1402/1486487/

Construction of the motorway Montgat-Mataró (current C-32):

http://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-1312/1486337/

Opening of a new bridge in Sevilla and the motorway between there and Dos Hermanas (currently downgraded to N-IV) by our then-Dear Leader :

http://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-1330/1487445/

Inauguration of the first duplicated stretch of current A-3, just outside Madrid:

http://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-1145/1475181/

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In Bulgaria it's an early expressway/motorway
First Bulgarian motorway opened in 1978.
So you may be right,it is looks like North Korean one. But it also looks like DW142 road from Poland.
It definitely looks like the first "motorways" (back then there were no laws stating how a motorway should look like) in my country . What's the story behind this road?
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Old January 18th, 2016, 08:27 PM   #1251
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You can check out many Spanish NO-DO (newsreel) videos in the website of RTVE. As these were mostly government propaganda, new roads and motorways were frequently featured . Here are some of them.

Inauguration of the motorway between Barcelona and Granollers (currently C-33):

http://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-1402/1486487/

Construction of the motorway Montgat-Mataró (current C-32):

http://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-1312/1486337/

Opening of a new bridge in Sevilla and the motorway between there and Dos Hermanas (currently downgraded to N-IV) by our then-Dear Leader :

http://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-1330/1487445/

Inauguration of the first duplicated stretch of current A-3, just outside Madrid:

http://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-1145/1475181/



It definitely looks like the first "motorways" (back then there were no laws stating how a motorway should look like) in my country . What's the story behind this road?
This was maybe be built before A1 Trakya Motorway opened in 1978.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 08:36 PM   #1252
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Asphalt pavement looks like from 1978 too.
Maybe the pre-Motorway be built same year as the one in Trakya.
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Old January 26th, 2016, 04:53 AM   #1253
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I found an interesting picture here -

http://daivavenckus.com/mysite/wp-co...tvtower034.jpg

It's taken in Vilnius close to the parliament. But the interesting thing is the road sign - I didn't know that road signs in the USSR were in the local language and Russian. It's obvious in hindsight, but still an interesting curiosity.
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Old January 26th, 2016, 05:27 AM   #1254
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They look the same as current Byelorussian signs

I'm not sure if it is so much "local language and Russian" as in "local languages" though especially at that time...
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Old January 26th, 2016, 04:00 PM   #1255
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I noticed that post vans in some remotely located areas in Sweden are RHD, as it is easier to drop a letter with no need to jump out of the vehicle.

This is still the case and not just some parts of the countryside but all rural area. It's convenient for the rural postman, especially as they often drive very far every day and don't have to step outside in the many days of bad weather.


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Interesting. I am quite sure I have read that the right-hand-drive cars were banned for a long time before 1967. But I have no hard evidence nor any reference available now.
When the first Swedish cars were built they were LHD, I suspect because the engineers looked to Germany for inspiration. Back then (1900-1950) except in the cities most drivers drove in the middle of the road yielding to the left for incoming traffic, thus position of the steering wheel wasn't an issue and in city traffic there were little option of overhauling in most cases anyway. Later LHD was established as a standard for export reasons (all neighbouring countries had traffic to the right).
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Old January 27th, 2016, 10:26 PM   #1256
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Sweden and Ireland must have been the only countries that insisted in driving on the left whilst not being a part of the British Empire. Suriname has left-hand driving now. No idea why...
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Sweden and Ireland must have been the only countries that insisted in driving on the left whilst not being a part of the British Empire. Suriname has left-hand driving now. No idea why...
You mean Iceland, that drove on the left until 1968. Ireland was part of the British empire until WWI. Iceland driving on the left was strange too, as it was a colony of Denmark, that has always driven on the right.
Also Japan drives on the left, albeit it has never be colonized by the Brits.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 12:28 AM   #1258
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Sweden and Ireland must have been the only countries that insisted in driving on the left whilst not being a part of the British Empire. Suriname has left-hand driving now. No idea why...
Simple. In the Netherlands right hand driving had been introduced in the first decennium of teh 20th century. However, the law didn't apply to the colonies of the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia now) and Suriname. So left hand traffic was never changed there. More European countries had left hand driving before WW-II, like (parts of) Austria.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 01:22 AM   #1259
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In Italy until around 1920 some areas drove on the right, other on the left.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 10:41 AM   #1260
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You mean Iceland, that drove on the left until 1968. Ireland was part of the British empire until WWI. Iceland driving on the left was strange too, as it was a colony of Denmark, that has always driven on the right.
Also Japan drives on the left, albeit it has never be colonized by the Brits.
Iceland switched from right to left druing the British occupation and later switched back again.
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