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Old November 21st, 2008, 03:06 AM   #121
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wow great!!!! fantastic report!
how long is N7 and how much time did u need from Paris to Nice?
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Old November 21st, 2008, 03:15 AM   #122
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I never drove it. LOL. But I know several of these places. Driving the N7 from Paris to Nice in the 1950s would have taken two days I imagine. Today there is the motorway (which still takes 8 hours and a half from Paris to Nice at 130 km/h), but even the N7 has been greatly improved since the 1950s, with deviations and beltways around towns and cities, so it wouldn't take as long as in the 1950s to drive from Paris to Nice on the N7 today.

Concerning the length of the N7, it was 996 km (it must have changed now, since they have modified the road in many places). Actually there's a French card game called Mille Bornes (i.e. "One thousand kilometers" in French slang) whose name comes from the length of the N7: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mille_Bornes
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 12:02 AM   #123
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Wow, great report, thanks for taking your time, brisavoine! I love these pics, it must've been a great journey back then.
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Old December 10th, 2008, 10:06 AM   #124
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Old December 10th, 2008, 04:28 PM   #125
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Nice pics, PLH
I'd like to see some pics of the old A2 in the Netherlands. Does anyone have those?
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Old December 10th, 2008, 05:25 PM   #126
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Bulgaria from the 1970's ...


This is the road Varna-Golden Sands [I-9], the first one is the interchange at Spirka "Pochivka" and the 2nd onr - the interchange for St. Konstantin & Helena resort.

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This is the right bridge of Vitinia viaduct, part of Hemus Motorway [A2]

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Old December 10th, 2008, 06:26 PM   #127
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The first picture is Počivka interchange as I told you in the thread about Bulgarian motorways. Edit the label.
Btw, where did you get those from?
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Old December 10th, 2008, 08:03 PM   #128
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And it lacks shoulders. I read the Netherlands was the first country in the world to construct shoulders at all motorways.
Technically the M1 did have hard shoulders when it opened on 2 November 1959. However, motorway hard shoulders at that time consisted of material which was stabilized to support the weight of large vehicles, and were intended to be covered with grass. (Americans call this type of shoulder "stabilized vegetated.") The standards were later changed to require a full paved hard shoulder when it was observed that people who pulled to the side and tried to change a flat tire could not tell where the hard shoulder ended and the verge began. The hard shoulder could support the weight of a jack, while the verge could not.
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Old December 10th, 2008, 08:51 PM   #129
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Actually, the Dutch A12 was opened in 1936 with shoulders.
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Were they paved and, if so, with what? What was the structural section?
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Old December 10th, 2008, 09:16 PM   #131
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It's not clear. The driving lanes had concrete slabs and the shoulder was "paved" and 2.5 meters wide. It is said to be the first in the world. Nowadays, Dutch shoulders are 3 - 3.5 meters wide.

Note that another section of A12 which opened in 1937 had bricks as pavement! (A concession to the brick industry of that time, and the fact the roadbed was not really consolidated yet. The region had clay with moor underneath it, so every roadbed just dissapeared after a while in the moors...
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Old December 10th, 2008, 09:22 PM   #132
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The first picture is Počivka interchange as I told you in the thread about Bulgarian motorways. Edit the label.
Btw, where did you get those from?
Done! And here's the source -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/3962536...7604514292390/
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Old December 10th, 2008, 09:43 PM   #133
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Thanks, Turnovec. It all looks so ordered... I know it was imposed by fear of the state's repressive mechanisms, but still... I'd like people to be more conscious and impose the order themselves. Now it's complete anarchy...
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Old December 10th, 2008, 11:26 PM   #134
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It was not imposed by the regime, not at the level you seem to think at least... It makes you visualise how terrible were the late years of communism and the anarchy after them for the population.

Great pictures from everywhere, I didn't know about this thread before- it's fantastic!
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Old December 10th, 2008, 11:30 PM   #135
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What I mean is that everything was controlled by the state, even people's attitude. Anyway, it's not the right thread for this... If you want to discuss it so badly, send me a private message.
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Old December 10th, 2008, 11:30 PM   #136
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what cars were the most often at bulgarian roads in communist times?
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Žigula, Lada, Moskvič, Trabant, Škoda, Volga, Wartburg...
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No Fiat 125 or Lada ?
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Old March 27th, 2009, 03:04 PM   #139
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No Fiat 125 or Lada ?
You mean polish FIAT ? We had of those too

There were some mercedes benz , alfa romeo, bmw etc. luxury cars, but only for the people from the higher circles of the party
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Old March 27th, 2009, 06:31 PM   #140
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No Fiat 125 or Lada ?
Of course we had LADAs, you can still see a lot of them on Bulgarian roads:

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