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Old July 17th, 2016, 06:25 PM   #1461
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PS: the first version, previous to 1969 (and I think since 1949/52):

taken from historical page of Autostrade per l'Italia's site
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Old July 19th, 2016, 06:17 PM   #1462
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Near the A23 motorway access of Udine Sud 1968-1969
note the sign of Motorway begin in early version.
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Old July 19th, 2016, 06:58 PM   #1463
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A23 Udine sud - Palmanova opened in 1966 together with A4 Palmanova - Monfalcone

Location of that photo should be there, due to the railway bridge. It's more northern than the current exit of Udine sud.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old July 19th, 2016, 09:49 PM   #1464
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Polish GMaps has some pale colors for roads; I don't like it.
I think that the pale roads are toll-roads!
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Old July 20th, 2016, 10:14 PM   #1465
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Yeah, but even yellow roads are pale, and white roads don't have edge.
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Old July 21st, 2016, 07:59 AM   #1466
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The Milan–Varese motorway in 1950.

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Old July 22nd, 2016, 01:56 AM   #1467
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Suicide lane!
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Old July 22nd, 2016, 09:53 AM   #1468
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Shouldn't it have double dashed line? It would be so according to the current regulations - although such places are very rare now and probably there is only a few of them in the whole Europe, and they also usually have traffic lights letting or forbidding to use this lane nowadays.

But in 1950 there was no traffic lights (or, at least, they were not common at all yet) and the traffic regulations didn't look like now.

About the color of roads in Poland on Google Maps, there is no distinction between free and toll roads on the map (although I remember there was in the past, and they have this data in their database, they use them for routing, you can choose that you want to avoid toll roads). Dark yellow, almost orange, is for highways and other limited-access roads while pale yellow is for normal main roads (basically national roads, even the more important streets in cities are white). And Poles did struggle with Google a lot to make also the express roads marked dark yellow, and not only the motorways. They are very similar to motorways, often fulfill higher standards than German Autobahns, and Google was stubborn to mark them pale yellow instead of dark yellow as the motorways.
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Old July 24th, 2016, 02:11 PM   #1470
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Westgate Bridge - under construction

Recently I found a brochure about the Westgate Bridge, Melbourne, as it was under construction. dated 1975

In one of the black + white pictures you may see the toll booths; tolls were removed in 1985. The front page, I wonder how many of today's Melbournians would recognise that as our own skyline!









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Old July 24th, 2016, 02:24 PM   #1471
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Nice catch. It was during metrication, as you can see by the measurements of the bridge works.
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Old July 31st, 2016, 08:25 PM   #1472
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Old July 31st, 2016, 09:13 PM   #1473
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1968 M1/7:








1968 M7 at Martonvásár:


1968 M7 at Sukoró:



1968 M7 resting area at Pákozd:


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Old July 31st, 2016, 09:28 PM   #1474
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1971 M1/7:



1971 M7:



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Old July 31st, 2016, 09:53 PM   #1475
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1975 - M7, petrol station:


1975 - M7, the new emergency telephone system:



1975 - M7, unknown bad guy from the Reservoir Dogs in truble:



1975 - M7 at Balatonvilágos:



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Old July 31st, 2016, 10:23 PM   #1476
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1975 - M7, the new emergency telephone system:
Looks very Dutch. Any idea whether Hungary indeed bought their system?

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Old July 31st, 2016, 10:34 PM   #1477
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Because this was a Philips system:


2x52 phone from 33 million HUF in 1974
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Old July 31st, 2016, 10:56 PM   #1478
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So for those not literate in Hungarian, a recap of the posted article:

Title: "Telephone along the road".

1st paragraph: Due to many new cars in Hungarian road traffic and strict technical inspection every three years, less "broken down" vehicles than before can be spotted. Yet these are not gone, and an unfortunately growing number of accidents result in a matter of luck for impacted persons so as to when assistance from another motorist, a mechanic, the police and paramedics will arrive on the spot.

2nd, 3rd paragraph: Growing motorization demands for modernization of road network, including multi-lane expressways and motorways. M7 became a real motorway when it was assigned a maintenance organization and in December 1974 the 35-million forints emergency call system was put into service.
The emergency calling system is among Europe's most advanced and was developed by Philips considering all previous experience in international road traffic.

Subtitle: "Two-way connection".

4th paragraph: explains why the calling posts have not been installed in an alternating way along both sides of the motorway, resulting in half the distance between any two posts. Simply because pedestrians are not allowed to walk on the motorway to get to a post on the opposite side.

5th paragraph: The connection between the calling posts and the maintenance center is two-way, thus the center may also call out to a post, e.g. to instruct emergency staff there to consider another incident which is along their way.

6th paragraph: mentions that the reader is "certainly astonished" about the high expenses to install this system. Says that it covers the motorway far from any built-up area, so was necessary in any case. On the rest of M7, expenses will be less since only a connection to the existing network is required.
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Looks very Dutch. Any idea whether Hungary indeed bought their system?

Thanks for posting in any event!
Italy was the first country to introduce emergency phones on motorways, starting in 1962.
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Old August 2nd, 2016, 12:08 AM   #1480
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E45 motorway near Arhus (Denmark) in 1968. That European road was numbered E3 until 1992.



Aparently Denmark used to have A-numbers too.
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