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Old August 3rd, 2016, 03:27 PM   #1481
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Looks very Dutch. Any idea whether Hungary indeed bought their system?

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in Croatia we had exactly the same emergency phones in Yugoslav period (now they are similar, slightly different)
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Old August 3rd, 2016, 11:36 PM   #1482
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HR bought a serie of those phones from NL, when they were replaced in NL by a newer type. In 2017 however the system will no longer be maintained in NL
Nearly everyone carries a cellphone nowadays...
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Old August 3rd, 2016, 11:46 PM   #1483
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Italy was the first country to introduce emergency phones on motorways, starting in 1962.
The Afsluitdijk in NL got ordinary telephonepoles every 5 km in 1955; a real emergency phone system was introduced in NL in 1960 on the motorway between The Hague and Rotterdam. That's 2 years earlier...
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The Afsluitdijk in NL got ordinary telephonepoles every 5 km in 1955; a real emergency phone system was introduced in NL in 1960 on the motorway between The Hague and Rotterdam. That's 2 years earlier...
I think I've read it on some webpage related to Autostrade per l'Italia company, so it probably wasn't very objective.
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Old August 4th, 2016, 11:18 AM   #1485
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HR bought a serie of those phones from NL, when they were replaced in NL by a newer type. In 2017 however the system will no longer be maintained in NL
Nearly everyone carries a cellphone nowadays...
And all new cars will have automatic emergency call in case of accident with new EU directive.
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Old August 4th, 2016, 03:20 PM   #1486
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I think I've read it on some webpage related to Autostrade per l'Italia company, so it probably wasn't very objective.
Claims about the oldest, earliest, longest, widest, largest, etc. always have to be taken with some caution.
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Old August 4th, 2016, 04:43 PM   #1487
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E45 motorway near Arhus (Denmark) in 1968. That European road was numbered E3 until 1992.



Aparently Denmark used to have A-numbers too.
There was no motorway anywhere near Aarhus (back then Århus) in 1968. The first motorway around Aarhus was opened in 1977. The A-numbers was not related to motorways, but was how all main roads were numbered.
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Old August 7th, 2016, 04:30 PM   #1488
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Monte Carlo roads in 1987

Monte Carlo street scene, June 1987 by Gösta Knochenhauer, on Flickr
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Old August 8th, 2016, 09:35 PM   #1489
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Finally found the old videos involving Bulgarian road signs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGs1eP5IQcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHhcF_VQTyw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEm6QdY9MzU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BieB72gQQN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BieB72gQQN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytgtlL2x6Pw
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Old August 8th, 2016, 09:45 PM   #1490
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Oh and some pre-Trakya Motorway signs
https://www.google.bg/maps/@42.47961...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.bg/maps/@41.99227...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.bg/maps/@42.47958...7i13312!8i6656
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Old August 9th, 2016, 10:13 AM   #1491
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https://www.google.bg/maps/@42.47961...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.bg/maps/@41.99227...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.bg/maps/@42.47958...7i13312!8i6656
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Old August 9th, 2016, 01:02 PM   #1492
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I hope that can be visible for all:
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Old August 10th, 2016, 10:42 PM   #1493
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First 40 seconds of this clip show Main Road 7 traffic in Fonyód (at Lake Balaton, Hungary) in 1986

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Old August 12th, 2016, 01:50 AM   #1494
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Vintage photo of a motorway in Sicily, location unknown



The article says it's from 1968, but I have some doubts, as Wikipedia says the first motorway in Sicily is A18 Catania-Messina, completed in 1971. But, it also says that works started in 1965, so maybe a part opened in 1968. I think this photo shows A18 either near Catania or Messina.

In 1960s Sicily, cars shared roads with more traditional means of transportation:



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Toll booth of Mestre on the "Autostrada Padova-Mestre" in the early 1950s. This 1+1 toll road was opened in 1933. It was duplicated into a motorway in 1962 and now it's part of A4 and A57.



http://www.mestreantica.it/page/10/
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original plan for a bypass of Oshawa, Ontario, Canada, dating from 1935. Part of the "Toronto - Oshawa highway", construction started in 1937, and most bridge structures were done by 1939. Unfortunately WW2 got in the way, and the project slowed to a crawl. The highway actually opened in 1942 with a gravel surface, and some at grade intersections remaining. The highway would not be paved and fully seperated until 1947. Many of the original bridges still exist today, though they will be replaced in the next few years. The highway has since been integrated as a part of the 401, which is considered the busiest highway on the planet (not this part exactly, though). The highway has since been widened to 6 lanes, and is planned to be widened further to 10 lanes in the future.





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Vintage photo of a motorway in Sicily, location unknown



The article says it's from 1968, but I have some doubts, as Wikipedia says the first motorway in Sicily is A18 Catania-Messina, completed in 1971. But, it also says that works started in 1965, so maybe a part opened in 1968. I think this photo shows A18 either near Catania or Messina.
It is certainly not Messina as you can't see city so well from motorway.
Above view looks like if you're coming to Catania from the south but then where is that large viaduct with railway beneath? There are no such viaducts around Catania. Last month I drove over all motorways in Sicily except A19 and I can't remember this sort of view.
I doubt that this photo is from Sicily.
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This photo is not taken from the motorway but from a point above and further away from the bridge. So you won't have nor had this view from the motorway itself. Also keep in mind the difference in viewing angle: While on the photo you look to the city, on the motorway you would drive parallel to the city. Only thing you would have seen there are the trees next to the motorway. So it's very difficult to find the place were this photo is taken.

And which railway?
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Anyone who drove to Catania from south knows that the view of the city is impressive and there are not much trees there to obscure the view. Quick look at GMaps shows that there are no straight viaducts with left curve on north end around Catania nor Palermo except one south of Catania that belongs to new motorway CT-SI which is fairly new. Messina has much more hilly environment and such plains, similar to those south of Catania, are not present there. Refineries are also not present around Messina (upper left on the picture)
Railway is clearly visible in the lower right corner.
I might be wrong but my spatial memory is really good.
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I think it's A19 between Bagheria and Palermo, looking northwest with the mountains behind Palermo just out of range. There is a matching tank farm 4 km northwest of this viaduct.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.0806.../data=!3m1!1e3
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