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Old September 18th, 2016, 06:45 PM   #1521
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The sign is no longer there. Blue "dobrodošli u Srbiju" is instead.
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Old September 18th, 2016, 10:49 PM   #1522
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[...] it's difficult to pinpoint which one exactly was the first fully controlled-access highway, most sources indicate the early-to-mid 1930s. [...]
Maybe ReichsAutoBahn?
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Old September 18th, 2016, 10:58 PM   #1523
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They were not in the New York area
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Old September 18th, 2016, 11:05 PM   #1524
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I was thinking at a global context
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Old September 19th, 2016, 04:06 PM   #1525
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Well, the first Reichsautobahn opened to traffic in 1935. However, the New York area has been building dual carriageways with some form of grade-separation since the early 1920s. That gradually evolved into full grade-separation by the early-to-mid-1930s, possibly before the first Reichsautobahn opened.
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Old September 19th, 2016, 04:27 PM   #1526
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A common misconception is to think that Pennsylvania turnpike (opened in 1940) is the first freeway in the US. Maybe was it the first non-urban freeway?
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Old September 19th, 2016, 04:41 PM   #1527
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The Pennsylvania Turnpike was the first long-distance controlled-access highway in the U.S. However back in the days Long Island wasn't nearly as developed as it was today, most parkways that are now urban highways were rural routes in the 1930s. In 1930, Queens had 1.4 million people less than today and Nassau County had only 300,000 inhabitants as opposed to 1.4 million in 1970.

The Merrit Parkway in Connecticut is also older than the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
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Old September 19th, 2016, 05:17 PM   #1528
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A brief video of A4 Venezia-Trieste in the '60, with commentary by former president of Autovie Venete concessionaire Emilio Terpin.

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Old October 1st, 2016, 11:29 PM   #1529
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A film on the first Swedish motorway construction between Malmö-Lund in 1952-1953:

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Old October 1st, 2016, 11:45 PM   #1530
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A film on the first Swedish motorway construction between Malmö-Lund in 1952-1953:
It seems like the increasing number of accidents was the reason for building the first motorway in Sweden between Lund-Malmö

Otherwise I presume that the main roads to Stockholm had more traffic back then.
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Old October 2nd, 2016, 09:21 PM   #1531
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It seems like the increasing number of accidents was the reason for building the first motorway in Sweden between Lund-Malmö

Otherwise I presume that the main roads to Stockholm had more traffic back then.

Between the outer town limits of Malmö - Lund, the old highway traversed three quite large villages (Arlöv, Åkarp, Hjärup) on a stretch of around 10 kms, following a route that goes back to medieval times. Even back then it was mostly built-up around the road. An improved road would either mean large-scale demolitions through already built-up areas (some houses are really close next to the road) or a new road in a new location.

In contrast, even though there were suburbania that had sprung up around Stockholm, as soon as you left staden innanför tullarna the most important highways (to Södertälje and Uppsala like E4 today) mostly passed by all the new development that had sprung up around 1900-1950 and where there had been improvements made in the interwar years (not only pavement but also by building 2+2-stretches north and south of Stockholm that passed close to these developments - You can see for yourself at Lantmäteriet: Historiska kartor Lantmäteriet ). When E4 was built as a motorway there in the 1960's, the motorway followed the 2+2-stretch built in the interwar years with grade separations added to it. To sum up, the largest roads near Stockholm were already in a much better shape (though with increase in traffic became more and more dangerous before grade separations were built).


I'd say it was the grade separations that made this road unique. And to put figures in context, there were still a number of 500k horses (whom didn't benefit from the ban of slow and non-motorized traffic on the new motorway obviously) working in the agriculture in those years.
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Old October 13th, 2016, 06:22 PM   #1532
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Historical photos of "Gierkówka" route. It`s the first Polish road 2+2, built 40 years ago between Warsaw and Katowice.


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Old October 13th, 2016, 06:24 PM   #1533
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86/94 interchange, Nowadays
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Old October 14th, 2016, 12:47 AM   #1534
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Video of the building of the first expressway in Finland, Eastern Access in Helsinki from Sörnäinen to Herttoniemi in 1955; construction started in 1950 and ended in 1957. Times!...
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Old October 14th, 2016, 12:55 AM   #1535
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Italy was the first country in Europe that developed hig-standard toll roads, exclusively for fast traffic - even if they weren't real motorways in today's sense.

But the New York area also developed its first parkways in the early 1920s. At first these were four-lane divided highways to parks and beaches outside of the city. They gradually evolved into controlled-access highways, it's difficult to pinpoint which one exactly was the first fully controlled-access highway, most sources indicate the early-to-mid 1930s. Greater New York had a huge network of controlled-access 4-lane highways by the late 1930s.
West Side Elevated was ready at it's first section in 1929-1930...Later it collapsed. It had 3+3 lanes. Was it maybe the first one?

Stockholm built the first urban expressway in Europe in 1939-1940.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 12:05 AM   #1536
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A curious transport engineering experiment realized near Rome, Italy, in the 1930s.
It consisted of a 'train', made with a truck pulling several trailers, that run along a concrete 'monorail' over a paved road.
That project never went past the experimental phase.







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Old October 18th, 2016, 12:16 AM   #1537
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What about rail guided buses? It is very similar
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Old October 22nd, 2016, 01:13 PM   #1538
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Both very interesting!
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Old November 12th, 2016, 09:07 PM   #1539
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Historical roads had historical speed limits. I stumbled upon this German sign in 1943 Charkow (then SU)



from this documentary.
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Old November 12th, 2016, 09:16 PM   #1540
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More speed for Pkw than for Lkw? This meant very bad roads, but 30kmh is not a continuous pothole, so this sign is a puzzle!
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