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Old February 15th, 2011, 05:13 AM   #21
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They have had a hard enough time just building that section of the Panamerican highway in the Darien Gap between Colombia and Panama alone so a railway connection between the two would seem even more unlikely.
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Transandino 50 km tunnel study by Geodata (Italia)

50 millions tons expected per year.

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Actual line is abandonned

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Corredor Bioceánico Aconcagua. Tren Trasandino

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CBA. Fases de Construcción

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It seems that there is also a road tunnel project instead of a railway tunnel.

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Old May 8th, 2011, 05:48 PM   #26
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Se pone en marcha la revolucionaria obra del tren a Chile

El Corredor Bioceánico Aconcagua incluye la construcción de un ferrocarril que unirá Los Andes en Chile y Luján de Cuyo en Argentina, puntos clave para las operaciones comerciales de la región. Las licitaciones comenzarán en la segunda mitad del año. Las obras, que incluyen capitales del Mercosur, Europa y Asia, prevén una inversión total de u$s3.000 millones y su finalización está prevista para 2020.


El ferrocarril recorrerá 204 km


El Corredor Bioceánico Aconcagua es un proyecto revolucionario de cimentación de un sistema ferroviario de 204 km de extensión entre Los Andes (Chile) y Luján de Cuyo (Argentina), diseñado para hacerse cargo del incremento de las operaciones comerciales a largo plazo. La obra, que incluye un túnel de baja altura de 52 km, fue pensada para resolver los problemas del Paso Cristo Redentor, garantizando menores costos y tiempos y su operatividad durante todo el año.

La propuesta faraónica avanzó con la puesta en marcha de la sociedad Bioceánico Aconcagua SA, constituida por los representantes de las firmas Corporación América (Argentina), Empresas Navieras (Chile), Mitsubishi Corp (Japón), Contreras Hermanos (Argentina) y Geodata (Italia). El plan de capitales privados sostiene una inversión de u$s 3.000 millones.
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El trayecto entre Chile y Argentina que tendrá el Corredor Bioceánico Aconcagua

Corporación América presentó en septiembre el proyecto en un acto en Mendoza. Esta obra traerá beneficios a un área de más de 3 millones de km2 y una población de 126 millones de habitantes, 48% del total sudamericano, donde se genera el 70 % de la actividad económica continental.

Hugo Eurnekian, vicepresidente de Corporación América indicó que las licitaciones para la construcción del Corredor Bioceánico Aconcagua se registrarán durante el segundo semestre del 2011.

Para garantizar la ejecución del proyecto, se creó en 2009 un Ente Binacional conformado por los gobiernos de Argentina y Chile, por primera vez en la historia de las relaciones entre ambos países. Éste tiene facultades jurídicas, financieras y técnicas para la concreción del proyecto del Corredor Bioceánico Aconcagua.

El embajador de Argentina en Chile, Ginés González, calificó en octubre a la iniciativa de las empresas como el proyecto más trascendente del siglo XXI entre ambos países, en cuanto a las relaciones que mantienen.
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Además del tren, se trasladarán camiones y containers

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La necesidad de este corredor nace de la inexistencia de una salida eficiente en América del Sur hacia el Pacífico, ya que la Cordillera de los Andes, con sus 7200 kilómetros de longitud y 4400 metros de altura promedio, actúa como barrera. La frontera común entre Chile y Argentina es de 5150 km de Codillera. El 83% de la carga que circula entre ambas bandas del Cono Sur viaja por mar, utilizando rutas más largas y costosas.

El Paso Cristo Redentor no es hoy una alternativa confiable ya que el clima de alta montaña, cierra de 45 a 60 días por año entre Mayo y Octubre, no permite optimizar la planificación logística y su capacidad vial está próxima a la saturación ya que la abrupta geografía no permite ampliaciones graduales. De 7,5 millones de toneladas que se intercambiaron de manera terrestre a través de la frontera entre ambos países durante el 2006, el 63,4% se hizo por el Paso Cristo Redentor.

Este cruce se encuentra sobre el eje horizontal más relevante, comercialmente, de la Argentina y Chile. Sobre éste se organizan las ciudades, centros de consumo y de producción más significativos de ambos países. De los dos lados existen infraestructuras logísticas que complementan al proyecto.

Del lado argentino está el ferrocarril San Martín (FSM) que realiza el trayecto Buenos Aires – Mendoza. También se encuentra la ruta nacional 7 que circula paralela al FSM, que compone al Paso Cristo Redentor (PCR). Del lado chileno está la red de EFE que une Los Andes con Santiago y los puertos chilenos de mayor importancia. Esta infraestructura existente se conecta con los sistemas ferroviarios y carreteros más importantes del Mercosur.

Por esto, las empresas consideraron que el paso actual entre Lujan de Cuyo –Los Andes es relativamente pequeño frente a la infraestructura logística existente de ambos lados. En esa locación es donde se ubicará el corredor puerto chileno – puerto argentino y su consecuente conexión con el Mercosur, mediante la unión de las infraestructuras logísticas existentes en ambos países. La finalización de las obras está prevista para 2020.

El plan incluye:

• Un ferrocarril eléctrico de alta capacidad de carga que representa una solución a largo plazo ya que podrá transportar hasta 70 millones de toneladas por año.

• El Ferrocarril es muy eficiente en el uso de energía. Trabajar con un tren impulsado por energía eléctrica es una solución óptima tanto en el costo de combustible como en cuanto al impacto ambiental.

• Un sistema abierto Atlántico-Pacífico de trocha única, totalmente Multimodal, para el transporte de todo tipo de carga

• Dos estaciones Multimodales en los extremos del sistema, que permitirán la carga y descarga de en todos los formatos, incluyendo camiones con su conductor.

http://www.lapoliticaonline.com/noti...n-a-chile.html
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Old September 5th, 2011, 03:12 PM   #27
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Where are south-americans forumers ?!

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By rail from Buenos Aires to Montevideo

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SOUTH AMERICA: President Cristina Fernández of Argentina met her Uruguayan counterpart José Mujica in Salto on August 29, having travelled from Ayuí using the rail link between the two countries across the Salto Grande dam on the River Uruguay, briefly used by passenger trains between 1982 and 1985. The ceremony marked the official launch of a project to introduce regular passenger services between Argentina and Uruguay, which it is hoped will eventually connect the capitals Buenos Aires and Montevideo.

According to the Argentinian government, a regular weekly service over the 813 km between Pilar in the province of Buenos Aires and Paso de los Toros in Uruguay is due to start on September 9. The frequency would increase to three times a week from October and daily from December, with services extended to Montevideo once upgrading of the AFE network had been completed.

Services would initially be operated by Buenos Aires suburban concessionaire TBA using a fleet of 10 ex-Netherlands Railways Class 3200 two-car DMUs. Onboard facilities would include reclining seats, TV and snacks.

On August 26 President Fernández had travelled to Lincoln in Buenos Aires province to mark the restoration of regular passenger services to Realicó in La Pampa. Federal operating company SOFSE is to provide a weekly service over the 259 km route.
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Old September 7th, 2011, 05:43 PM   #28
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Here we are! Yes, there were some news about the bioceanic railway, but it will start as freigth service, but a passanger service is at least expected...
Is still in the final planning status.

About the Argentina - Uruguay service, is a long line, but planned for trips between the stations in the middle of the line, not for long journeys.

Some pics from the Wadloper railcar (credits in the images)




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Old September 9th, 2011, 12:17 AM   #29
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There is a project to link the ports of Paranaguá and Santos (Brazil) to Antofagasta/Mejillones (Chile). The most probable route would be through Paraguay (about 400km of tracks would have to be built in that country). Other options were considered too, but politically, that one was what made more sense.

The major problem, though, is that there is not enough freight demand to justify such a corridor. A connection between Chile and Argentina (maybe a little more to the south) or between Paraguay and Brazil is ok, but economically I don't think it is so attractive to go from the Atlantic to the Pacific - especially with the Andes crossing in Socompa (northern Argentina/Chile), which is in a very bad shape and, due to geometry issues, probably not going to be upgraded.
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The Socompa pass, here know as the "C-14", is operative, and the tracks are fine, the problem is as you said, the geometry, and all the movements needed to reach that high! The line has 29 bridges, 21 tunnels, 13 viaducts, 2 spirals and 2 zigzags! It takes too long and some times the freigth trains have to be splited in 2 o 3 parts, thats why became unpopular to cross freigth on the C-14, and with the aconagua tunnel finished, it will be used for his main propouse today, the turistic train to the clouds! A nice ride!
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Old September 9th, 2011, 04:48 AM   #31
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Here we are! Yes, there were some news about the bioceanic railway, but it will start as freigth service, but a passanger service is at least expected...
Is still in the final planning status.

About the Argentina - Uruguay service, is a long line, but planned for trips between the stations in the middle of the line, not for long journeys.

Some pics from the Wadloper railcar (credits in the images)




How wonderful to see the old Wadlopers being put to good use!
The old chap looks so fragile on that big bridge!
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Old September 9th, 2011, 04:07 PM   #32
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IT's absolutely ridiculous to run a Buenos Aires-Montevideo train!!! It just takes a lot at the map. Unless they build a billionaire bridge of the La Plata estuary, such route is completely wasteful. If they are planning the service as catering most for intermediate station, there there is ZERO need to make a U-shaped route like that. Break the service in three points, just one of them being international, and offer connections if possible.
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Old December 25th, 2011, 08:23 PM   #33
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The "tren de los pueblos libres" is mainly a political move to convince argentines that railway is an important topic on the government agenda, though I consider that it´s not.
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Old December 26th, 2011, 06:23 AM   #34
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Old December 27th, 2011, 01:00 AM   #35
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It´s time for the whole latin america to be connected by train
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It´s time for the whole latin america to be connected by train
A standard gauge/AAR coupler Pan-American line from SE Mexico though Central America into Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador and so forth?



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An other time : where are south-America forumers ?


Chile-Bolivia

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Reopening closer for Arica - La Paz


24 January 2013



CHILE: The reopening of the 206 km railway between the port of Arica and the Bolivian border at Visviri moved a step closer this month with the operation of the first test train along the entire route.

A locomotive hauling six wagons carrying track materials left Arica at 18.07 on January 9, arriving at Visviri at 09.45 the following day after stopping at Puquios to change crews.

Restoration of the Chilean section of the 1 000 mm gauge railway built to connect Arica with the Bolivian capital La Paz has been undertaken by Arica port authority EPA at a cost of US$45m and has taken two years to complete.

Work undertaken by Comsa has included laying 67 500 m of rail on 73 000 timber sleepers to enable freight trains to operate at up to 40 km/h.

'The track is physically operational from beginning to end, which means that beyond the administrative formalities and meeting a few more milestones, which will be done in February, we can announce that the route is fit for traffic along its entire length', said EPA President Francisco Javier González.

Once certification is obtained, it is intended that the infrastructure will be handed over to a subsidiary of state railway EFE which will be responsible for maintenance and managing operations.

http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/p...ca-la-paz.html
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Old February 6th, 2013, 10:34 AM   #38
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what about montevideo-sao paulo/rio de janeiro ? actually, i was in brazil in november 2012 and my friend took me by car from sao paulo to aperecida a near jacarei the highway was running above some railways track which seemed to be very new and modern looking. i checked the map later and i guess i might be the new sao paulo-rio de janeiro railways. anyone has any idea about that ?
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what about montevideo-sao paulo/rio de janeiro ? actually, i was in brazil in november 2012 and my friend took me by car from sao paulo to aperecida a near jacarei the highway was running above some railways track which seemed to be very new and modern looking. i checked the map later and i guess i might be the new sao paulo-rio de janeiro railways. anyone has any idea about that ?
There's a myth that South America (this is valid for Africa too) has no rail infrastructure to speak of. In fact there is a large network but it's only used for freight. Since much of it is privatized since the 90s it is difficult to secure the rights for passenger traffic.
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in Argentina there are 2 railways crossing to Bolivia, 2 to Uruguay, 1 to Paraguay, 1 to Brazil, 2 to Chile (one under reconstruccion), and a 3rd one under eternal construction, the "Transpatagonico".

there are 8 international railways today (some of them partially closed) and another U/C.
Sorry but this is wrong. Only one railway line (still existing, at present with very limted use), connects Uruguay with Argentina, opened in 1982.

About links from Argentina to Chile: only one in service, and the connection planned between Zapala and Lonquimay was not the "transpatagonico" line, was a connection line that only was announced in papers, not in works, as the line was extended to an industrial area of Zapala and that´s all.
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