MECCA l U/C l Holy Mosque Expansion . - Page 10

Rody69 · July 30th, 2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mamss

in the new MASAA -
let me explain....the MASAA was narrow initially so they made a new MASAA parallel to the old one - they then demolished the old one and opened the new one and we now use the new one
They are now re-constructing the old one so that it is in balance with the new one (also 5 levels)
AND finally the two will be joint and "traffic" will flow in both the new and "old" reconstructed MASAAs. Traffic was normally split two ways in the old MASAA - one way from SAFAA to MARWA and the other from MARWA to SAFAA and the middle had two narrow lanes for wheelchair traffic going both ways.
Now the NEW MASAA will be one way and the OLD MASAA will be the other way = Double the width so each lane is now double giving more space and we first had 3 levels (GROUND, FIRST and ROOF ) but will now have 5 levels (BASEMENT.GROUND,FIRST,SECOND and ROOF) so effectivel;y space has been increased by approximately over 330% ! (thats the figure i get when i work it out)

the best explanation

mamss · July 30th, 2008, 04:48 PM

The MASAA was narrow initially so they made a new MASAA parallel to the old one - they then demolished the old one and opened the new one and we now use the new one
They are now re-constructing the old one so that it is in balance with the new one (also 5 levels)
AND finally the two will be joint and "traffic" will flow in both the new and "old" reconstructed MASAAs. Traffic was normally split two ways in the old MASAA - one way from SAFAA to MARWA and the other from MARWA to SAFAA and the middle had two narrow lanes for wheelchair traffic going both ways.
Now the NEW MASAA will be one way and the OLD MASAA will be the other way = Double the width so each lane is now double giving more space and we first had 3 levels (GROUND, FIRST and ROOF ) but will now have 5 levels (BASEMENT.GROUND,FIRST,SECOND and ROOF) so effectively space has been increased by approximately over 330% ! (thats the figure i get when i work it out)

To make it clearer look at the following pics.

This is how we used to make SAEE in the old MASAA

This is how it will eventually be,inshaAllah - at the moment we are only using the red area(new MASAA) and entering it via a piece of the old MASAA which is already reconstructed (see the green arrows)

Qatar Son 333 · July 30th, 2008, 12:35 PM

on the undemolished section ? besides according to mamss (thanks man) parts have been open

congrats guys alhamdullilah this went well.

***Saudi guy*** · August 5th, 2008, 12:51 PM

pictures worth 1000 words

these photos indeed priceless big thanks mamss.

i think they are working on haram expantion parts only nothing started yet on shamyah project!

mamss · August 5th, 2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saudi guy

pictures worth 1000 words

these photos indeed priceless big thanks mamss.

i think they are working on haram expantion parts only nothing started yet on shamyah project!

thats correct...its the Shamiyya area which was demolished and is now the area of the Haram expansion.....Shamiyya hotels project still a long way off...

MOHMOH · July 30th, 2008, 05:02 PM

Thank u very much Mass for the explanation

Rody69 · July 30th, 2008, 05:13 PM

out of topic:
the holy masjid in 1880:

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in 1907:
the western gate:

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the north east side (alghaza) in the 1920s

the footprint of Ibrahim (peace upon him)

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in the 1940s:

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In 2005

mamss · July 30th, 2008, 10:56 PM

The MASAA area in 1910 (or at least thats what it looks like!)

RANA AAA · August 2nd, 2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mamss

The MASAA area in 1910 (or at least thats what it looks like!)

is there is a clock on the minar

above all pics are price less

mamss · August 5th, 2008, 11:01 AM

These photos were taken on the 22nd,23rd,24th and 25th JULY - its the same areas but on different days showing how fast they working.

The area is around the old SHAMIYYA area -

Infront of the HARAM they have already dug a huge crater preparing for the foundations of the expansion...

looking at the excavation with the HARAM behind and the excavation infront

looking at the same excavation from another angle so that you can see Intercontinential in the background...

looking at the excavation from the back so you can see HARAM infront of it and ABRAJ etc in the background behind the HARAM

looking at excavation with MASAA in background and on right, part of HARAM

another view with HARAM behind excavation

another view

another

on the 25th...see how far they have gone...

some other construction/demolition area pics

seems they demolishing the Minarets infront of Kng Fahd Gate - not sure though

Also see in the background - everything in Shamiyya upto Intercontinental on the Malik Fahd side -all demolished

MTF · August 5th, 2008, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mamss

seems they demolishing the Minarets infront of Kng Fahd Gate - not sure though

Also see in the background - everything in Shamiyya upto Intercontinental on the Malik Fahd side -all demolished

Nopes they are not demolishing the Minarets its just a maintenance work. 3 months back it was covered fully but now they have uncovered half of it

Qatar Son 333 · August 1st, 2008, 01:11 PM

hmmm i dont really think so.... i think the masaa was open air in the early days.... btw from the videos in youtube.... i miss the look of the old Zamzam building which was only meters from the kabba.... to bad they installed the new water system...... btw i recommened watching all parts of history of makkah on youtube ! HIGHLY EDUCATIONAL AND RICH IN FACTS ! for example the fact that mohammed and the sahaba's when went to mecca prayed towards jerusalem instead of mecca ? then jebreel came and showed mohammed that he should pray towards mecca not jerusalem ! wow

leetroy · August 5th, 2008, 11:19 AM

woow looks like they're working on it really fast
p.s thanx for the update

mamss · August 5th, 2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by leetroy

woow looks like they're working on it really fast
p.s thanx for the update

They are working round the clock - non stop

May Allah abundantly reward Khadimul Haramain Malik Abdullah and grant him a long life so he can see the completion of these major expansions that he started.Aameen

leetroy · August 5th, 2008, 12:39 PM

AMEEEEEN

Qatar Son 333 · August 5th, 2008, 12:49 PM

Masha' allah this is great construction work

allah u akbar

mamss · August 5th, 2008, 01:58 PM

ok....
thanks for the info..

i wonder though - will all the minarets be eventually demolished to make way for taller ones or will the new ones only be taller?

RANA AAA · August 6th, 2008, 07:09 AM

mamss u the MAN ...!!!!

Shahid · August 7th, 2008, 03:53 AM

Mashallah, thanks for pics.

minarets have to be tallers soon... otherwise all the new towers will be the boss.

Captain Kimo · August 7th, 2008, 08:46 PM

are you suggesting making 600 m high manaraat?

By the way manaraat is a plural word, how come you are adding s to it?

July 30th, 2008, 04:48 PM	#2
mamss Madinah Munawwarah, KSA Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 89	A Graphic explanation The MASAA was narrow initially so they made a new MASAA parallel to the old one - they then demolished the old one and opened the new one and we now use the new one They are now re-constructing the old one so that it is in balance with the new one (also 5 levels) AND finally the two will be joint and "traffic" will flow in both the new and "old" reconstructed MASAAs. Traffic was normally split two ways in the old MASAA - one way from SAFAA to MARWA and the other from MARWA to SAFAA and the middle had two narrow lanes for wheelchair traffic going both ways. Now the NEW MASAA will be one way and the OLD MASAA will be the other way = Double the width so each lane is now double giving more space and we first had 3 levels (GROUND, FIRST and ROOF ) but will now have 5 levels (BASEMENT.GROUND,FIRST,SECOND and ROOF) so effectively space has been increased by approximately over 330% ! (thats the figure i get when i work it out) To make it clearer look at the following pics. This is how we used to make SAEE in the old MASAA This is how it will eventually be,inshaAllah - at the moment we are only using the red area(new MASAA) and entering it via a piece of the old MASAA which is already reconstructed (see the green arrows)

August 5th, 2008, 12:51 PM	#4
*Saudi guy* Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tampa florida Posts: 2,854	pictures worth 1000 words these photos indeed priceless big thanks mamss. i think they are working on haram expantion parts only nothing started yet on shamyah project! __________________ Jeddah Disaster 25/11/2009 - We will not forget flood victims

July 30th, 2008, 05:13 PM	#7
Rody69 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jeddah-London-Amestrdam Posts: 796	out of topic: the holy masjid in 1880: ------------------------------------------------------ in 1907: the western gate: ------------------------------------------------------- the north east side (alghaza) in the 1920s the footprint of Ibrahim (peace upon him) ------------------------------------------------------ in the 1940s: ------------------------------------------------------- In 2005 Last edited by Rody69; July 30th, 2008 at 09:38 PM.

August 5th, 2008, 11:01 AM	#10
mamss Madinah Munawwarah, KSA Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 89	SHAMIYYA UPDATES These photos were taken on the 22nd,23rd,24th and 25th JULY - its the same areas but on different days showing how fast they working. The area is around the old SHAMIYYA area - Infront of the HARAM they have already dug a huge crater preparing for the foundations of the expansion... looking at the excavation with the HARAM behind and the excavation infront looking at the same excavation from another angle so that you can see Intercontinential in the background... looking at the excavation from the back so you can see HARAM infront of it and ABRAJ etc in the background behind the HARAM looking at excavation with MASAA in background and on right, part of HARAM another view with HARAM behind excavation another view another on the 25th...see how far they have gone... some other construction/demolition area pics seems they demolishing the Minarets infront of Kng Fahd Gate - not sure though Also see in the background - everything in Shamiyya upto Intercontinental on the Malik Fahd side -all demolished

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July 30th, 2008, 12:35 PM	#3
Qatar Son 333 Qatar 2022 World Cup Join Date: May 2006 Location: Doha (Qatar) Posts: 6,739	on the undemolished section ? besides according to mamss (thanks man) parts have been open congrats guys alhamdullilah this went well.

July 30th, 2008, 05:02 PM	#6
MOHMOH Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 100	Thank u very much Mass for the explanation

July 30th, 2008, 10:56 PM	#8
mamss Madinah Munawwarah, KSA Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 89	The MASAA area in 1910 (or at least thats what it looks like!)

August 1st, 2008, 01:11 PM	#12
Qatar Son 333 Qatar 2022 World Cup Join Date: May 2006 Location: Doha (Qatar) Posts: 6,739	hmmm i dont really think so.... i think the masaa was open air in the early days.... btw from the videos in youtube.... i miss the look of the old Zamzam building which was only meters from the kabba.... to bad they installed the new water system...... btw i recommened watching all parts of history of makkah on youtube ! HIGHLY EDUCATIONAL AND RICH IN FACTS ! for example the fact that mohammed and the sahaba's when went to mecca prayed towards jerusalem instead of mecca ? then jebreel came and showed mohammed that he should pray towards mecca not jerusalem ! wow

August 5th, 2008, 11:19 AM	#13
leetroy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 507	woow looks like they're working on it really fast p.s thanx for the update

August 5th, 2008, 12:39 PM	#15
leetroy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 507	AMEEEEEN

August 5th, 2008, 12:49 PM	#16
Qatar Son 333 Qatar 2022 World Cup Join Date: May 2006 Location: Doha (Qatar) Posts: 6,739	Masha' allah this is great construction work allah u akbar

August 5th, 2008, 01:58 PM	#17
mamss Madinah Munawwarah, KSA Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 89	ok.... thanks for the info.. i wonder though - will all the minarets be eventually demolished to make way for taller ones or will the new ones only be taller?

August 6th, 2008, 07:09 AM	#18
RANA AAA Rising from the Ashes Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,520	mamss u the MAN ...!!!!

August 7th, 2008, 03:53 AM	#19
Shahid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 426	Mashallah, thanks for pics. minarets have to be tallers soon... otherwise all the new towers will be the boss.

August 7th, 2008, 08:46 PM	#20
Captain Kimo ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Al-Isma'iliyah الإسماعيلية Posts: 302	are you suggesting making 600 m high manaraat? By the way manaraat is a plural word, how come you are adding s to it?