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Old January 18th, 2009, 08:13 AM   #41
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Does it? I thought the AVE trains now stopped in a newly built part of Barcelona Sants, and were separate from the Broad Gauge tracks. Changing from there to the renfe network would be the equivalent of changing from an overground station to an underground station.
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Old January 18th, 2009, 08:26 AM   #42
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Does it? I thought the AVE trains now stopped in a newly built part of Barcelona Sants, and were separate from the Broad Gauge tracks. Changing from there to the renfe network would be the equivalent of changing from an overground station to an underground station.
Once you arrive to Sants station you can change from the LAV to the RENFE network (commuter, regional and international) or the local metro network in just 1 minut (if you have the ticket )...

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Old January 18th, 2009, 05:16 PM   #43
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Are you sure?

The longest possible distance to do in 24hrs I have found is in France. It 4161km.



2326 Culmont Chalindrey-Avignon Centre 0423 (I estimate that this train goes through Dijon Ville at around midnight) (527km Dijon-Avignon)
0511 Avignon Centre-Paris Lyon 0845 (617km)
Paris Lyon-Chatelet and Back on the Meteor (5km)
0916 Paris Lyon-Marseille Saint Charles 1235 (750km)
1246 Marseille Saint Charles-Avignon TGV 1321
1332 Avignon TGV-Paris Lyon 1615 (750km)
Gare de Lyon-Chatelet and back on the METEOR (5km)
1646 Paris Lyon-Marseille Saint Charles 1958 (750km)
Gare Saint Charles-Cing Avenue/Longchamp and back (3km)
2028 Marseille Saint Charles-Paris Lyon 2347 (750km)
Gare de Lyon-Pyramides on the Metor (3km)

Can anyone find a longer distance?
In that sense, the longest I find in Japan (though not longer than France) is:

Numazu 23:40 - Okayama 06:31 (Sunrise Seto), 606.7 km
Okayama 06:48 - Kokura 08:17 (Sanyo Shinkansen), 336.9 km
Kokura 08:30 - Shin-Yokohama 13:11 (Tokaido-Sanyo Shinkansen), 987.7 km
Shin-Yokohama 13:28 - Hakata 18:13 (Tokaido-Sanyo Shinkansen), 1043.6 km
Hakata 18:25 - Tokyo 23:32 (Tokaido-Sanyo Shinkansen), 1069.1 km

Total: 4044.0 km.
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Old January 18th, 2009, 08:13 PM   #44
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Aurelio, are there any through trains from Madrid to Girona or Estacio Franca via the LAV.
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Old January 19th, 2009, 12:19 PM   #45
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Aurelio, are there any through trains from Madrid to Girona or Estacio Franca via the LAV.
Not yet at the moment. The LAV stops in Barcelona but the works to cross Barcelona to reach Sagrera station, and from there to Girona, Figueres and the French border are under construction. From Figueres to France is almost ready, but not the connection from Figueres to Barcelona.
If you want to go from Barcelona to France you still need to use the RENFE gauge train service -regional or Elypsos-.
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Old January 20th, 2009, 12:58 AM   #46
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Well there we go then. Changing at Barcelona Sants doesn't really count, because you'd have to have to from one gauge to another, so it wouldn't be a proper through railway journey. It would only really count if a train travelled on a broad gauge line.

The longest journey I can find in 24 hours that does include Spain is this one:

1503 Verviers Central-Liege Guillemins 1526
1541 Liege Guillemins-Bruxelles Midi 1636
1701 Bruxelles Midi-Lille Europe 1735
1820 Lille Europe-Les Aubrais Orleans 2051
2133 Les Aubrais Orleans-Girona 0654
0727 Girona-Barcelona Sants 0846
1000 Barcelona Sants-Alacant Terminal 1500

This is 1448km as the crow flies, or 2190km by rail.
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Old January 20th, 2009, 08:34 AM   #47
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Well there we go then. Changing at Barcelona Sants doesn't really count, because you'd have to have to from one gauge to another, so it wouldn't be a proper through railway journey. It would only really count if a train travelled on a broad gauge line.

The longest journey I can find in 24 hours that does include Spain is this one:

1503 Verviers Central-Liege Guillemins 1526
1541 Liege Guillemins-Bruxelles Midi 1636
1701 Bruxelles Midi-Lille Europe 1735
1820 Lille Europe-Les Aubrais Orleans 2051
2133 Les Aubrais Orleans-Girona 0654
0727 Girona-Barcelona Sants 0846
1000 Barcelona Sants-Alacant Terminal 1500

This is 1448km as the crow flies, or 2190km by rail.

From Les Aubrais Orleans to Girona you need to change train or change boggies at Portbou station. UIC for France, Iberian gauge for Girona, Barcelona and Alacant terminals...
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Old January 20th, 2009, 09:37 PM   #48
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I think you change bogies while staying on the train at Port Bou. So that does count because you are changing gauge but riding on the same train. If an AVE went directly from Madrid to Girona, that would count too. But if you caught, say, a train from Barcelona to Cerbere, then changed and got another train northwards from Cerbere, then that would not count.

Still, when the Perpignan-Figueras line opens, I'm certain that the longest train journey in Europe will be from somewhere in the south of Spain.
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Old January 21st, 2009, 09:36 AM   #49
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I think you change bogies while staying on the train at Port Bou. So that does count because you are changing gauge but riding on the same train. If an AVE went directly from Madrid to Girona, that would count too. But if you caught, say, a train from Barcelona to Cerbere, then changed and got another train northwards from Cerbere, then that would not count.

Still, when the Perpignan-Figueras line opens, I'm certain that the longest train journey in Europe will be from somewhere in the south of Spain.
You're right then!

In 2012 there will be the possibility to go from Barcelona to the French border using Spanish AVE and French TGV from Sagrera Station to Paris, even though there will be a short part of the south French TGV line that will not be real TGV line but UIC, so the speed will be lower, but without any change of boggies or train at the border... But still 3-4 years for this...

From Sevilla to Cadiz, the AVE works are under construction, so you will be able to start you European journey from Cadiz in a few years from now...
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Old January 29th, 2009, 11:23 PM   #50
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Warsaw-Moscow
Warsaw -Madrid
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Old January 30th, 2009, 12:43 AM   #51
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Warszawa Centralna-Moskva Belorusskaja is 1317km by rail and takes 16 hours to go one way.

Warsaw-Madrid takes 30 hours minimum
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Old July 10th, 2009, 02:15 AM   #52
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24 minutes is a bit short for a transfer between gare de Lyon and gare du Nord, but it can easily be done using RER A & B or even RER D (a bit more risky though, as there is less traffic on that line).

I think I have found a longer trip :
Seville 16.15
Madrid 18.50-19.00
Poitiers 5.58-6.36
Paris 8.15 (Montparnasse) - 8.55 (Nord)
Köln 12.45 - 13.11
Bremen 16.14

Total : 2085 km in 23.59

Any better solutions ? (maybe with the night train Roma - Paris and then Eurostar and British railways ?)
Itīs impossible to switch between both Madrid stations in 10 minutes. Seville trains arrive at Atocha station and Paris train departs from Chamartin
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Old July 10th, 2009, 02:50 AM   #53
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You have to change gauge but...

1600 Malaga - Madrid Atocha 1840 --> Usually arrives a little bit earlier... Then RUN!!! and...
1841 Atocha - Chamartin 1854
1900 Madrid Chamartin - Paris Austerlitz 0827
??? Austerlitz - Gare du nord ??? - Iīm sure not much by commuter
1013 Gare Du Nord - London St.Pancras 1128 (1228 if you count that London is another time zone)
From 1128 you have plenty of time to reach a far destination by 1500 (Maybe 1200 train from London Kings Cross to Edinburgh, arrives at 1500 at Newcastle).

Madrid changing is not very realistic, but as I said, if the train arrives a little bit earlier as it usually does, itīs feasible, and as long as somebody doesnīt prove me wrong, itīs valid.

Does somebody know the lenght of my route?? When Barcelona - French border High Speed line opens, then Malaga/Seville to France is going to be quite fast.
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Old August 1st, 2009, 10:24 PM   #54
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sad thing is trains are so expensive compared to making these journeys 'less romantically' by car
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Old August 2nd, 2009, 03:07 AM   #55
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From my hometown of Miami - Washington DC is about as far as I can go in 24 hours by train.
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Old August 2nd, 2009, 05:58 AM   #56
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From Heidelberg, Germany to Kobryn, Belarus

Dep : 20:35
Arr : 20:25

Connection:
S2 -> Mannheim, Germany (Dep: 20:35, Arr: 20:51)
D 50472 -> Brest, Belarus (Dep: 21:16, Arr: 17:41)
664BJ -> Kobryn, Belarus (Dep: 19:34, Arr: 20:25)

~1600 km

Alternatively, i could do London and return in under 16 hours travel time, plus 90 minutes for checking out and back into Eurostar in London. That would be about 1700 km total. Taking an earlier train to make use of 21 of the 24 hours i could probably put in a 4-hour shopping trip in London, i guess
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Old December 30th, 2009, 08:33 AM   #57
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Quote:
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Solution:

D24, Changchun - Beijing, 07:13 - 13:29, 1003 km
T13, Beijing - Chenzhou, 13:34 - 07:03, 1926 km

Rail distance: 2929 km
Shortest distance: 2292 km



Route: the line in blue
A good answer!
Given no transfer between different stations within one city is allowed, it is now possible to go 2347 km in 24 hours:

22:41-23:55 2220 Kaiyuan-ShenyangNorth
00:15-11:38 T238/T235 ShenyangNorth-Shijiazhuang
11:49-18:30 D123 Shijiazhuang-Wuhan
18:50-22:34 G1055 Wuhan-GuangzhouNorth

(rail distance ~ 3030 km)


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Old January 5th, 2010, 12:32 PM   #58
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From Les Aubrais Orleans to Girona you need to change train or change boggies at Portbou station. UIC for France, Iberian gauge for Girona, Barcelona and Alacant terminals...
On this train the bogies are not changed. Some French - Spanish cross border trains use Talgo trainsets that have variable gauge axles.
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Old January 5th, 2010, 01:06 PM   #59
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Mumbai - New Delhi - 1400 Km - 24 hrs
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Mumbai - New Delhi - 1400 Km - 24 hrs
Mumbai - New Delhi = 1160 km
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