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Neda Say · May 23rd, 2006, 01:09 AM

What about lowering the pitch just a bit and just extending the stands behind the goals?!

GNU · May 24th, 2006, 03:00 PM

Some new Stadionwelt pics from Neuchatel

Neda Say · May 25th, 2006, 12:43 AM

Neufchatel is building a great little stadium... But what is it doing in this thread... Switzerland championcship is also on the rise and it would deserve a thread of it's own

Vilak · May 25th, 2006, 10:15 AM

NEDA SAY about bordeaux :
You're right, Rebuilding the stands behind the goal is the better option.
Concerning the lowering of the pitch, i don't think there's enough place beside the field to even if it is from 1 meter.
If the angle of the stand is (let's say) 33%, digging 1 meter would mean the stand would be 3 meters colser to the pitch and with the actual poor distance, it would break the security rules cos' I think it would be damn too close to the sideline if it don't enter the pitch surface.
What to do think?

skaP187 · May 25th, 2006, 11:32 AM

I don't know why, but I like the stands behind the goal (a little flat, so that is why I do not know why,) It is unique I guess. Just put an extra tire on the whole stadium and blow it up, jajaja!

Neda Say · May 25th, 2006, 05:11 PM

well I think you're right with security rules it can't be done... but there's still a lot of space behind the goald they can do something there maybe and extra 6000 seats if they reshape these zones so that would put Lescure at about 4200 (I still can't say chaban delmas) add more seat at the back would make the stand even flatter than they are now on the lower side.

Vilak · May 27th, 2006, 09:59 AM

From what I've heard the pitchview in lescure (me too I never say chaban delmas) is not great on the lower seats.
The same thing applied to olympia stadion in Munich but there, the bayern could afford to block few ranges of seats, bordeaux can't.

Neda Say · May 29th, 2006, 06:20 PM

would you have som pics of lescure mine are so crappy I can't get anything from it?!

Vilak · May 29th, 2006, 06:57 PM

Here's what I have, no much.

If you have pix of the stade de france rejected projects, I would be very pleased to have them. thank you.

Neda Say · May 30th, 2006, 01:20 AM

Great pics, thanks, sorry where I am, I don't have any picture. I am browsing the web all the time to get info
Concerning lescure improving seating will probably require to keep nohing else but the outside and roof superstructrure... and rebuild from the ground up both cop.

If there's one thing I don't see in the future, it's bordeaux spending money on a new stadium... If owners want to improve seating capacity they will have to raise money themselve.

However sidelines look real tight as you said behind goals are wide just enough.
My point is improving lescure seating will be a lot more expensive than PDP. Maybe 4000 extra seats with the best architect there is having a very steep higher stand and an extremely flat lower part... With a goal lines less then tree meters away from the fan. Fans would probably like it security specialist will hate it... DIstrict authority would be likely to say no. this expension would be a lot more expensive than pdp just because of all demolition work you would have to take care of before you even start... You can't blow anything up since Lescure is a monument. One crazy plan would be to raise the roof to the main stand heights... But I think that the roof itself is a monument due to its very particular and beatiful shaping.
I don't see this happening unless some crazy football crazy bordelais wants to waste 40M for an extra 4000 puting Lescure to just 40000... They would still be way behind Lyon, Marseille, Lens and Paris...

titou · May 30th, 2006, 01:27 PM

overall, the bordeaux stadium is a classic stadium by french standarts.

I personnally don't think it is very beautiful but it has its caché.

No way to improve the capcity in my mind.

Bordeaux will have to make with what they have until they have the money to build a new stadium, wich is not for soon.

Too bad bez and chaban delmas 100.000 stadium project in the mid 80's never escaped the paper.

Neda Say · June 1st, 2006, 12:52 AM

That was a ludicrous project... Besides if you want to buy a piece of land today in the greater bordeaux area be my guest... It would cost a fortune. Bordeaux never had the popultation to build such a thing and will probably never had... But I recognize Claude Bez silly touch... Second point bordeaux doesn't really have the local corporate support that Lyon enjoys...

titou · June 5th, 2006, 11:19 AM

Of course it was en egomaniac idea but, as long as it is not my money at stake, it should have been fun.

A big, topnotch state of the art stadium always attract people although I admit it should have been sad and bad looking on TV to always have a 3/4 empty stadium but

Neda Say · June 5th, 2006, 05:56 PM

Hey anybody anynews coming from the lille metropole stadium?
I think we can just stop dreaming of improving Lescure it's a dead end
Lille new stadium is more relevant to me

titou · June 6th, 2006, 11:56 AM

Yes, if you have something new about lille stadium, let's talk about it for sure.

Vilak · June 8th, 2006, 06:28 PM

The situation with lille stadium starts to piss me off.
One day it's ok and the next morning it's not...
I'm fed up with that.

Neda Say · June 13th, 2006, 12:41 AM

If Lille metropole was clever they would make a clone of sdf without the third ring capacity 50000 with the track ideal for both the club and the meeting end of the story tear down the actual stadium built a new one on it 3 years of work and that's it

No need to get all pissed off it's useless nothing in your power unless...

Neda Say · June 15th, 2006, 12:38 AM

Hey here's the new date of delivery for Lille new stadium summer 2009

Vilak · June 18th, 2006, 06:15 PM

Summer 2009?
So it's time to rush.
Do they finally have a written project or is everything yet to be though about?

The location is still scheduled to be the actual stadium grimonpres-jooris?

Neda Say · June 20th, 2006, 01:33 AM

No new location is Villeneuve d'asq Parc... next to the actual stadium or on the actual site ... no architect mentioned so far... I think it's going to be a "hok" stadium since the delay is relay short. So far no rezonning area has been mentioned.
right now the losc is focussing on Luchin training facility which should be completed by summer 2007

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May 23rd, 2006, 01:09 AM	#121
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	What about lowering the pitch just a bit and just extending the stands behind the goals?!

May 24th, 2006, 03:00 PM	#122
GNU Gnuru Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Brave GNU World Posts: 2,787 Likes (Received): 10	Some new Stadionwelt pics from Neuchatel

May 25th, 2006, 12:43 AM	#123
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	Neufchatel is building a great little stadium... But what is it doing in this thread... Switzerland championcship is also on the rise and it would deserve a thread of it's own

May 25th, 2006, 10:15 AM	#124
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	NEDA SAY about bordeaux : You're right, Rebuilding the stands behind the goal is the better option. Concerning the lowering of the pitch, i don't think there's enough place beside the field to even if it is from 1 meter. If the angle of the stand is (let's say) 33%, digging 1 meter would mean the stand would be 3 meters colser to the pitch and with the actual poor distance, it would break the security rules cos' I think it would be damn too close to the sideline if it don't enter the pitch surface. What to do think?

May 25th, 2006, 11:32 AM	#125
skaP187 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alicante Posts: 1,688 Likes (Received): 10	I don't know why, but I like the stands behind the goal (a little flat, so that is why I do not know why,) It is unique I guess. Just put an extra tire on the whole stadium and blow it up, jajaja!

May 25th, 2006, 05:11 PM	#126
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	well I think you're right with security rules it can't be done... but there's still a lot of space behind the goald they can do something there maybe and extra 6000 seats if they reshape these zones so that would put Lescure at about 4200 (I still can't say chaban delmas) add more seat at the back would make the stand even flatter than they are now on the lower side.

May 27th, 2006, 09:59 AM	#127
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	From what I've heard the pitchview in lescure (me too I never say chaban delmas) is not great on the lower seats. The same thing applied to olympia stadion in Munich but there, the bayern could afford to block few ranges of seats, bordeaux can't.

May 29th, 2006, 06:20 PM	#128
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	would you have som pics of lescure mine are so crappy I can't get anything from it?!

May 29th, 2006, 06:57 PM	#129
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	Here's what I have, no much. If you have pix of the stade de france rejected projects, I would be very pleased to have them. thank you.

May 30th, 2006, 01:20 AM	#130
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	Great pics, thanks, sorry where I am, I don't have any picture. I am browsing the web all the time to get info Concerning lescure improving seating will probably require to keep nohing else but the outside and roof superstructrure... and rebuild from the ground up both cop. If there's one thing I don't see in the future, it's bordeaux spending money on a new stadium... If owners want to improve seating capacity they will have to raise money themselve. However sidelines look real tight as you said behind goals are wide just enough. My point is improving lescure seating will be a lot more expensive than PDP. Maybe 4000 extra seats with the best architect there is having a very steep higher stand and an extremely flat lower part... With a goal lines less then tree meters away from the fan. Fans would probably like it security specialist will hate it... DIstrict authority would be likely to say no. this expension would be a lot more expensive than pdp just because of all demolition work you would have to take care of before you even start... You can't blow anything up since Lescure is a monument. One crazy plan would be to raise the roof to the main stand heights... But I think that the roof itself is a monument due to its very particular and beatiful shaping. I don't see this happening unless some crazy football crazy bordelais wants to waste 40M for an extra 4000 puting Lescure to just 40000... They would still be way behind Lyon, Marseille, Lens and Paris...

May 30th, 2006, 01:27 PM	#131
titou titou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: dijon Posts: 149 Likes (Received): 0	overall, the bordeaux stadium is a classic stadium by french standarts. I personnally don't think it is very beautiful but it has its caché. No way to improve the capcity in my mind. Bordeaux will have to make with what they have until they have the money to build a new stadium, wich is not for soon. Too bad bez and chaban delmas 100.000 stadium project in the mid 80's never escaped the paper.

June 1st, 2006, 12:52 AM	#132
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	That was a ludicrous project... Besides if you want to buy a piece of land today in the greater bordeaux area be my guest... It would cost a fortune. Bordeaux never had the popultation to build such a thing and will probably never had... But I recognize Claude Bez silly touch... Second point bordeaux doesn't really have the local corporate support that Lyon enjoys...

June 5th, 2006, 11:19 AM	#133
titou titou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: dijon Posts: 149 Likes (Received): 0	Of course it was en egomaniac idea but, as long as it is not my money at stake, it should have been fun. A big, topnotch state of the art stadium always attract people although I admit it should have been sad and bad looking on TV to always have a 3/4 empty stadium but

June 5th, 2006, 05:56 PM	#134
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	Hey anybody anynews coming from the lille metropole stadium? I think we can just stop dreaming of improving Lescure it's a dead end Lille new stadium is more relevant to me

June 6th, 2006, 11:56 AM	#135
titou titou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: dijon Posts: 149 Likes (Received): 0	Yes, if you have something new about lille stadium, let's talk about it for sure.

June 8th, 2006, 06:28 PM	#136
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	The situation with lille stadium starts to piss me off. One day it's ok and the next morning it's not... I'm fed up with that.

June 13th, 2006, 12:41 AM	#137
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	If Lille metropole was clever they would make a clone of sdf without the third ring capacity 50000 with the track ideal for both the club and the meeting end of the story tear down the actual stadium built a new one on it 3 years of work and that's it No need to get all pissed off it's useless nothing in your power unless...

June 15th, 2006, 12:38 AM	#138
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	Hey here's the new date of delivery for Lille new stadium summer 2009

June 18th, 2006, 06:15 PM	#139
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	Summer 2009? So it's time to rush. Do they finally have a written project or is everything yet to be though about? The location is still scheduled to be the actual stadium grimonpres-jooris?

June 20th, 2006, 01:33 AM	#140
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	No new location is Villeneuve d'asq Parc... next to the actual stadium or on the actual site ... no architect mentioned so far... I think it's going to be a "hok" stadium since the delay is relay short. So far no rezonning area has been mentioned. right now the losc is focussing on Luchin training facility which should be completed by summer 2007