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Old September 5th, 2014, 12:46 PM   #2041
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The timetable switch between one day and the next is at 4.00.
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Old September 5th, 2014, 02:32 PM   #2042
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Why not say "tot mandaagochtend 6.30"?
Because the weekend fare period lasts only till 4AM monday. If you have the weekend vrij abbonement, for instance, it can be used until 4.00 only.
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Old September 6th, 2014, 07:57 PM   #2043
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My usual miscellaneous questions.

1) Night trains in the Randstad. NS says the trains call at Den Haag Centraal:
http://www.ns.nl/en/travellers/about...-at-night.html

The Journey Planner, as well as my infos, say this is not true...
But, apart from this, I can't tell from that poor map which lines are actually covered by the hourly everyday service, which only in w-e nights, and if and where to change...

2) This w-e Schiphol is off-limits due to maintenance works; are they building the new overpass at the Riekerpolder Aansluiting?

3) NS site says that Thalys are rerouted between Amstedam CS and Rotterdam; I didn't see any TGV here, but today there's a lot of extra traffic with the same materials of the Brussel IC.
So, are TGVs routed via Breukelen - Gouda, or people must change in Rotterdam to the ICs I see running here?
What is weird is that these extra ICs seem to be enter Den Haag HS on the track towards CS, not Leiden...

4) To use my anonymous OV-C on NS trains, all I need is €20 before departure and simple check in - check out, or there's more?
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Old September 6th, 2014, 08:01 PM   #2044
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You only need €16 to check in for NS trains. €20 is deducted on check in, so you have a balance of -€4 until you check out again.
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Old September 6th, 2014, 08:03 PM   #2045
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There was a massive theft of copper cables near Amsterdam Lelyllaan, apparently, which disrupted traffic in the region. Have they fixed everything already?
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Old September 6th, 2014, 08:17 PM   #2046
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My usual miscellaneous questions.

1) Night trains in the Randstad. NS says the trains call at Den Haag Centraal:
http://www.ns.nl/en/travellers/about...-at-night.html

The Journey Planner, as well as my infos, say this is not true...
But, apart from this, I can't tell from that poor map which lines are actually covered by the hourly everyday service, which only in w-e nights, and if and where to change...
The map is incorrect. Night trains don't call at Den Haag Centraal, they only call at Den Haag HS.

The routes in Brabant are only served at week-ends. On the page you linked to, this is hidden under the link 'Show additional text'. On this page it is shown by default.
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Night-time Nachtnet services in Brabant

On Friday and Saturday nights trains will run on the following routes:

Eindhoven - Tilburg - Breda - Dordrecht - Rotterdam
Eindhoven - 's-Hertogenbosch - Utrecht, Utrecht Centraal continuing to 's-Hertogenbosch and Eindhoven
's-Hertogenbosch - Tilburg (shuttle)
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2) This w-e Schiphol is off-limits due to maintenance works; are they building the new overpass at the Riekerpolder Aansluiting?
I'm not sure what they are doing this weekend, but it is related to the Schiphol - Duivendrecht doubling.

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3) NS site says that Thalys are rerouted between Amstedam CS and Rotterdam; I didn't see any TGV here, but today there's a lot of extra traffic with the same materials of the Brussel IC.

So, are TGVs routed via Breukelen - Gouda, or people must change in Rotterdam to the ICs I see running here?
What is weird is that these extra ICs seem to be enter Den Haag HS on the track towards CS, not Leiden...
When Thalys trains are diverted due to engineering works, they usually go over Gouda/Breukelen and not via Den Haag.

Due to engineering works between Lage Zwaluwe and Dordrecht, the Benelux ICs are limited to Brussels - Roosendaal this weekend.

This weekend, the Intercity Direct (which normally serves Breda - Amsterdam) has been rerouted to serve Breda - Den Haag Centraal instead. It does not serve Schiphol or Amsterdam Centraal.

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4) To use my anonymous OV-C on NS trains, all I need is €20 before departure and simple check in - check out, or there's more?
That's mostly it. You have to go past a ticket machine once to indicate if you want to travel 1st or 2nd class.

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If it's not on the news then nobody knows. Unless they're involved themselves. Where were you at the time of the theft, Suburbanist?
Somewhere early friday morning there was a copper theft just north of Schiphol, indeed. The thieves appearantly cut through a 3 kV feeder cable, which short circuited and set things on fire.

It was impossible to run trains between Schiphol and Amsterdam Lelylaan and Schiphol and Amsterdam Zuid, but the engineers were able to rebuild everything rather quickly. Around noon on Friday it was possible to start running trains again.

Given the extent of the damage this can be considered quite an achievement. Someone posted some pictures on Tweakers.net.
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Old September 6th, 2014, 08:20 PM   #2047
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My usual miscellaneous questions.

1) Night trains in the Randstad. NS says the trains call at Den Haag Centraal:
http://www.ns.nl/en/travellers/about...-at-night.html

The Journey Planner, as well as my infos, say this is not true...
But, apart from this, I can't tell from that poor map which lines are actually covered by the hourly everyday service, which only in w-e nights, and if and where to change...
Rotterdam - Delft - Den Haag HS - Leiden - Schiphol - Amsterdam - Utrecht is every night hourly. But on sunday, monday and teusday night the service between Leiden/Schiphol/Amsterdam is partly replaced by a bus service.

The Utrecht-Eindhoven-Rotterdam (and intermediate) is on fridays and saturdays.

Utrecht-Rotterdam is on fridays and saturdays (two or three services)

Utrecht-Amersfoort is on fridays and saturdays (two or three services)

This NS(english) page does tell the correct info though: http://www.ns.nl/en/travellers/about...t-night%5B2%5D

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2) This w-e Schiphol is off-limits due to maintenance works; are they building the new overpass at the Riekerpolder Aansluiting?
They are quadruppling the Schiphol - Amsterdam South section.

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3) NS site says that Thalys are rerouted between Amstedam CS and Rotterdam; I didn't see any TGV here, but today there's a lot of extra traffic with the same materials of the Brussel IC.
So, are TGVs routed via Breukelen - Gouda, or people must change in Rotterdam to the ICs I see running here?
What is weird is that these extra ICs seem to be enter Den Haag HS on the track towards CS, not Leiden...
They are indeed routed via Breukelen - Gouda, but I would suppose that the intercity via Den Haag is quicker.
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Old September 6th, 2014, 08:32 PM   #2048
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My usual miscellaneous questions.

1) Night trains in the Randstad. NS says the trains call at Den Haag Centraal:
http://www.ns.nl/en/travellers/about...-at-night.html

The Journey Planner, as well as my infos, say this is not true...
But, apart from this, I can't tell from that poor map which lines are actually covered by the hourly everyday service, which only in w-e nights, and if and where to change...
Aahh NS and their terrible maps.

There's basically 1 night train service. It runs every night, once every hour on the following route, in both directions:

Rotterdam Centraal - Delft - Den Haag HS - Leiden Centraal - Schiphol - Amsterdam Centraal - Utrecht Centraal.

Notice that it does NOT make a circle: if you want to go from Utrecht to Rotterdam, you have to go via Amsterdam and The Hague.

On weekend nights (Friday-Saturday and Saturday-Sunday), the route is extended at both ends. From Rotterdam, the trains continue to Dordrecht, Breda, Tilburg and Eindhoven. From Utrecht, the trains continue to 's-Hertogenbosch and Eindhoven.

Also: because of the construction works in Delft, the trains are sometimes rerouted via Gouda. NS typically service Rotterdam - Delft - The Hague with buses during those nights.

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2) This w-e Schiphol is off-limits due to maintenance works; are they building the new overpass at the Riekerpolder Aansluiting?
Good question, I don't know...

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3) NS site says that Thalys are rerouted between Amstedam CS and Rotterdam; I didn't see any TGV here, but today there's a lot of extra traffic with the same materials of the Brussel IC.
So, are TGVs routed via Breukelen - Gouda, or people must change in Rotterdam to the ICs I see running here?
What is weird is that these extra ICs seem to be enter Den Haag HS on the track towards CS, not Leiden...
The ICs to Brussels still terminate in The Hague I think. When the Thalys is rerouted, it typically does Rotterdam CS - Gouda - Breukelen.

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4) To use my anonymous OV-C on NS trains, all I need is €20 before departure and simple check in - check out, or there's more?
That's all.
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Old September 6th, 2014, 09:22 PM   #2049
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My usual miscellaneous questions.

4) To use my anonymous OV-C on NS trains, all I need is €20 before departure and simple check in - check out, or there's more?
You need to activate it at a machine before you use it. You then can select if you wish to travel first or second class. English info here. Animated video in Dutch here.
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Old September 6th, 2014, 09:25 PM   #2050
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I don't get it. There were calls for a new thread about these matters, so I opened one, but nobody shows up...
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Old September 7th, 2014, 01:30 AM   #2051
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Does anywhere else in the world operate an hourly intercity service overnight, 7 days a week?
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Old September 7th, 2014, 12:50 PM   #2052
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2) This w-e Schiphol is off-limits due to maintenance works; are they building the new overpass at the Riekerpolder Aansluiting?
Yes, that's exactly what they are doing.

http://www.prorail.nl/projecten/schi...n-huizingalaan

And while there busy they are also working on more viaducts along the line.
http://www.prorail.nl/projecten/schi...mstelveenseweg


Plus track work at Duivendrecht station, the other end of the section of the line which will quadrupled.

http://www.prorail.nl/projecten/schi...n-duivendrecht
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Old September 7th, 2014, 03:33 PM   #2053
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The first V250 left the Netherlands today and make it's way back to Italy.
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It's not making its way so much as it's being desperately dragged.
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I"m amazed it didn't fall apart into pieces on the way there
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Don't worry, they'll be put into good use... I told you months ago, there's only one rail operator in this world that has the experience needed to make AB's crap work
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Don't worry, they'll be put into good use... I told you months ago, there's only one rail operator in this world that has the experience needed to make AB's crap work
I read in some Forum (Ferrovie IT) that there Trenitalia might be interested on buying the V250 fleet to operate hybrid services (like Bari-Roma, Ancona-Roma, Torino-Venezia, Milano-Bari). I know there are some knowledgeable insiders on that forum, though I'm not sure whether this is an expected thing or not.
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I was expecting this since at least three years, and I'm not an insider...
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