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Old December 27th, 2016, 11:41 PM   #3541
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It's hideous, but then bright yellow and blue were always a bad combination.
One of the most attractive liveries on a Dutch train was the red and yellow Benelux livery. If they decide to use ICng sets on services to Belgium I hope they revive this livery. Could look very good...'
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Old December 28th, 2016, 12:40 AM   #3542
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I actually like the current yellow+blue, more than its white-ish variant applied to Sprinters.

Somebody posted here some renders of the current livery with black/dark grey instead of blue, I remember it looked much more modern and still "very NS".
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Old December 28th, 2016, 11:40 AM   #3543
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One of the most attractive liveries on a Dutch train was the red and yellow Benelux livery. If they decide to use ICng sets on services to Belgium I hope they revive this livery. Could look very good...'
That will never happen, I'm afraid. The red part of this livery came from the red that was in force on the belgian trains at that time. Red + yellow like SNCB + NS. But this belgian red livery is almost extinct now. I hope they will come with something creative anyway, although I'm not holding my breath.

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Old January 5th, 2017, 11:21 PM   #3544
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An interesting 1979 photo of the Botlek Bridge in the Port of Rotterdam. It shows a shared road/rail lane. It was put into operation on 9 July 1967 to handle Sunday traffic to the beaches (2 lanes westbound in the morning and 2 eastbound in the evening). It may have been removed after the motorway tunnel opened in 1980.


What's a passenger train doing in that area? Beach traffic too?
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Old January 6th, 2017, 12:29 AM   #3545
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Probably an excurion train there is no passenger service only goods traffic.
The bridge on the foto was used until last year when it was replaced by a bigger bridge.
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Old January 19th, 2017, 05:36 PM   #3546
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From Rail Journal

http://www.railjournal.com/index.php...ml?channel=529

First NS New Generation Sprinter EMU on test
Wednesday, January 18, 2017



NETHERLANDS Railways (NS) has released footage of the first completed New Generation Sprinter (SNG) EMU, which is undergoing tests at CAF’s plant in Beasain in northern Spain

NS placed a €510m order with CAF in December 2015 for 118 of the 1.5kV dc suburban trains, which are based on CAF’s Civity platform. The order comprises 68 three-car and 50 four-car sets

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Old January 20th, 2017, 05:39 AM   #3547
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I have some questions about Dutch railway:
1. Which cities / towns have tram or LRT network?
2. I'm planning to visit Netherlands in October. I was wondering if it's possible to visit Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg without any need to stay there? I'm planning to go from Amsterdam - Hamburg vv in a single day
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Old January 20th, 2017, 09:00 AM   #3548
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I have some questions about Dutch railway:
1. Which cities / towns have tram or LRT network?
2. I'm planning to visit Netherlands in October. I was wondering if it's possible to visit Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg without any need to stay there? I'm planning to go from Amsterdam - Hamburg vv in a single day


AD 1: check the tram section at: http://egtre.info/wiki/Netherlands_-...al_Information for information and details.
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Old January 20th, 2017, 10:07 AM   #3549
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I have some questions about Dutch railway:
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2. I'm planning to visit Netherlands in October. I was wondering if it's possible to visit Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg without any need to stay there? I'm planning to go from Amsterdam - Hamburg vv in a single day
2. It is a five hour journey single trip, so you have to leave early. If you're willing to depart at 5:12 in the morning and return at 23:01 in the evening you have from 10:13 till 17:46 in Hamburg. Whether or not that is enough for you I can't Judge.
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Old January 20th, 2017, 10:25 AM   #3550
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2. It is a five hour journey single trip, so you have to leave early. If you're willing to depart at 5:12 in the morning and return at 23:01 in the evening you have from 10:13 till 17:46 in Hamburg. Whether or not that is enough for you I can't Judge.
10.13 until 17.46 is sufficient, but the trainlag is not worth attempting, I think. So I would stay overnight in Hamburg then
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Old January 20th, 2017, 01:20 PM   #3551
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A day trip NL-Hamburg, just to visit MW, is something I wouldn't suggest even to the most hardcore railfan
It's a pretty dull and slow train ride, 2 trains (more if not departing from Amsterdam), and then there's the risk of spending some time in queue at MW.

When I visited it I came from Berlin (2 hrs) in the morning and then left in the evening with a night train, and I didn't even have time to see the city. I spent a lot of time in there, because it really takes long to fully appreciate it.

Overall you can do it, but be advised it's going to be a hard day. I'd probably stay for the night and pay a visit to the city on the following day, and maybe visit something else on the road (Bremen for example) or the tram/LRT network of Hamburg which is good too.


About trams and metros, only Amsterdam, Rotterdam and The Hague have them and they're all nicely wide networks (plus a single line in Utrecht, not so interesting).

If you're interested in the systems more than in the travel itself, the Rotterdam network is pretty much "standard", wide but nothing so interesting to see (well, like the city itself... ), Amsterdam is nice for trams sneaking in the crowded old city plus the metro ring (combined with the main railway, something unique), while in The Hague there's the most interesting tram network IMO; a mix of modern and old, a stretch shared with the metro, elevated and underground parts with interesting architecture... and a trip to the Scheveningen beach is always worth it, even in October
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Old January 20th, 2017, 05:18 PM   #3552
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I have also on more than 1 occasion missed a connecting train at Osnabruck, it is more of a problem in the Amsterdam direction due to the train being bi-hourly.
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Old January 21st, 2017, 07:22 AM   #3553
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So yeah, I probably won't visit Wunderland on this October's trip. I think enjoying rail scene in Netherlands is sufficient
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I rode an old DD-AR today. I thought they had all been renovated or scrapped?
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Old January 21st, 2017, 03:30 PM   #3555
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So yeah, I probably won't visit Wunderland on this October's trip. I think enjoying rail scene in Netherlands is sufficient
You can go to Miniworld in rotterdam, it's similar but smaller.

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I rode an old DD-AR today. I thought they had all been renovated or scrapped?
A small amound has been reactivated, they are really shitty inside but it's better then standing.
They are activated so the Mat'64 could be scrapped, and until all the FLIRTS are in to service they will remain in service as sprinters.
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There are 18 EMU-3 sets composed as : 3*DD-AR + 1700 loco
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 11:57 AM   #3556
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Finally the connection between Breda and The Hague is restored, though still with transfers for Tilburg and Eindhoven this finally brings an improvement to travel speeds from previous year instead of worsening.

It took even longer, until 9:00 instead of 5:30/6:00 as this morning a kettle wagon had a bad smell near Lage Zwaluwe, which is solved.
http://www.bndestem.nl/regio/oosterh...weer-1.6849452

For Breda departures: http://www.ns.nl/actuele-vertrektijden/avt?station=bd
Note however that the new connection may be more unstable because of too many reasons. The trains are exactly the same as the IC-Direct, of which 5% (!) is cancelled on average.
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The problems and alternative arrangements in Breda you allure to were mostly related to renovation of Rotterdam Blaak and the Willemspoortunnel
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Makes me happy, 20 min less travel time on a 2 hour journey and no 20min wait in Breda!
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 11:44 PM   #3559
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For quite a while there are similar scenes in the Haarlem train repair workshop. There are some trains unmoved for a few months, they seem to be blocked by a wrecked car, container, tyres and so on.

Anybody knows what is going on there?
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Old January 24th, 2017, 12:05 AM   #3560
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I've asked, looks like it's an exercise for the emergency services.
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