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Old January 24th, 2017, 01:00 AM   #3561
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Or an alternative way to hold a train with failed brakes
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Old February 21st, 2017, 04:36 PM   #3562
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From the road thread:

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A € 990 million contract has been awarded to the 'ZuidPlus' consortium to expand A10 through the south side of Amsterdam from 8 to 12 lanes and build a tunnel under the Amsterdam-Zuid railway station.

The ZuidPlus consortium consists of Fluor, Heijmans and Hochtief (U.S., Dutch & German respectively). It is the most expensive road project in Dutch history (based on the price per kilometer).

Construction is planned to start in 2019, and will be progressively completed until 2028. It is a very complex project, the tunnel will be constructed only 5 meters from the nearest office towers.

A render of the future Amsterdam-Zuid railway station, where A10 will be put underground:
I may be wrong, but wasn't the Zuidasdok project meant to add capacity by expansion of the railway station?
Here it seems pretty much the same...


Also, I still don't understand why they'll axe the Amstelveenlijn connection to the metro system.
It looks like a big downgrade, especially now that the N-S line will arrive there with nowhere to continue


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Old February 21st, 2017, 04:43 PM   #3563
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The idea that Zuid was gonna be the new hub of Amsterdam was ditched a long time ago, just after the Fyra flopped.
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Old February 21st, 2017, 04:59 PM   #3564
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Also, I still don't understand why they'll axe the Amstelveenlijn connection to the metro system.
It looks like a big downgrade, especially now that the N-S line will arrive there with nowhere to continue
They are going for the cheap, and the line to Amsltelveen will be converted into tram-standards No more dual-height platforms.

They are aiming for a "seamless" transition between this new train line and the Noordzuidlijn, which I assume it means plenty of escalators to allow passengers to easily change. That will take out some of the time savings of the new line for travelers to points further south.

I'd rather have they convert the line to Amstelveen, which has its own ROW already, into an elevated metro line line they did with the line to Isolatorweg.
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Old February 21st, 2017, 05:13 PM   #3565
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And when I said "downgrade" I meant "I want this message from him "
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Old February 21st, 2017, 05:29 PM   #3566
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With is soil being difficult to excavate, but some ROWs available, Amsterdam would be well server by more elevated rail, in particular monorail, but that is something for the Amsterdam-specific public transportation thread.
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Old February 21st, 2017, 06:53 PM   #3567
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The idea that Zuid was gonna be the new hub of Amsterdam was ditched a long time ago, just after the Fyra flopped.
They're now aiming for it to become the 2nd hub after Central Station.
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Old February 27th, 2017, 06:29 PM   #3568
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There is a new start-up company offering an alternative OV-Chipkaart to tourists: TripKey.

It is not exactly seamless yet, but the principle is great: someone pay a small fee, gets a branded OV-Chipkaart, which is linked to a credit card. Costumer just need to return the card before leaving the country, or do it by mail if they forget. If they don't, a € 15 fee is assessed on top of all actual travel expenses.

There are some kinks to iron out, such as the limited number of places where costumer can get hold of the branded OV-Chipkaart.

NS should be capitalizing on this. It is not something difficult to do. I wonder if NS would rather avoid the business of linking foreign cards to OV-chipkaarts altogether though.

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1. Register online and connect to your credit card
2. You'll receive a personal contract/membership number
3. Pick up your TripKey card at one of our issuing locations
4. Start travelling, but make sure to check-in and check-out
5. Hand in your TripKey card before you leave the Netherlands
6. You'll receive a trip report and we will charge your credit card
Another wish-list item would be for the totems to work with near-field communication smartphones.
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Old February 28th, 2017, 10:39 AM   #3569
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I have a question

When i was in Amsterdam last october i used the marvelous amsterdam biljner station arena
But just after in direction to the cntre you have a whole new railway station for ICE train in construction?
Is it that?
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Old February 28th, 2017, 12:23 PM   #3570
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We don't. They're renovating the metro stations if that's what you mean. Or if you mean Amsterdam Zuid station (pictured above^), it's because they're in different parts of the city with different surroundings. Zuid being more central to many more people and different functions.
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Old February 28th, 2017, 02:57 PM   #3571
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No no! It's a whole new aerian station and i think it is for hign speed train. The structure is great and light. It's just at 20-30 m aside metro/train actual tracks.

I think it is for ICE high speed network which come from germany
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Old February 28th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #3572
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No no! It's a whole new aerian station and i think it is for hign speed train. The structure is great and light. It's just at 20-30 m aside metro/train actual tracks.

I think it is for ICE high speed network which come from germany
There is no new high-speed station under construction anywhere near or around Amsterdam.
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Old February 28th, 2017, 04:27 PM   #3573
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Do you mean Utrechtboog, RAI Station expansion or Sloterdijk Hemboog?
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Old February 28th, 2017, 10:27 PM   #3574
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Ooooh, treasure hunt!

Maybe you saw this?
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Old March 1st, 2017, 01:34 AM   #3575
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Yesss! That's it!
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Yesss! That's it!
The Hemboog is not just after Bijlmer Arena in the direction of Central Station, and is not on the route to Germany.
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It's on the complete other side of the city..
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Old March 1st, 2017, 10:16 AM   #3578
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The Hemboog is not just after Bijlmer Arena in the direction of Central Station, and is not on the route to Germany.
it is for metro or train?
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Old March 1st, 2017, 05:04 PM   #3580
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local trains to be exactly, to eliminate the requirement for a transfer to Schiphol from Zaandam and in today's case Purmerend and Hoorn. Or actually to prevent that every single train has to go via central station which frees capacity. However, it also means that Purmerend lost its direct connection to the central station.
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