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Timon91 · March 16th, 2008, 08:04 PM

Yes, but from Rotterdam to Amsterdam Muiderpoort it is the fastest connection, and this takes about 1h30, so if you've got to go, you've got a problem

UrbanBen · March 16th, 2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timon Kruijk

Yes, but from Rotterdam to Amsterdam Muiderpoort it is the fastest connection, and this takes about 1h30, so if you've got to go, you've got a problem

The sprinter is the fastest connection? I have a hard time with that - wouldn't you do Rotterdam-Amsterdam with a faster connection and then Amsterdam-Amsterdam Muiderpoort?

Timon91 · March 17th, 2008, 06:02 PM

Yes, it is, I looked it up on the site of the ns. At first, I also thought it would be else. It is also one of the recommended connections between Rotterdam and Uitgeest, which takes about 2 hours. This is because the travelling time by intercity between Rotterdam and Amsterdam is 52 mins. With the new HSL coming up (which will take a few more years) the time will be cut to 30 mins. Travelling time from Amsterdam to Breda (which is 2 hours now), will be cut to 1 hour.

Wuppeltje · March 18th, 2008, 04:51 AM

@Timon Kruijk

Rotterdam Centraal - Amsterdam Muiderpoort is a pretty unlogical route. Most people will go the Amsterdam CS first and than transfer (reason more trains between Rotterdam and Amsterdam). If you don't have to be very close to Amsterdam Muiderpoort it is better to take a bus problably to CS first.

Rotterdam Centraal - Uitgeest can be taken by 2 trains in 1:18.

Sprinters are making sometimes long journeys, but virtually nobody has to be in them for 1 hour or more. If you do than you are problably making a very unlikely trip. Many people don't like toilets in trains too. In Zeeland and other areas there are bus trips over 1 hour, which are quite normal. I don't hear people complain in those busses about toilets.

Alexriga · March 19th, 2008, 12:31 AM

So when HSR is scheduled to open?

***ChrisZwolle*** · March 19th, 2008, 12:32 AM

After the summer, according to a newspaper today.

Timon91 · March 19th, 2008, 06:25 PM

But the real HSL trains won't ride yet, isn't it? They will just use normal wagons and a normal loc.

pietje01 · March 20th, 2008, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timon Kruijk

But the real HSL trains won't ride yet, isn't it? They will just use normal wagons and a normal loc.

That's correct.
There are already Thalys HST's running, but due to the lack of ETCS they still have to run on conventional tracks.
ETCS will be added when they are modernised in the near future, but this will be after the services are already started.

The new HST's from AnsaldoBreda are ordered, but are for now nowhere in sight

Wuppeltje · March 21st, 2008, 04:09 AM

Those slow Italians with their AnsaldoBreda.

Timon91 · March 21st, 2008, 05:42 PM

I even thought that when it takes too long for AnsaldoBreda, that there will just be normal French TGV's running on this track....

pietje01 · March 21st, 2008, 08:33 PM

No, that way they wil spoil the travellers and they wouldn't like it when the AnsaldoBreda trains arrive

Timon91 · March 21st, 2008, 11:40 PM

Has anyone heard a rough guess of the date that the AnsaldoBreda trains are finished?
And I have another question: a few weeks ago I drove over the A15 towards Nijmegen, along the Betuwelijn. The fact that I didn't see any trains took my attention. Does anyone know if there are any trains using this track?

***Momo1435*** · March 23rd, 2008, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timon Kruijk

Has anyone heard a rough guess of the date that the AnsaldoBreda trains are finished?
And I have another question: a few weeks ago I drove over the A15 towards Nijmegen, along the Betuwelijn. The fact that I didn't see any trains took my attention. Does anyone know if there are any trains using this track?

No nothing is known about the AnsaldoBreda train, there was a rumor then 1 set would go to a testtrack in Velim (CZ) a while, but afaik that hasn't happened yet.

Yes, the Betuweroute is used, but only by 100 trains a week due to problems with the security systems. But before the summer the frequency should go up to 4 trains an hour.

X38 · March 23rd, 2008, 09:25 PM

There are problems with the High Speed Line between Antwerp (Belgium) - Dutch border. Something with that ETCS, and the NMBS (Belgian railways) want to use the line for commuter trains to Antwerp, because in the area around the HSL live many commuters to the city of Antwerp, most of that people are going by car, and the make the city of Antwerp terrifying to live. There are also buses of "De Lijn", but they are very very slow.
The NMBS has build a train station in "Brecht", called "Noorderkempen, and they want to use it for a shuttle sevice between Antwerp and Breda, stopping in that station.

***Coccodrillo*** · March 27th, 2008, 11:40 AM

The (probably) first photos of the HST: http://www.ferrovie.it/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19549

Timon91 · March 29th, 2008, 06:07 PM

The train looks ok, the colours seem quite familiar to me. The intercity Amsterdam-Brussels has the same colours

X38 · March 30th, 2008, 12:17 AM

I don't like it.

***Ni3lS*** · May 16th, 2008, 11:32 PM

Everyone likes NS. so do I.. It are my initials!

[ My favourite color is yellow btw ]

***Ni3lS*** · May 16th, 2008, 11:40 PM

New Train design

Rotterdam Centraal is closed, They are building a new station.

Impressions:

***Ni3lS*** · May 16th, 2008, 11:43 PM

Utrecht Centraal is the busiest train station in The Netherlands. Most of the trains are coming through Utrecht.

Pics

More information about Dutch Railways will follow.

I will keep this thread up to date

March 19th, 2008, 12:32 AM	#26
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Timon91 Error Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: just outside Germany Posts: 5,780 Likes (Received): 0	Yes, but from Rotterdam to Amsterdam Muiderpoort it is the fastest connection, and this takes about 1h30, so if you've got to go, you've got a problem

March 17th, 2008, 06:02 PM	#23
Timon91 Error Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: just outside Germany Posts: 5,780 Likes (Received): 0	Yes, it is, I looked it up on the site of the ns. At first, I also thought it would be else. It is also one of the recommended connections between Rotterdam and Uitgeest, which takes about 2 hours. This is because the travelling time by intercity between Rotterdam and Amsterdam is 52 mins. With the new HSL coming up (which will take a few more years) the time will be cut to 30 mins. Travelling time from Amsterdam to Breda (which is 2 hours now), will be cut to 1 hour.

March 18th, 2008, 04:51 AM	#24
Wuppeltje Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 5,105 Likes (Received): 53	@Timon Kruijk Rotterdam Centraal - Amsterdam Muiderpoort is a pretty unlogical route. Most people will go the Amsterdam CS first and than transfer (reason more trains between Rotterdam and Amsterdam). If you don't have to be very close to Amsterdam Muiderpoort it is better to take a bus problably to CS first. Rotterdam Centraal - Uitgeest can be taken by 2 trains in 1:18. Sprinters are making sometimes long journeys, but virtually nobody has to be in them for 1 hour or more. If you do than you are problably making a very unlikely trip. Many people don't like toilets in trains too. In Zeeland and other areas there are bus trips over 1 hour, which are quite normal. I don't hear people complain in those busses about toilets.

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Alexriga BANNED Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,054 Likes (Received): 27	So when HSR is scheduled to open?

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Timon91 Error Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: just outside Germany Posts: 5,780 Likes (Received): 0	But the real HSL trains won't ride yet, isn't it? They will just use normal wagons and a normal loc.

March 21st, 2008, 04:09 AM	#29
Wuppeltje Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 5,105 Likes (Received): 53	Those slow Italians with their AnsaldoBreda.

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Timon91 Error Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: just outside Germany Posts: 5,780 Likes (Received): 0	I even thought that when it takes too long for AnsaldoBreda, that there will just be normal French TGV's running on this track....

March 21st, 2008, 08:33 PM	#31
pietje01 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 455 Likes (Received): 1	No, that way they wil spoil the travellers and they wouldn't like it when the AnsaldoBreda trains arrive

March 21st, 2008, 11:40 PM	#32
Timon91 Error Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: just outside Germany Posts: 5,780 Likes (Received): 0	Has anyone heard a rough guess of the date that the AnsaldoBreda trains are finished? And I have another question: a few weeks ago I drove over the A15 towards Nijmegen, along the Betuwelijn. The fact that I didn't see any trains took my attention. Does anyone know if there are any trains using this track?

March 23rd, 2008, 09:25 PM	#34
X38 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Antwerpen Posts: 4,120 Likes (Received): 10	There are problems with the High Speed Line between Antwerp (Belgium) - Dutch border. Something with that ETCS, and the NMBS (Belgian railways) want to use the line for commuter trains to Antwerp, because in the area around the HSL live many commuters to the city of Antwerp, most of that people are going by car, and the make the city of Antwerp terrifying to live. There are also buses of "De Lijn", but they are very very slow. The NMBS has build a train station in "Brecht", called "Noorderkempen, and they want to use it for a shuttle sevice between Antwerp and Breda, stopping in that station.

March 30th, 2008, 12:17 AM	#37
X38 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Antwerpen Posts: 4,120 Likes (Received): 10	I don't like it.

May 16th, 2008, 11:43 PM	#40
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