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Old May 27th, 2014, 05:49 PM   #1481
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I just read on another forum that all stations will have at least one machine that accepts credit cards by the end of the year - is that right?
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Old May 28th, 2014, 11:57 AM   #1482
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All stations? Even the tiny countryside ones? That seems unlikely.
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Old May 28th, 2014, 12:02 PM   #1483
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All stations have ticket machines, small stations won't be gated off though!
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Old May 28th, 2014, 08:12 PM   #1484
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Is it just a software update to allow ticket machines to accept credit cards?
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Old May 28th, 2014, 08:26 PM   #1485
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I think the whole of the Netherlands needs a software update in order to become efficient.
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Old May 28th, 2014, 08:33 PM   #1486
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I think you're confused the Netherlands with Belgium.
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Old May 28th, 2014, 09:02 PM   #1487
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No, Belgium needs whole new software.
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Old May 28th, 2014, 09:07 PM   #1488
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The UK needs new hardware? :S
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Old May 28th, 2014, 09:47 PM   #1489
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No direct train connection in between Roosendaal and Antwerpen this morning. I had to wait extra hour to pick up someone from train... Stormy weather demolished something on Dutch network?
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Old May 29th, 2014, 07:38 AM   #1490
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All stations? Even the tiny countryside ones? That seems unlikely.
Why not?

In Switzerland all stations have ticket machines that accept Swiss Francs, Euros, both in bills and coins, and that accept basically all debit and credit cards, and even vouchers...
Heck, even many bus stops have such machines.

So why would having a sophisticated, useful machine at every station be so exceptional?
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Old May 29th, 2014, 02:38 PM   #1491
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Why not?

In Switzerland all stations have ticket machines that accept Swiss Francs, Euros, both in bills and coins, and that accept basically all debit and credit cards, and even vouchers...
Heck, even many bus stops have such machines.

So why would having a sophisticated, useful machine at every station be so exceptional?
I think they have concerns about vandalism on machines holding cash in minor unstaffed stations.
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Old May 29th, 2014, 10:23 PM   #1492
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Free weekend travel pass

I think NS decided do double down on its strategy to lure some "choice riders".

Now, until 31/12/2014 you can buy a 12-month pass for free weekend travel for €29 (2nd class) or €45 (1st classe), which are €20 less than "normal" prices. They have had this discounts for months, but prices were supposed to go back to "normal" levels tomorrow.

This pass (weekend vrij) allows unlimited travel from Friday 18.30 till Monday 6.00.
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Old May 30th, 2014, 12:52 AM   #1493
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I've put the most commonly bought passes in a table to give an overview of which discount applies when:

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Old May 30th, 2014, 01:17 AM   #1494
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Nice table.

These are the prices (2nd | 1st class, in €, per year)

Dal Voordel: 50 | 50
Altijd Voordel: 240 | 240
Weekend Vrij: 348 | 540
Dal Vrij: 1188 | 2064
Altidj Vrij: 3816 | 6420
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Old May 30th, 2014, 01:21 AM   #1495
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If you happen to have an old Voordeelurenabonnement you also get 40% discount during the evening peak (16:00 - 18:30). The Voordeelurenabonnement is not sold anymore, but for now current contracts are still renewed each year. I expect NS to cancel those contracts a few years from now, as most customers will be on the newer subscriptions and passes by then.
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Old May 30th, 2014, 02:31 AM   #1496
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I think the Dal Vrij will make a lot of success over time, with people who can forego starting travel on peak time (unless they changed regulations, what is counted is the check-in time, so if you start travelling 6.20, you get a discount even if you finish your trip 8.00).
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Old May 30th, 2014, 03:48 AM   #1497
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I have a Dal Vrij pass, and that is what I use it for. It's much cheaper than a Trajectabonnement (route pass). Luckily my employer doesn't mind me arriving at 10.15... I leave later, too.
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Old May 30th, 2014, 04:56 PM   #1498
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From Rail Journal:

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http://www.railjournal.com/index.php...ml?channel=542

NS Hispeed to become NS International
Friday, May 30, 2014

NETHERLANDS Railways (NS) is to rebrand its NS Hispeed operations NS International from June 15 as the operator seeks to restore the image of its high-speed operations following the Fyra crisis.

Domestic services from Amsterdam Central to Rotterdam and Breda via HSL South have already been rebranded from Fyra to Intercity Direct and will operate as NS services from June 15, when tickets for these trains will be made available via the main NS website.

A new NS International website will also sell tickets for these trains, as well as Amsterdam – Berlin and The Hague – Brussels services
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 08:32 PM   #1499
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@radamfi: Your situtaion is peculiar. The only reason I can think of is that Maestro UK works on a different system to Maestro Europe (especially regarding its pricing model). Maestro UK is the succesor of Switch, whilst Maestro Europe is MasterCard Europe's own thing. And just to illustrate this, I cannot use my Dutch or Belgian Maestro card in the UK with ToL (Transport with London) since they only accept Maestro UK cards. Your bank should have informed you about this if you told them you plan on using it in Europe. The whole pin-resetting situation is strange though; shouldn't be happening.

How do I know all of this? I work in the payment systems industry
According to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch_(debit_card)

http://www.streamline.com/assets/Ass...newsletter.pdf

the UK Maestro was merged with the international Maestro in 2011, so there is now no separate Maestro for the UK, which makes the refusal of my card more confusing. Until then, UK retailers had to have their machines set up for both 'UK Maestro' and 'international Maestro'. Some retailers only set it up for 'UK Maestro' so foreign Maestro cards wouldn't work. Presumably, therefore, foreign Maestro cards should now work in the UK.

I phoned up the bank and, unsurprisingly, they didn't think there should be any problem using my Maestro card in the Netherlands.
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Most service centers for banking, cell phone and the likes don't know much if it goes beyond the common stuff or if it is not on any script they are trained for. It is quite frustrating at times.
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