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Old April 16th, 2009, 03:17 AM   #141
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The yellow color is in use since the middle sixties with the introduction of Mat '64 (Plan V). The old color was green: WIKI.

In 1970, the dutch railways introduce Spoorslag 70,, a complete renewal of the trainnetwork, and introduce Intercity-services. These trains got the new blue-yellow colors: PIC (these trains were replaced by the IRM-double deckers and ICM-4 Koplopers between the middle 80-s and middle 90-s)

About the sound of the VIRM-double deckers: In the older trains from middle 90-s this WAS a typical sound (now fixed): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S4YDCe11O8
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Old April 16th, 2009, 11:07 AM   #142
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The yellow color is in use since the middle sixties with the introduction of Mat '64 (Plan V). The old color was green: WIKI.
Green is fantastic.

What we should do is give each major connection a different color, like a subway system. The Intercity Amsterdam-Vlissingen could be red, the Intercity Rotterdam-Groningen could be blue. That sort of thing. I would like that!

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That's the one alright, that Satanic wail.
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Old April 17th, 2009, 06:40 PM   #143
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The yellow color is in use since the middle sixties with the introduction of Mat '64 (Plan V). The old color was green: WIKI.
To be more precise, the previous colors before the yellow was introduced in 1968:

EMUs: green
DMUs: red
coaches and locomotives: dark blue
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Old April 21st, 2009, 10:10 PM   #144
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Two pics of CTA signs.

At Amsterdam Central Station

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At Utrecht Central Station

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Old April 21st, 2009, 11:35 PM   #145
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You can take the train to Moscow from the Netherlands?

Or is that a different city listed on those signs?

Regardless, there should be a transcontinental high speed line that connects Amsterdam and Moscow via Berlin, Warsaw, and Minsk.
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Old April 22nd, 2009, 10:41 AM   #146
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You can take the train to Moscow from the Netherlands?
Yes. The Interliner Amsterdam-Moscow. They might have renamed it to Intercity or something, they like to change the name every once in a while.

EDIT: just googled it, it's the EuroNightTrain now
http://www.treinreiziger.nl/internat...%20(EuroNight)

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Regardless, there should be a transcontinental high speed line that connects Amsterdam and Moscow via Berlin, Warsaw, and Minsk.
Under construction
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Old April 22nd, 2009, 03:59 PM   #147
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You can take the train to Moscow from the Netherlands?
It runs once a day and it takes 40 hours to get there. The train I was in consists of 15 wagons, of which 5 head to Prague (I went to Prague), 4 to Warsw, 4 to Copenhagen, one to Minsk and one to Moscow. Prague only takes 15 hours though
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Old April 24th, 2009, 12:37 PM   #148
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Moskwa is really old spelling, right? I thought it would be either "Moscow, Moskou or Moskva".
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Old April 24th, 2009, 02:34 PM   #149
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You think this:

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looks "fatter" than this?

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Not quite that ...


I think that he means that THIS:





Looks fatter than THIS:



And indeed the apearance of the ICE3 seems rather fat when compared to the boxy TGV's.
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Moskwa is really old spelling, right? I thought it would be either "Moscow, Moskou or Moskva".
Probably, but I think they chose to do "Moskwa" because AFAIK that's the way it's pronounced.
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Old April 24th, 2009, 08:35 PM   #151
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it is pronounced like Moskwa if you read it in German, I do not know about Dutch...
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AFAIK the 'w' in Russian is pronounced as a 'v'. Like you say "vladivostok", but "wladiwostok" is written.
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The "w" is the German way to write the Cyrillic B (в), the English way (and also the Dutch way) is V. So it's indeed a bit strange that they chose to go with the w, especially since in German it's written as Moskau.

Maybe they went for the Polish way to write it, then it's 100% right.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 04:30 PM   #154
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Work is progessing well on the 50km 200km/h €1b Hanzelijn between Zwolle and Lelystad. Some updates:


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IJsselspoorbrug Zwolle
A new, higher, bridge will replace the current one from 1864, removing one of the main obstacles for shipping on the IJssel:

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Unearthing the inevitable WWII left-overs near the new bridge last autumn:

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Construction of Kampen Zuid started 75 years after the closure of the last station with that name back in 1934:

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Visitors had the oppurtunity to walk through the tubes of the 790m Drontermeertunnel yesterday:

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Dronten:

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Expansion to 4 platforms underway in Lelystad:

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Nice update. I know that guy from hanzelijn-hattem.nl, he has been in newspapers recently.
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Sweet, more high speed rail for the Netherlands.

So will this line allow people from Zwolle to get to Amsterdam via rail?
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Is the rail line high speed, or just regular rail?

I find it amusing when I see/hear Dutch people bitching about their railways. I'd kill for that level of infrastructure...
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Sweet, more high speed rail for the Netherlands.
It's regular rail I think

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So will this line allow people from Zwolle to get to Amsterdam via rail?
They already can, but this line will shorten their journey times. Here's a map of the current Dutch railway network:

http://www.johnhuizer.nl/nskaart.gif

This line is being constructed between "Lelystad Centrum" and "Kampen" (to the Northeast of Amsterdam).

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I find it amusing when I see/hear Dutch people bitching about their railways. I'd kill for that level of infrastructure...
Bear in mind we're Europe's most densely populated nation (not counting microstates like Monaco) but we don't have the continent's best railway network. Not even close. So there's some bitching to be done still
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So will this line allow people from Zwolle to get to Amsterdam via rail?
It's already possible via Amersfoort, but the new line will relieve the Zwolle - Amersfoort line, and shorten travel times to Amsterdam. It was a missing link in the Dutch railway net. The area the new line runs through is mostly empty, but the IJssel river and the Lake Dronten crossings (bridge and tunnel respectively) require some expensive structures, so the line is still relatively expensive.
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I find it amusing when I see/hear Dutch people bitching about their railways. I'd kill for that level of infrastructure...
The network is pretty good, and frequencies are high, but the network is often loaded to capacity due to aged safety systems, and problems at important stations can have effect throughout a lot of the network for most of the day. They should've 4-tracked more railway lines, but chose presitiguous megaprojects instead (Betuweroute, HSL-South).
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