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Old January 25th, 2008, 01:28 AM   #41
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I mean its not the Walls i have a problem with...its the little paper explosion at the top, what is all that. Its like a gift bag under your christmas tree.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 02:42 PM   #42
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Although your cube looks alrite, I think its a bit boring looking, theres no colour, its just drab. This is why I like our cube so much! Its interesting.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 02:48 PM   #43
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The reason I gave for you being rude was because you suggested it was a joke project (which is highly condescending) and because you said it made you want to puke, which is a tad extreme (has a building ever really made you puke?). But you guys across the pond do tend to be a bit more... flamboyant with your critisisms.

I had no problem with you reacting to the comments made towards those against it. I personally think its great and I reckon you might be pleasently surprised once its completed.
Get a grip.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 06:08 PM   #44
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Who asked you.

Ignorant fools just wind me up, tis all.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 08:31 PM   #45
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Whats with the roof?
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Old January 26th, 2008, 06:32 AM   #46
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Horrible. When was the last time being different just for the sake of being different was a good thing?
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Old January 26th, 2008, 01:20 PM   #47
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Horrible. When was the last time being different just for the sake of being different was a good thing?
When the International style went out about 30 years ago. Do try to keep up.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 03:03 PM   #48
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When the International style went out about 30 years ago. Do try to keep up.
First [email protected] history having anything to do with whether or not a building looks good. Like an art critic telling someone if a painting is beautiful or not, like a food critic telling someone if a dish the person has already eaten is good, architecture critics are pointless. Secondly, I was being facetious anyway. Different simple for the sake of different is retarded. I didn't think that needed an explanation- I thought it was obvious.

Do try to keep up.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 06:58 PM   #49
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When did a building 'being different' have anything to do with it being a good or bad?
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Old January 26th, 2008, 07:19 PM   #50
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I never said it did, I said being different FOR THE SAKE OF BEING DIFFERENT is.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 07:28 PM   #51
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So you're saying the rational behind as a design, not the actual design itself is important in the subjective quality of a building?
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Old January 26th, 2008, 08:13 PM   #52
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Poor you for not having a city that is willing to try something different!
(So this a good project because it's different?)

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it could have been "elegant" with curves etc but how many supposedly iconic buildings try that and fail to become recognised because its such a common intention nowadays? Its hard to be consistently original
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OMG how can you people be saying this, this is probaly one of the most iconic structures ever built in the United Kingdom since Swiss re
(Apparently, it's more important to be a building that's instantly recognizable, through it's "difference", in a good or bad way, than it is to just be a nice looking building?)

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This is an innovative and exciting design.
(And? That doesn't mean it's actually an attractive building. I could sew a dick on my forehead and it'd be innovative and exciting, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna get girls knocking down my door.)

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Your city got any better interesting proposals?
(Note: He didn't say 'better looking'. Who cares about if it looks good- what's important is that it's interesting and new and different!)

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Although your cube looks alrite, I think its a bit boring looking, theres no colour, its just drab. This is why I like our cube so much! Its interesting.
(Again, doesn't matter if it's actually attractive, so long as it's 'interesting!)

What I'm saying, Bachy Soletanche, is when those are the best things you can say about a building, that means you're being different not for any reason but to be different. The result is an ugly ass box. Congratulations. As I said being different just so you can be different and innovating, instead of doing it for an actual reason, is not good policy. Not in buildings, not in life. I could decide to walk on my hands, but if my only argument for it is "It's new! It's innovative!" then I would deserve to be ridiculed just like this cube.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 08:44 PM   #53
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Mo, this is a horrible building because its HORRIBLE!
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:13 PM   #54
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I've heard a theory that the seeking of the new, the novel and unexplored is a western mind-set, and (traditional) Eastern thinking was the fine tuning of tradition to perfection.

or to put it another way, I prefer to hear music I've never heard before, rather than listening to the same thing over and over. not all the time of course, but to quote King Tubby, Forward Always, Backward Never.

What that has to do with The Cube I dunno, but in many ways I'd prefer to look at an experimental truly one off building, than a bland, formulaic identikit, anywhere in the world, white bread sort of thing.

But not necessary wanting to live in one thought, as of course, some experiments are more successful than others.

As to the Cube, I dunno, I remain unmoved by the renders



Not because I think it looks bad, it's just I can't vision it.

I find it odd that people that frequent an Architecture site would be at least positive about, if not the execution, the idea of new concepts. Still, what ya going to do?
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:26 PM   #55
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Yep I agree, like swiss re and selfridges I could not really picture what this building will look like until its complete. However I truley think it will look fantastic, just got a feeling.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 01:34 AM   #56
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They are trying too much to look original .Let's see it when it's built.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 04:06 PM   #57
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Yet another example of a building many people will lambast, and when it is built people will change their minds. It will become part of the fabric of a future exciting Birmingham. I wonder what people think of Selfridges also?
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Old January 27th, 2008, 09:20 PM   #58
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Hmmmm, I will make a thread on it.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 11:08 PM   #59
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Who asked you.

Ignorant fools just wind me up, tis all.
now your insulting me for having different taste? Thats childish.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 01:41 PM   #60
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Sorry, you misunderstood where I was coming from. I dont have a problem with you disliking this building. I just thought your comments (and a few other peoples) were a bit childish, instead of just explaining why you dont like it in a sensible way. E.g "I dont like the cladding, it looks messy, or the roof seems totally unrelated to the rest of the building". Instead of "eww this makes me wanna puke, lets blast this into out of space and forget it ever happened" etc.
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