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Old August 25th, 2012, 03:00 AM   #5481
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Old August 25th, 2012, 12:19 PM   #5482
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Because Ron hasn't posted a new pic, I'll have a new one.

Where is this rather unusual junction: designed as a controlled access, it's just an at-grade crossing.

Hint: It's somewhere between the Atlantic Ocean and Moscow.
The main road is a European E-route.


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Old August 25th, 2012, 12:36 PM   #5483
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Funny, local mapping indicates it as grade-separated
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Old August 25th, 2012, 02:04 PM   #5484
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Some other hints.

If history had developed otherwise, the mainroad could have been numbered B1n
(but it isn't) ;-)

The E-roadnumber has a sealink nearby, however that is quite an idiot route since the opening of a new borderstation in december 2010.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 02:56 PM   #5485
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Some other hints.

If history had developed otherwise, the mainroad could have been numbered B1n
(but it isn't) ;-)

The E-roadnumber has a sealink nearby, however that is quite an idiot route since the opening of a new borderstation in december 2010.
Since we're looking at something rather odd and old-fashioned-looking with a nearby sealink between Moscow and the Atlantic where a new border station has opened recently, I'd say in or around Kaliningrad. Possibly Lithuania, the E77, perhaps?
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Old August 25th, 2012, 02:59 PM   #5486
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You're close. It won't be that difficult now to point it on GMaps...
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Old August 25th, 2012, 06:34 PM   #5487
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To continue the "what if things went the other way":
It's on the bypass of a city east of Königsberg The task is which one...


EDIT: It has been upgraded recently and there really is a grade-separated junction according to maps.yandex.ru satellite imagery...
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Old August 25th, 2012, 07:25 PM   #5488
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Bingo!

E28 (A229) & P512 in Gvardeysk, Russian enclave of Kaliningrad. I believe it's the location marked as Tapiau in the (old) map.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 07:27 PM   #5489
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i think i found it. it's at +54° 40' 20.88", +21° 4' 49.52" route P512 and A229 near the town of Gvardeysk or Tapiau.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 07:34 PM   #5490
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Bingo!

E28 (A229) & P512 in Gvardeysk, Russian enclave of Kaliningrad. I believe it's the location marked as Tapiau in the (old) map.
Oh yeah your right! It's just north of Gvardeysk. So...your next I guess!
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Old August 25th, 2012, 09:08 PM   #5491
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Yes, it is A229xP512 north of Gvardeysk.

It is part of the E77, a route that should be realigned via the old RAB Elbing-Königsberg.
The old expressway Kaliningrad - Polish border (P516) and the Polish expressway Elblag - Russian border (S22) form the most logical route.

The A229 Kaliningrad - Kybartai once was part of the Reichsstraße 1 (Aachen - Berlin - Königsberg - Eydtkulmen).
In the BRD the old Reichsstraßen today are Bundesstraßen, and new realignments often get the suffix n. So that's why I gave the hint on the B1n...
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Old August 25th, 2012, 09:35 PM   #5492
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Bingo!

E28 (A229) & P512 in Gvardeysk, Russian enclave of Kaliningrad. I believe it's the location marked as Tapiau in the (old) map.
damn! i'm 2 minute late
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Old August 26th, 2012, 07:27 PM   #5493
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Your turn CNGL! Your turn might have expired though...
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Old August 26th, 2012, 08:56 PM   #5494
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i think i found it. it's at +54° 40' 20.88", +21° 4' 49.52" route P512 and A229 near the town of Gvardeysk or Tapiau.
You were too late .

Anyway, someone else can post. It is both E28 and E77. But they should realign both from Gdansk and Elblag via S22 to Kaliningrad.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 01:40 AM   #5495
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An easy one… I guess…

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Old August 27th, 2012, 02:11 AM   #5496
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Espana,near Portuguese border
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Old August 27th, 2012, 10:50 AM   #5497
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Signals are absolutely from Spain but seems to be far away from Portugal.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 10:58 AM   #5498
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The give way signs indicate a roundabout or traffic lights behind the viewer. Also; there are no shoulders, so it's likely not an autovía.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #5499
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The give way signs indicate a roundabout or traffic lights behind the viewer. Also; there are no shoulders, so it's likely not an autovía.
In fact it's the end part of this Expressway or Motorway, more like Expressway.

Hint: 100km/h Speed limit.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 11:51 AM   #5500
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The give way signs indicate a roundabout or traffic lights behind the viewer. Also; there are no shoulders, so it's likely not an autovía.


It can be the end of any motorway in fact.

When the AP-68 finished in Zaragoza centre (here, in the centre of the image. It was the "street" comming from East), it was able to drive 120 until last kilometre where they started advicing to reduce speed. They got three lanes instead of two but with no shoulder and the motorway finished in the km. 299,8 with a traffic light in the centre of Zaragoza.

About ten years ago, from this point to Bilbao you could go out from the city driving 120 and with only one cross under the orbital motorway. Next exit was 25 km. ahead.




So... the begining of a highway or similar should be considered.
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